Topaz Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 The FBI has announced they think there are 1000 sleeper cells in NA. My question is how did they pin point the number down to 1000 and where are these 1000 people since they say its a 1000? http://www.torontosun.com/2015/11/20/1000-isis-sleepers-in-us-and-canada-expert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 "I have here in my hand a list of two hundred and five people that were known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping the policy of the State Department." - Joseph R. McCarthy When asked for the list he said he could not share it because of "National Security". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 "I have here in my hand a list of two hundred and five people that were known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping the policy of the State Department." - Joseph R. McCarthy When asked for the list he said he could not share it because of "National Security". Somebody should have monitored his communications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 The most outrageous and misinformed statements from officials come from indviduals who are unable to give proof or evidence of their claims because of their excuse of "national security" concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notca Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I believe there likely are sleeper cells in NA and all over the western world. I believe that intelligence knows where a lot of them are. But the question is, why are they allowed to remain? Of course, because our Constitutions prevent us from assuming guilt and no one can be arrested for what he is likely to do. Shortly after 9/11 it was aired that a certain Mosque in Montreal was recruiting youth for terrorism. There were flicks on tv of the RCMP surveilling the Mosque and listening to what was being said inside. As usual the stories were never followed up, just left to fall by the wayside and be forgotten So the next question is, if intelligence has known that sleeper cells and recruiting stations exist, why hasn't there been an amendment to the law to make it possible for anyone known to be connected to terrorists to be arrested, interrogated and possible detained or deported? Why can a law be passed to require internet site providers to report and block any user who is engaged in promoting and/or recruiting for terrorism? I haven't visited any such sites myself but I have heard enough about them to believe that they are operating freely. Freedom of speech does not wash in this matter. It is against the law to promote hate or incite to riot which is what sites like that do. So why are they allowed to operate? Anyone got answers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 It is against the law to promote hate or incite to riot which is what sites like that do. So why are they allowed to operate?Because this website would have to be shut down too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 It is against the law to promote hate or incite to riot which is what sites like that do. So why are they allowed to operate? Anyone got answers? For the same reasons that there are thousands of people in America on the "terrorist watch list" but they have the right to purchase guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Because this website would have to be shut down too. I think you're being too hard on yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notca Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Because this website would have to be shut down too. How so? I haven't seen anyone here recruiting for terrorists or promoting terror attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notca Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 For the same reasons that there are thousands of people in America on the "terrorist watch list" but they have the right to purchase guns. Hah! I see, Because the authorities aren't using their noggins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I think you're being too hard on yourself. Good one, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 How so? I haven't seen anyone here recruiting for terrorists or promoting terror attacks.I'm referring to your side - the imperialist warmongers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notca Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) I'm referring to your side - the imperialist warmongers. Has 'my side' , those evil imperialist warmongers, recruited somebody or tried to incite somebody to commit a terror attack? I must have missed that. Edited November 23, 2015 by notca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 On a American talk radio show, it was stated the CIA and the FBI are very short-handed and can't handle anymore including the people arriving from Syria, which makes more of a threat to the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Has 'my side' , those evil imperialist warmongers, recruited somebody or tried to incite somebody to commit a terror attack? I must have missed that. You missed the lead up to GWB's invasion of Iraq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notca Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 You missed the lead up to GWB's invasion of Iraq? I must have had a memory lapse. I don't remember being on any side back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 You're on the same side now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 1000 'sleeper cells' is probably wildly out. I doubt if ISIS has anything like that organizational capability. However, there may be many potential jihadis out there who don't even know they could be radicalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I believe there likely are sleeper cells in NA and all over the western world. I believe that intelligence knows where a lot of them are. But the question is, why are they allowed to remain? Of course, because our Constitutions prevent us from assuming guilt and no one can be arrested for what he is likely to do. Shortly after 9/11 it was aired that a certain Mosque in Montreal was recruiting youth for terrorism. There were flicks on tv of the RCMP surveilling the Mosque and listening to what was being said inside. As usual the stories were never followed up, just left to fall by the wayside and be forgotten So the next question is, if intelligence has known that sleeper cells and recruiting stations exist, why hasn't there been an amendment to the law to make it possible for anyone known to be connected to terrorists to be arrested, interrogated and possible detained or deported? Why can a law be passed to require internet site providers to report and block any user who is engaged in promoting and/or recruiting for terrorism? I haven't visited any such sites myself but I have heard enough about them to believe that they are operating freely. Freedom of speech does not wash in this matter. It is against the law to promote hate or incite to riot which is what sites like that do. So why are they allowed to operate? Anyone got answers? The best thing to do when you have a line on nefarious types is keep monitoring them, and see who associates with them. If you got rid of the ones you were aware of it would make it harder for you to find out who all the new ones were. So you wire tap them, read their emails and texts etc for a few years and then when the time is right you get a clean sweep. You also need the zeitgeist to go along with arrests to give their sentences some oomph. If you arrested people before anything bad ever happened the political will would not exist for long-term incarcerations. If 30 guys were nabbed while the Harper gov't was in power and stuck in jail for twenty years each the liberals on this site would have gone apoplectic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 If 30 guys were nabbed while the Harper gov't was in power and stuck in jail for twenty years each the liberals on this site would have gone apoplectic. What do you think would have happened if 30 anti-abortionists had their guns seized because of what they might do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 , if intelligence has known that sleeper cells and recruiting stations exist, why hasn't there been an amendment to the law to make it possible for anyone known to be connected to terrorists to be arrested, interrogated and possible detained or deported? There once was a PM who dared people to just watch how far he would go with regard to suspending civil rights in the face of possible terrorists among us. Maybe we need a leader like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 What do you think would have happened if 30 anti-abortionists had their guns seized because of what they might do? I imagine the action would be applauded, if surveillance showed they were actually planning to do something. I would applaud it, certainly, and I wouldn't stop at just confiscating their guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 There once was a PM who dared people to just watch how far he would go with regard to suspending civil rights in the face of possible terrorists among us. Maybe we need a leader like him. No one could pull it off like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 There once was a PM who dared people to just watch how far he would go with regard to suspending civil rights in the face of possible terrorists among us. Maybe we need a leader like him. Best thing he ever did. I don't think fils has it in him. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 What do you think would have happened if 30 anti-abortionists had their guns seized because of what they might do? I don't honestly give a crap what happens to people who are actually in the planning stages of committing murder. They could be racists, religious fanatics, anarchists, whatever. If the proof exists that they are up to no good they should go away for a long time. I don't really understand what difference it makes to you and me if they are anti-abortionists. Plz explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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