Trudeau's Committment to Syrian Refugees - 25,000 by Year End

[WestCoastRunner]

Ilk, as in the progressive literati/glitterati of central Canadian academic, media and political elites and their hangers on and admirers.

Gosh you make us sound so intelligent!

[WestCoastRunner]

Taxpayers, you mean? The ones who have to pay for the freeloaders your ilk keeps inviting in?

Many of these freeloaders are being hired by employers in Canada who were themselves refugees or immigrants at one time. Try again.

[waldo]

By Market dictates, do you mean the Trudeau Liberals awarding a contract for immigration services for Syrian refugees, to a company that employed a Liberal MP?

I wonder if media has connected the dots yet?

what you're providing is hardly 'smear worthy'... you'll need to try harder.

thanks for highlighting the guy, Marco Mendicino, a new Liberal who won the Eglinton – Lawrence seat in the recent election... ousting Harper Conservative Finance Minister, Joe Oliver, no less!

so, your correct wording should have been (if what you're saying is actually true... wait, what are you actually saying?) that a company awarded a contract by the new Liberal government previously had an employee, one who is now a Liberal MP. You're also missing any ties between the company, what kind of contract it was awarded... and the actual focus/discussion on hotel lodging for refugees. Please, carry on... don't wait for the media... connect those dots yourself!

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[Derek 2.0]

what you're providing is hardly 'smear worthy'... you'll need to try harder.

Really? Odd that when said info was to relayed to several members of the media, and a member of the Opposition, they found it quite interesting and well worth exploring further

so, your correct wording should have been (if what you're saying is actually true... wait, what are you actually saying?) that a company awarded a contract by the new Liberal government previously had an employee, one who is now a Liberal MP. You're also missing any ties between the company, what kind of contract it was awarded... and the actual focus/discussion on hotel lodging for refugees. Please, carry on... don't wait for the media... connect those dots yourself!

Nothing to be seen here folks, move along

[waldo]

Really? Odd that when said info was to relayed to several members of the media, and a member of the Opposition, they found it quite interesting and well worth exploring further

then perhaps you could speak to that... or speak to something specific/concrete

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Nothing to be seen here folks, move along

with what you've presented, clearly, there's nothing there.

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[Derek 2.0]

then perhaps you could speak to that... or speak to something specific/concrete

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Such as? A company recently granted contracts by the Trudeau Government to provide services for Syrian refugees, previously employed a Liberal MP.

with what you've presented, clearly, there's nothing there.

Except the previous employer of a Liberal MP, received contracts pertaining to the resettlement of Syrian refugees.......has the Government made known how they granted contracts in such a timely manner? Of course, this isn't the first time the Liberal's contract awarding process relating to Syrian refugees has come into question....

Why are the Trudeau Liberals hiding behind "security reasons" in relation to the awarding of contracts?

[waldo]

Such as? A company recently granted contracts by the Trudeau Government to provide services for Syrian refugees, previously employed a Liberal MP.

no - the company previously employed someone who has now been elected a Liberal MP in the recent election... defeating Harper Conservative Finance Minister, Joe Oliver, no less!

you have provided nothing but your own vagueness and innuendo... just another way for a CPC supporter to attempt to denigrate the refugee program.

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[dialamah]

Such as? A company recently granted contracts by the Trudeau Government to provide services for Syrian refugees, previously employed a Liberal MP.

Except the previous employer of a Liberal MP, received contracts pertaining to the resettlement of Syrian refugees.......has the Government made known how they granted contracts in such a timely manner? Of course, this isn't the first time the Liberal's contract awarding process relating to Syrian refugees has come into question....

Why are the Trudeau Liberals hiding behind "security reasons" in relation to the awarding of contracts?

Hey, look at that -- the supposed Bastion of progressive support and validation, the CBC, runs an article that actually includes questioning a Liberal government's actions! Who'da thunk? Certainly not any Conservative supporter!

Anyway, I think you and Rona are stretching enough to hurt yourselves here. Even potential MPs have to work somewhere, and unless they're somehow benefiting from the company even after they've left, your suspicions verge on paranoia. Although we could probably avoid the issue by including something on the application, such as: "Do you intend to run for public office at any time in the future?" Yes/No. (Please note that answering yes to this question may preclude you from employment with our company).

The story mentions exclusions related to security and international trade agreements. Perhaps the goal here is to ensure such companies are not targeted by Canadians or anyone else unhappy with helping refugees. And, it seems time was a factor - locally sourced items are no doubt faster to obtain than ones from out-of-country.

Edited January 30, 2016 by dialamah

[Derek 2.0]

no - the company previously employed someone who has now been elected a Liberal MP in the recent election.....

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..........And has since be awarded contracts relating to the resettlement of Syrian refugees.

[waldo]

..........And has since be awarded contracts relating to the resettlement of Syrian refugees.

inNuEnDo!

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[Derek 2.0]

inNuEnDo!

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Are you to suggest said company hasn't been awarded contracts, and that the media report stating as much is wrong?

[waldo]

Are you to suggest said company hasn't been awarded contracts, and that the media report stating as much is wrong?

are you to claim said company that has been awarded a contract, realized that contract because a former employee is now a Liberal MP? If so, you should provide the basis for your claim. Otherwise, again, all you're providing is inNuEnDo! And, for what purpose, other than to attempt to negatively disparage the refugee program?

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[Derek 2.0]

are you to claim said company that has been awarded a contract, realized that contract because a former employee is now a Liberal MP? If so, you should provide the basis for your claim. Otherwise, again, all you're providing is inNuEnDo! And, for what purpose, other than to attempt to negatively disparage the refugee program?

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I have no idea Waldo, as mentioned in the CBC story from last month, the Liberal Government isn't forthcoming with the contract process.......citing "security reasons"

[bush_cheney2004]

...Why are the Trudeau Liberals hiding behind "security reasons" in relation to the awarding of contracts?

Looks like the Liberals are indeed back, complete with their famous Liberal corruption.

[Derek 2.0]

Looks like the Liberals are indeed back, complete with their famous Liberal corruption.

I do find it odd that the Government cites "security" over the awarding process of care packages to the refugees......

[waldo]

I have no idea Waldo, as mentioned in the CBC story from last month, the Liberal Government isn't forthcoming with the contract process.......citing "security reasons"

say what... "you have no idea"? We should know more about the new Liberal backbench MP you're targeting here: Marco Mendicino - a former federal prosecutor, worked for the Law Society of Upper Canada, was president of the Association of Justice Counsel (an organization representing some 3,000 federal prosecutors and government lawyers), and has taught as an adjunct professor at Osgoode Hall Law School.

there appears to be some uncertainty here concerning your employee designation: I read his 'community organizing' interests to include commitment to "improving education and working on local school initiatives, like rolling out lunch programs for full-day kindergarten and improving outdoor facilities... dedicating his time to the John Wanless Childcare Centre, North Toronto Soccer Club and COSTI Immigration Services – an organization that helps immigrants acquire the educational, social and economic skills they need on arriving in Canada."

now that word 'dedicating' is suggestive of volunteerism... but hey, as you say, "I have no idea", whether the guy was, as you state, an actual employee of COSTI Immigration Services. However, what I do know with some confidence is that prior to running as an MP in the recent election, Mendicino was running his own law practice specializing in regulatory, labour and employment law.

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[waldo]

I do find it odd that the Government cites "security" over the awarding process of care packages to the refugees......

I'm shocked that you found a member to bite on your innuendo and to outright declare corruption... no vagueness or hedging or innuendo at all! Oh wait... it's that member! Carry on!

[Derek 2.0]

say what... "you have no idea"? We should know more about the new Liberal backbench MP you're targeting here.........

That's all well and good Waldo, but omits the rushed and secretive process by the Liberal Government of awarding contracts pertaining to the refugee file.......security reasons you see

[Derek 2.0]

I'm shocked that you found a member to bite on your innuendo and to outright declare corruption... no vagueness or hedging or innuendo at all! Oh wait... it's that member! Carry on!

I think its only normal that people will draw their own conclusions to a secretive process involving the granting of contracts relating to the resettlement of refugees by the Trudeau Liberals.......

Is there something wrong with scrutiny pertaining to Government, a Government that refuses to release details of how they sprinkled contracts around?

[On Guard for Thee]

I'm shocked that you found a member to bite on your innuendo and to outright declare corruption... no vagueness or hedging or innuendo at all! Oh wait... it's that member! Carry on!

I'd have been shocked NOT to hear a weigh in from that member when it's a Canada issue.

[waldo]

That's all well and good Waldo, but omits the rushed and secretive process by the Liberal Government of awarding contracts pertaining to the refugee file.......security reasons you see

if you had/have a problem with the process of contract awarding, you should have said so without impugning the integrity and/or reputation of a newly elected MP or the company COSTI Immigration Services. I trust you will see and acknowledge the error of your ways - yes?

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[waldo]

I think its only normal that people will draw their own conclusions to a secretive process involving the granting of contracts relating to the resettlement of refugees by the Trudeau Liberals.......

Is there something wrong with scrutiny pertaining to Government, a Government that refuses to release details of how they sprinkled contracts around?

you played it out and Mr. Trolly bit! As I said, your claimed government scrutiny was misdirected towards a newly elected MP and the company COSTI Immigration Services.

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[bush_cheney2004]

Liberal party corruption had to show up sooner or later....may as well be a Syrian refugee caper....good as any other.

[Derek 2.0]

if you had/have a problem with the process of contract awarding, you should have said so without impugning the integrity and/or reputation of a newly elected MP or the company COSTI Immigration Services. I trust you will see and acknowledge the error of your ways - yes?

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Where have I impugned anyone's integrity/reputation, be it those in the Liberal Government or vendors that received said contracts relating to the refugee file?

Simply put, there is no way to know the details of the process (and if there are any examples of malfeasance) of awarding contracts by the Trudeau Liberals.........because they won't make it known do to "security reasons".

As noted last month:

Michelle Rempel, the Conservative critic for immigration, refugees and citizenship, called it "bizarre" that the government would use security as a reason to "sole-source" a contract for parkas.

She said it's another example of the government not providing enough details, and that there are many questions around the procurement of other services, from housing to consulting, to language training.

"We all want to help, but we want to get it right," she said, calling for more accountability.

So why is the Trudeau Government hiding the process in which it awards contracts?

[waldo]

Where have I impugned anyone's integrity/reputation, be it those in the Liberal Government or vendors that received said contracts relating to the refugee file?

when challenged to put up something specific and concrete, you openly state "you don't know"... "there's no way to know". But in spite of that open acknowledgement, you didn't directly target the government with your presumptive concern; instead you targeted the newly elected MP and the company that realized a contract; i.e., your inNuEnDo!

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So why is the Trudeau Government hiding the process in which it awards contracts?

excuse me as a quote from 'Michelle Rempel' is hardly a source I'll bother with. Your word 'hiding' is simply you over-reacting to a generalized 'security reasons' reference I keep coming across... and apparently, this all focuses on the "Welcome Kits' given to the refugees upon their arrival. And I read it in relation to the government not wanting to disclose the names and/or locations of vendors providing materials to fill those kits. Here's a thought: given the backlash from the usual detractors of immigration/refugees... and given, particularly, the inflammatory rhetoric from Harper Conservatives during the election campaign... with a resulting degree of public backlash to immigrants/refugees, to the program itself... is there any chance of targeted "ill will" towards vendors supplying materials for the kits? Accordingly, any reason why not to disclose the names/locations of the vendors, hey? Ya think!

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