jbg Posted July 23, 2016 Report Posted July 23, 2016 I can't wait until people who applaud Cruz's integrity try to make it OK when Sanders (who has been openly shafted by the media and DNC) stumps for Hillary. I'll have no problem given that I'm a left-wing extremist myself. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Hal 9000 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Posted July 23, 2016 I'll have no problem given that I'm a left-wing extremist myself. So, the issue is not really about Cruz's integrity, it's more about cheering on somebody to slag Trump. Fair enough, Trump seems to thrive on people attacking him only to see them die on their sword. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Big Guy Posted July 23, 2016 Report Posted July 23, 2016 I suggest that when some politicians are asked to place the following into a prioritized list: Family, Country, Integrity, Party, Ambition, Religion That the order may differ from the rest of us. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Hal 9000 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Posted July 23, 2016 I suggest that when some politicians are asked to place the following into a prioritized list: Family, Country, Integrity, Party, Ambition, Religion That the order may differ from the rest of us. If Cruz has different priorities - good on him. He did right by his family if that's what we want to believe, if his priority is the next election, the so be it. The fact is; he did kill and chance of political advancement with that speech. Trump is a master of caudal luring - and as far as i'm concerned, Cruz took the bait. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Queenmandy85 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Posted July 23, 2016 Disclaimer: I am not comparing political views. That being said, Trump reminds me of Benito Mussolini in appearance. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Big Guy Posted July 23, 2016 Report Posted July 23, 2016 .... The fact is; he did kill and chance of political advancement with that speech. If you are referring to political advancement in the Trump Republican Party then I agree with you. But if Trump is defeated and the moderates (moderate compared to Trump) take back the party then Cruz will be hailed. I have no use for Cruz but I think he just cemented a bright future with the post-Trump Republican Party. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Hal 9000 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Posted July 23, 2016 Disclaimer: I am not comparing political views. That being said, Trump reminds me of Benito Mussolini in appearance. Yeah, that was said on the TV last night, i'm not surprised to hear in now. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Derek 2.0 Posted July 23, 2016 Report Posted July 23, 2016 Trump is a master of caudal luring - and as far as i'm concerned, Cruz took the bait. I certainly agree.......as noted, the Trump team vetted Cruz's speech beforehand then had the New York delegation start booing as planned, followed by Trump's "grand entrance" during the speech and RNC security escorting out Cruz's wife during the speech.........Trump torpedoed Cruz. And Cruz was hoisted by his own petard, by not only team Trump, but by the RNC. Quote
Argus Posted July 23, 2016 Report Posted July 23, 2016 The time to get tough was during the campaign. Instead, Cruz initially let others do the hard lifting against Trump while he drafted along in his slipstream. He was the most talented candidate in the field but I think there will be even less of a market next time round for what he is selling. Cruz sucked up to Trump the way Christie is doing now, in hopes of having his support when Trump eventually bowed out. It was only when the field narrowed and it became obvious Trump was staying that he finally began to criticize him. As for being the most talented - at what? At being a sleazy, lying huckster and weasel? The only halfway sane and moderate guy in the race was Bush. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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