South Carolina 2016 Caucuses/Primaries

[WestCoastRunner]

That is just self serving crap you invented. Turn out is likely high for any number of reasons including people being fed up with a democratic prez for the last 8 years and the fact that there is a real race going on and someone's votes matters.

Really? You only need to look at the exit polls to determine why republicans vote the way they do.

[On Guard for Thee]

That is just self serving crap you invented. Turn out is likely high for any number of reasons including people being fed up with a democratic prez for the last 8 years and the fact that there is a real race going on and someone's votes matters.

Luckily most level headed voters will be able to see the joke the republican campaign has become, and will simply usher the democrats right back to the WH.

[TimG]

Really? You only need to look at the exit polls to determine why republicans vote the way they do.

Whether you like or not there it is legitimate to question the number and type of immigrants allowed into the country. Some of the rhetoric is over the top but it is certainly no worse that that the fear mongering that comes from Bernie and his crowd (the fact that your are too biased to see that does not mean it is not true).

[WestCoastRunner]

Whether you like or not there it is legitimate to question the number and type of immigrants allowed into the country. Some of the rhetoric is over the top but it is certainly no worse that that the fear mongering that comes from Bernie and his crowd (the fact that your are too biased to see that does not mean it is not true).

I am addressing the increase in republican voters based on fear mongering.

[bush_cheney2004]

I am addressing the increase in republican voters based on fear mongering.

This is a good thing...for Republicans and voters in general. Seniors have higher turnout too when Social Security changes are proposed by candidates (fear of losing benefits).

[WestCoastRunner]

This is a good thing...for Republicans and voters in general. Seniors have higher turnout too when Social Security changes are proposed by candidates (fear of losing benefits).

I won't argue this point.

[sharkman]

I am addressing the increase in republican voters based on fear mongering.

Which is just about non existent, there being not much to be scared about. If there had been a recent successful terrorist attack on US soil, or an economic melt down(as when Obama won his first term and was promptly given the Nobel) then there would be something to fear monger with.

The ones that are really worried are the left wing extremists that are starting to realize that Hilary isn't exactly thrilling the masses, and Sanders even less so.

Edited February 22, 2016 by Michael Hardner
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[August1991]

Trump comes away with a 'uuuuuge 11-point win, while Rubio and Cruz virtually are tied at about 22% as I type.

The delegate counter says Trump gets 38 delegates and everybody else gets zero. Is that true? Is SC a winner-take-all state?

Kasich and Bush are tied for 4th at 8% each and Carson is 6th with 7%.

-k

"Yuuuge"? No.

Kimmy, you may be right but I see something wrong in the votes/primaries/delegate count, on both sides of the aisle.

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In Super Tuesday, on the Republican side, I see less "crazy/angry Trump" and more "reasonable other". (I suspect that Christie and Bush III will regret dropping out.)

On the Dem side, Bernie may get this in SC. "It's not over until it's over."

Edited February 22, 2016 by August1991

[Derek 2.0]

Fear is synonymous with ignorance. Its hard to believe the high turnout is in response to anger. Fear trumps all emotions.

Is that the same with "getting the youth vote out"?

[kimmy]

On the Dem side, Bernie may get this in SC. "It's not over until it's over."

I think SC will provide Hillary with her first decisive victory. The Nevada results show that she seems to have a significant edge among black voters, which will serve her well in the southeastern US. Why do black voters like Hillary so much? Apparently because she has positioned herself as Obama's BFF in the public imagination.

-k

[The_Squid]

There is no difference between Trump's demonization of immigrants and Sander's demonization of the banks/corporations/rich people.

When did Sanders say he would ban banks?

[sharkman]

When did Hilary say she was a man?

[On Guard for Thee]

Which is just about non existent, there being not much to be scared about. If there had been a recent successful terrorist attack on US soil, or an economic melt down(as when Obama won his first term and was promptly given the Nobel) then there would be something to fear monger with.

The ones that are really worried are the left wing extremists that are starting to realize that Hilary isn't exactly thrilling the masses, and Sanders even less so.

How then would you explain how Trump's bombast about slamming the doors to immigrants, especially Muslim's, has caught on so well among the flock?

[sharkman]

Anger at jobs, funding and medical resources being redirected to immigrants when the system can't afford to fully look after its own people, are why it's caught on so well.. Syrians should not be flown half way around the world when neighboring nations much closer to their culture should be taking them. Germany stepped up large, and now look at them. Germans are pissed off too.

[On Guard for Thee]

Anger at jobs, funding and medical resources being redirected to immigrants when the system can't afford to fully look after its own people, are why it's caught on so well.. Syrians should not be flown half way around the world when neighboring nations much closer to their culture should be taking them. Germany stepped up large, and now look at them. Germans are pissed off too.

When you're talking about surveillance of mosques and creating a database on all Muslim's living in the US, and referring to Mexicans as rapists and murderers, you ain't talking about jobs and medical resources, you are fomenting fear. Nice try though.

[sharkman]

You may have a point there, but plenty of the Trump coverage has referred to his strategy as tapping into voter anger or stirring it up. To say it's all fear mongering is simply nonsense, and how left wingers characterize Trump since they are scared of him. They are obsessed with him to some extent, but then they with whomever is the rep. during every election cycle.

I must say that it's quite a spectacle, and there's a long way to go.

[On Guard for Thee]

You may have a point there, but plenty of the Trump coverage has referred to his strategy as tapping into voter anger or stirring it up. To say it's all fear mongering is simply nonsense, and how left wingers characterize Trump since they are scared of him. They are obsessed with him to some extent, but then they with whomever is the rep. during every election cycle.

I must say that it's quite a spectacle, and there's a long way to go.

Left wingers characterize Trump that way because they can see his bombast for what it is. What is scary is the way his flock fall for it. They are truly scared, without consulting any facts. If Republicans should fear people, it should more likely be their neighbor with the house full of guns, not Muslim terrorists.

[sharkman]

I guess you are what you are then.

[bush_cheney2004]

You may have a point there, but plenty of the Trump coverage has referred to his strategy as tapping into voter anger or stirring it up. To say it's all fear mongering is simply nonsense, and how left wingers characterize Trump since they are scared of him. They are obsessed with him to some extent, but then they with whomever is the rep. during every election cycle.

I agree...fear is what the left wingers and like minded sycophants in Canada have demonstrated so far concerning the Trump campaign. They are really scared of him. Remember how much they loved "hope and change" Obama ?

[On Guard for Thee]

I agree...fear is what the left wingers and like minded sycophants in Canada have demonstrated so far concerning the Trump campaign. They are really scared of him. Remember how much they loved "hope and change" Obama ?

Naw, we just laugh at him and tune into the debates from time to time to see what crazy crap he will spew next. Unfortunately, it seems a lot of republicans have fallen face first for his fear mongering.

[sharkman]

I agree...fear is what the left wingers and like minded sycophants in Canada have demonstrated so far concerning the Trump campaign. They are really scared of him. Remember how much they loved "hope and change" Obama ?

Yeah, it's funny to see the left get shrill about Trump, because they're shrill about almost every republican running. Meanwhile Obama gets a thumbs up for tripling the national debt with little to show for it. But it IS entertaining to watch!

[msj]

Meanwhile Obama gets a thumbs up for tripling the national debt with little to show for it. But it IS entertain to watch!

Well I'm glad you are ENTERTAINED by the Americans!

But try to use some facts: Obama was elected president in November, 2008.

Debt was around $10 trillion at that time.

It was around $18 trillion as at 9/30/2015.

That's not a "tripling." Hell, that's not even a doubling.

Oh, and 69 months of private sector job growth in the wake of a great financial contraction from the junior predecessors' watch is something to show.

All without the help of public job growth like other Presidents relied upon:

Edited February 23, 2016 by msj

[On Guard for Thee]

Yeah, it's funny to see the left get shrill about Trump, because they're shrill about almost every republican running. Meanwhile Obama gets a thumbs up for tripling the national debt with little to show for it. But it IS entertaining to watch!

Maybe check your facts and you'll see what we find it entertaining.

[WestCoastRunner]

Why do black voters like Hillary so much? Apparently because she has positioned herself as Obama's BFF in the public imagination.

-k

Hillary has a lifetime of achievements in supporting children, families and black families. She needs this positioning because of politics. Plain and simple.

[WestCoastRunner]

I agree...fear is what the left wingers and like minded sycophants in Canada have demonstrated so far concerning the Trump campaign. They are really scared of him. Remember how much they loved "hope and change" Obama ?

I suspect they are fearful of a nutbar at the helm. And it certainly affects Canadians in a really bad way if he were to become the POTUS.