Big Guy Posted April 15, 2016 Report Posted April 15, 2016 We either get serious about our military as an independent force prepared to facilitate an independent foreign policy or we allow the USA to spend its own blood and treasure to include defending Canada when there is retaliation towards all of North America for American interests and American "expeditions". If we are serious, then quadruple our military spending, embrace nuclear capability and redirect future spending towards. If not, then drop plans for any new ships, planes or expanding our ground forces and concentrate future spending on domestic issues. We either become independent or we will always be just another arm of the American military, forced to use whatever capabilities we have at the time to satisfy American foreign policy. The less we have then the less we will be expected to spend in blood and treasure in defending American foreign policy. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
eyeball Posted April 15, 2016 Report Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) The problem is all the moral and ideological pap we're fed about pulling weight and appearing relevant on the global catwalk. This is the real issue for most Canadians and given it's such a pressing matter of national interest we should have a nationalized arms manufacturing industry that turns profits from exports towards funding for our defence. Now it's entirely possible this socialistic approach will frighten the eagles so a private sector market-based approach might be better which is why I keep suggesting using war bonds instead of taxpayer's dollars. I realize the eagles use the commie approach to their arms industry but do as we say not as we do seems to rule so... I also have to insist we ensure ALL taxes that are due and payable (with penalties and interest) have been collected before directing another taxpayer's dime on the military. Edited April 15, 2016 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Posted April 15, 2016 The problem is all the moral and ideological pap we're fed about pulling weight and appearing relevant on the global catwalk. This is the real issue for most Canadians and given it's such a pressing matter of national interest we should have a nationalized arms manufacturing industry that turns profits from exports towards funding for our defence. Good plan....just keep on making more eggs for those eagles. Tell the blue herons that it is necessary to "protect blue heron rights" and a "responsibility to protect blue herons". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted April 15, 2016 Report Posted April 15, 2016 Good plan....just keep on making more eggs for those eagles. Tell the blue herons that it is necessary to "protect blue heron rights" and a "responsibility to protect blue herons". is that why President Trump vows to scuttle NATO? So the eagle can ignore the collective and freely plunder the blue herons? . Quote
eyeball Posted April 15, 2016 Report Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Good plan....just keep on making more eggs for those eagles. Tell the blue herons that it is necessary to "protect blue heron rights" and a "responsibility to protect blue herons". The colony is not the least bit worried about losing a hatchling or two.If you really want to get our attention threaten to attack us with a terrorist. Like you we'll probably go bonkers and then only the sky will be the limit on what we pour into defense. Edited April 15, 2016 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) The colony is not the least bit worried about losing a hatchling or two. If you really want to get our attention threaten to attack us with a terrorist. Like you we'll probably go bonkers and then only the sky will be the limit on what we pour into defense. The blue herons already sent a terrorist to the eagles' nest to try and blow it up, but he got caught. Didn't change much for the eagles. Took different attacks to do that. The blue herons pay a much higher price than one or two eggs/hatchlings. The eagles know that the blue herons will always pay to keep the eagles satisfied with a strong market for blue heron eggs. The funny part is that after the eagles shake down the blue herons yet again, the blue herons retire to their nests to watch eagle media propaganda over their own. Blue herons are funny like that, but they have to keep an eye on 'dem eagles. I like your natural analogy for Canada's government and military procurements, and suspect the blue herons will continue to behave as they always have. Edited April 15, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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