Argus Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 So? Some of the richest men in the United States (Soros, Koch, Buffett and Murdoch), men that will influence heavily on the election, well still being very much active in their own companies, are in their 80s. If Soros makes a mistake it doesn't cost people their lives. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 Perception and reality are two different things........Christie doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell in winning the nomination. Probably not, because the Republican party is in the sway of rabid ideologues who don't believe in democracy. They believe in dictatorship. There was some stupid farmer quoted in Iowa talking about how he was going to vote for Cruz, and complaining that even though they send Tea Party people to congress they can't get things done. He didn't seem to realize that it was BECAUSE of the Tea Party that nothing gets done, and that not everyone in the country had the same moronic desires for government as he did. Nor did he care. He wants what he wants and the hell with others. That's basically the Republican party theme, a complete denial that others have any meaningful beliefs or desires or that these should be taken into account in even the smallest way. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Derek 2.0 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 It's hypocritical to want to impose drastic economic sanctions on them when some of the US's closest trading partners and friends are worse human rights abusers than the Cubans. Do these other human rights abusers clear their jails and asylums and send the residents to US shores? Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 If Soros makes a mistake it doesn't cost people their lives. "Young" leaders don't make mistakes? Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 Probably not, because the Republican party is in the sway of rabid ideologues who don't believe in democracy. Could not that be said of Democrats too? Quote
August1991 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Hilary should spend some time thinking about why she's been so thoroughly trounced among young voters. -k Any female who manages to lead is a three-sigma event. It's out-of-the-box: Margaret Thatcher, Jeanne d'Arc, Elisabeth I. Edited February 7, 2016 by August1991 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Now, seeing how anyone on the planet with a half a working brain cell doesn't dispute this, you are being deliberately inflammatory (aka trolling). Your comment is irrelevant to the topic and in violation of the forum. If it's not in dispute, then why make such a fuss ? Canada's state controlled broadcaster (CBC) actually polls Canadians each American election cycle for who they would vote for, even though most of them can't. Pretending to vote in American presidential elections is very popular in Canada, working brain cells or not. This year, we actually have a Canadian candidate ! Edited February 7, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Charles Anthony Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 Folks, Please avoid thread drift. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Argus Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 Do these other human rights abusers clear their jails and asylums and send the residents to US shores? The US's implacable hostility towards the Cuban regime inevitably caused the same in return. There is no reason for that hostility. The cold war is over. The US has befriended all manner of horrible regimes. They could at the very least establish civil relations with the Cubans and some trade. That would persuade against such actions a lot better than Rubio's demand for a continuation of isolation and hostility. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 Could not that be said of Democrats too? Not that I've seen. Not to the same extent. I don't see a rump of hard core Democrats demanding no cooperation and no compromise under any circumstances with the evil Republican Party. The further left they get is probably Sanders and I've never seen anything about him refusing to deal with the other party. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cybercoma Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) I think it has less to do with Hillary and more to do with Bernie. He's gone viral. Every day on facebook I see 10+ posts from random friends of friends about Sanders. Never anything about Hillary... no attacks on her or anything, just no one cares.Bernie wouldn't be nearly as popular if he was pandering. He's trustworthy and that's a big part of his appeal. Edited February 7, 2016 by cybercoma Quote
cybercoma Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 Free college tuition probably helped a lot, but his support includes people well past college age too. I think his larger appeal is to people who are dissatisfied with vast and quickly broadening inequality, "too big to fail", "too big to jail", and in general people who saw what a gigantic flop "Hope and Change" was on bringing either "hope" or "change". -k Change, the likes that people are itching for, is only possible with violence. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 The US's implacable hostility towards the Cuban regime inevitably caused the same in return. There is no reason for that hostility. The cold war is over. The US has befriended all manner of horrible regimes. They could at the very least establish civil relations with the Cubans and some trade. That would persuade against such actions a lot better than Rubio's demand for a continuation of isolation and hostility. Its a moot point , the ability to make treaties (or end them) rest with the consent of the US Senate.......Obama's policy towards Cuba seeks to circumvent the US Senate. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 Not that I've seen. Not to the same extent. I don't see a rump of hard core Democrats demanding no cooperation and no compromise under any circumstances with the evil Republican Party. The further left they get is probably Sanders and I've never seen anything about him refusing to deal with the other party. The Democrats very much so have their own extreme progressive element........more so than the Republicans made evident by the support of Sanders. Quote
Argus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 The Democrats very much so have their own extreme progressive element........more so than the Republicans made evident by the support of Sanders. I think most of those who say they support Sanders are too young to understand, or don't really know what he stands for. And it's always more 'fun' to support someone who promises you rainbows and unicorns, just see Trudeau. Plus there's a lot to dislike about Clinton. If Biden were in this thing Sanders would have dropped out by now. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Its a moot point , the ability to make treaties (or end them) rest with the consent of the US Senate.......Obama's policy towards Cuba seeks to circumvent the US Senate. Somebody should. It's not a functional body any more, nor is the congress. Too many wacko tea party types folding their arms and saying "No compromise! No deal! No cooperation! We had government!" Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Somebody should. It's not a functional body any more, nor is the congress. Too many wacko tea party types folding their arms and saying "No compromise! No deal! No cooperation! We had government!" Perhaps first of all you should understand that the US congress is the senate, and the house of representatives. It seems you are trying to say the senate is somehow seperate from congress. Basic stuff. Quote
Argus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Perhaps first of all you should understand that the US congress is the senate, and the house of representatives. It seems you are trying to say the senate is somehow seperate from congress. Basic stuff. I think everyone here over the age of 12 understands what I meant. If you actually had any interest in discussing events you'd be doing so rather than taking a snide opportunity to get off yet another one liner. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 I think everyone here over the age of 12 understands what I meant. If you actually had any interest in discussing events you'd be doing so rather than taking a snide opportunity to get off yet another one liner. Just helping out, I find often times Canadians get confused about our senate and theirs. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 I think most of those who say they support Sanders are too young to understand, or don't really know what he stands for. Young people can't be "extremists"? Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Somebody should. It's not a functional body any more, nor is the congress. Too many wacko tea party types folding their arms and saying "No compromise! No deal! No cooperation! We had government!" That doesn't mater, it is a democratically elected body and those are the laws.........what percent of GOP members are "wacko tea party types"? Edited February 8, 2016 by Derek 2.0 Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Gloria Steinem made a comment that young women have not yet come against gender bias in the workforce which partially explains their support of sanders. If they had any inkling of what's to come, they may quickly change their support to Hillary. I tend to agree. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Maybe young women voters know how to vote without using just their ovaries. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Maybe young women voters know how to vote without using just their ovaries. How is that possible? That's like saying men vote without their testicles. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 How is that possible? That's like saying men vote without their testicles. They still have them, but they don't have to use them. American voters will vote for the candidate(s) of their choice....even "young women". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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