Wither Europe

[eyeball]

I'm not telling you anything other than what has been said about the migrant invaders.

What you call migrant invaders are also climate and environmental refugees and there's been lots said about them, here's 64,500 pages of scholarly articles on the topic. Interestingly when you search migrant invaders there appear to be zero scholarly articles on the topic. Not a single one in fact.

Nobody on the planet is prepared for what's happening - the effort to deny climate change has wildly succeeded and left us as ill-prepared as we could possibly be for the impact on human beings. By the time we're prepared to acknowledge the need to get serious it'll be far far too late. It's clearly already too late

All the geopolitical eight-balls lined up in front of us will be exacerbated by and eventually overwhelmed by the inexorably growing problems stemming from the climate change that's picking up steam now.

And again, you have not seen anything yet and further to that there is nothing will prepare you in time either.

[eyeball]

"it's going to take a wall of warships crewed by inhumane beings."

Would you prefer warships were manned by people without a spine?

Ah, so you figure it will take courage to run over and blow boats full of men women and children out of the water? I figure it will take a psychopath myself.

[bush_cheney2004]

And again, you have not seen anything yet and further to that there is nothing will prepare you in time either.

Not so scary...there were migrant "invaders" long before the climate change bogey man was invented.

The world will continue to party like it's 1999.

[G Huxley]

Ah, so you figure it will take courage to run over and blow boats full of men women and children out of the water? I figure it will take a psychopath myself.

I didn't say they should blow them out of the water. Rather they should return them to whence they came.

Build yourself a wall of ships! Said the Oracle.

Edited May 11, 2016 by G Huxley

[marcus]

The migrant invasion of Europe has nothing to do with climate change

I'm wondering if you are one of those who has denied climate change.

I'm seeing a transition and shift with those types of people. They're going from "there is no climate change" to "climate change is not caused by humans".

Oh and climate change has a huge effect on the economy.

[Argus]

I didn't say they should blow them out of the water. Rather they should return them to whence they came.

Build yourself a wall of ships! Said the Oracle.

I don't see the problem with having a large fleet of smaller patrol boats midway between Europe and the 'refugee' source countries, turning back would-be immigrants. And they better have that fleet soon. Islamist Turkey is already making noises that if they don't get their way they will be sending millions of Syrians to Europe.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-11/erdogan-adviser-threatens-refugee-surge-if-eu-visa-deal-fails

[eyeball]

Would someone ask Argus what happens if they refuse to turn back?

[scribblet]

Would someone ask Argus what happens if they refuse to turn back?

Macedonia has used tear gas and rubber bullets. My guess is if it continues they won't be using rubber bullets,

[Argus]

Macedonia has used tear gas and rubber bullets. My guess is if it continues they won't be using rubber bullets,

They're in shitty little boats. You stick a hook into one and tow it back. What are they going to do, jump out?

[scribblet]

They're in shitty little boats. You stick a hook into one and tow it back. What are they going to do, jump out?

More than 800 have just arrived in Italy, on only 2 boats, http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/669834/Migrant-crisis-continues-hundreds-refugees-just-two-boats-land-Italy-in-one-day

[Hudson Jones]

More than 800 have just arrived in Italy, on only 2 boats, http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/669834/Migrant-crisis-continues-hundreds-refugees-just-two-boats-land-Italy-in-one-day

I love how threatened you feel about them foreigners.

[Argus]

More than 800 have just arrived in Italy, on only 2 boats, http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/669834/Migrant-crisis-continues-hundreds-refugees-just-two-boats-land-Italy-in-one-day

Just meet them closer to Turkish waters and turn them around.

[Argus]

I love how threatened you feel about them foreigners.

Some day you might pay taxes, and then you'll understand.

[Hudson Jones]

Some day you might pay taxes, and then you'll understand.

I would say some day you might find empathy and not mind part of your taxes going those who are in need, but then, why should we pretend that's a possibility?

You must get out, right? Is it weird for you to deal with non-white people? Do your palms sweat? Ever blurt out some of the bigoted comments you make on the forums towards them foreigners?

[Argus]

I would say some day you might find empathy and not mind part of your taxes going those who are in need, but then, why should we pretend that's a possibility?

My empathy tends to be more narrow focused, and don't go patting yourself on the back too much. After all, it's not your money you're volunteering to give away.

You must get out, right? Is it weird for you to deal with non-white people? Do your palms sweat? Ever blurt out some of the bigoted comments you make on the forums towards them foreigners?

I don't make bigoted comments on-line, and unlike yourself, my judgement of others is not based on their skin colour.

[Hudson Jones]

I don't make bigoted comments on-line, and unlike yourself, my judgement of others is not based on their skin colour.

We have many differences. For example:

You call me an anti-semite and fail to produce any examples where an anti-semite comment has been made, while I call you a bigot and produce comments where you fully expose yourself as a bigot, like this:

No, we owe our children to preserve what we made for them, not to bury it in a mass of illiterate foreign goat herders who have no job skills, will never pay any taxes

Go ahead, defend that comment like a bigot would.

[Argus]

We have many differences. For example:

You call me an anti-semite and fail to produce any examples where an anti-semite comment has been made, while I call you a bigot and produce comments where you fully expose yourself as a bigot, like this:

Oh you do an excellent job using words like "zionist" and pretending you are outraged by human rights abuses (but only in Israel), but we both know what you are.

No, we owe our children to preserve what we made for them, not to bury it in a mass of illiterate foreign goat herders who have no job skills, will never pay any taxes[/b][/indent]

Go ahead, defend that comment like a bigot would.

I don't need to defend it like a bigot would. You need to demonstrate in what way it is bigoted. I don't see it, personally. Who is it bigoted against? Anyone in particular?

Is the word 'foreign' the one that bothers you? What about 'goat herder'? Which term do you regard as bigoted? And against whom?

And by the way, I'd like a cite where I used that sentence. It doesn't sound like me. Yes, I've used the phrase "goat herder" and certainly "illiterate' but I suspect you made up that quote.

Edited May 13, 2016 by Argus

[jacee]

Oh you do an excellent job using words like "zionist" and pretending you are outraged by human rights abuses (but only in Israel), but we both know what you are.

I don't need to defend it like a bigot would. You need to demonstrate in what way it is bigoted. I don't see it, personally. Who is it bigoted against? Anyone in particular?

Is the word 'foreign' the one that bothers you? What about 'goat herder'? Which term do you regard as bigoted? And against whom?

And by the way, I'd like a cite where I used that sentence. It doesn't sound like me. Yes, I've used the phrase "goat herder" and certainly "illiterate' but I suspect you made up that quote.

I suspect you 'don't recall' some of your more outrageously bigoted posts, Argus.

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Edited May 13, 2016 by jacee

[Argus]

I suspect you 'don't recall' some of your more outrageously bigoted posts, Argus.

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I asked him for a cite. I'll ask the same of you.

[scribblet]

I love how threatened you feel about them foreigners.

I`m not `threatened by foreigners` so please don`t impute feelings or attitudes onto me.

Germany has voted to block N. African assylum claims

http://www.thelocal.de/20160513/german-mps-vote-to-block-north-african-asylum-claims

[jacee]

I asked him for a cite. I'll ask the same of you.

Check your own posts.

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[Wanderer]

I love how threatened you feel about them foreigners.

I think the sentiment may have something with the fact as a lifelong tax payer in a country, sometimes one would hesitant to share the resources with those who did not pay the taxes (in this case migrants) in the first place. Additionally, some people may not necessarily have good experience with the guest workers who had been in one's country. Taking these into consideration, I would say quite a few people have doubts about foreigners not necessarily because of innate racial/ethnic prejudice, but because of economic reason and personal experience with guest workers who temporarily stay in their place.

[Hudson Jones]

Oh you do an excellent job using words like "zionist" and pretending you are outraged by human rights abuses (but only in Israel), but we both know what you are.

I know what I am and you keep failing to produce any examples of who you think I am. So either show examples, or I will report you for defamation.

I don't need to defend it like a bigot would. You need to demonstrate in what way it is bigoted. I don't see it, personally. Who is it bigoted against? Anyone in particular?

Is the word 'foreign' the one that bothers you? What about 'goat herder'? Which term do you regard as bigoted? And against whom?

And by the way, I'd like a cite where I used that sentence. It doesn't sound like me. Yes, I've used the phrase "goat herder" and certainly "illiterate' but I suspect you made up that quote.

we owe our children to preserve what we made for them, not to bury it in a mass of illiterate foreign goat herders who have no job skills, will never pay any taxes

The above comment is bigoted. If you fail to see how stereotyping a group of people and calling them "mass of illiterate foreign goat herders with no job skills and will never pay taxes" is not bigoted, then both your parents and our school system have failed you (or you have failed them).

Here is the link to your post, bigot:

No, we owe our children to preserve what we made for them, not to bury it in a mass of illiterate foreign goat herders who have no job skills, will never pay any taxes, and will sipmly fill up the Muslim ghetoes in France and England while venturing out for occasional rioting and raping.

Edited May 16, 2016 by Hudson Jones

[Argus]

Check your own posts.

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So as usual you got nothing but hot air.

[Argus]

we owe our children to preserve what we made for them, not to bury it in a mass of illiterate foreign goat herders who have no job skills, will never pay any taxes

The above comment is bigoted.

Ah, I see now I was paraphrasing the comment before me. So what was bigoted about it? I was referring to the Syrian refugees, who, as newspaper articles have attested, are mostly rural desert dwellers with no job skills who don't understand a word of English. Is it the accuracy of the statement which offends you?

Here is the link to your post, bigot:

I might be insulted by that if I had even the slightest respect for anything you have to say, or of you as a person. Happily, I have none whatsoever!

Edited May 16, 2016 by Argus