scribblet Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 They're giving it to nakedly partisan organizations. Do you think an organization that happens to contain nothing but NDPers is non-partisan just because because they put those words on their website? Think a little. Maybe you should think a little more too - no doubt had the OP seen the Democrat money first it wouldn't have been an issue. Maybe it is just as both sites say, non partisan to help democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 The money went specifically to the democracy project in Ukraine. Shhh... don't let facts get in the way of a good narrative. you're sure hey? it seems there's quite the registered concern from the SIGIR - Special Inspector General for IRAQ Reconstruction - Improved Oversight Needed for State Department Grants to the International Republican Institute... concerns over how money was spent and what results were actually realized with the $50 million grant given to the International Republican Institute (IRI)... for democracy-building activities in Iraq. Why would IRI be in again... regime change was a done deal! Oh wait, not another change! but hey, no worries... I'm sure Harper's crack PMO auditors are on the job and have this covered... you know, in line with how Harper has transitioned the role of the PMO into an extension of actual governance! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 They're giving it to nakedly partisan organizations. We're giving it to the people who are doing the work. Set up your own group if you think you can do it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Huxley Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 "Purpose: Strengthening Multiparty Democracy" AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAI'm sure the cheque was drafted in the spirit of Orwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 We're giving it to the people who are doing the work. Set up your own group if you think you can do it better.Canada had one - Harper dismantled it because it wasn't partisan enough for him. That's why he had to look south of the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Huxley Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) I hope BC is watching this thread. Next time he tries to deny that Harper is a neocon will be amusing. Edited October 10, 2015 by G Huxley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 you're sure hey? it seems there's quite the registered concern from the SIGIR - Special Inspector General for IRAQ Reconstruction - Improved Oversight Needed for State Department Grants to the International Republican Institute... concerns over how money was spent and what results were actually realized with the $50 million grant given to the International Republican Institute (IRI)... for democracy-building activities in Iraq. Why would IRI be in again... regime change was a done deal! Oh wait, not another change! but hey, no worries... I'm sure Harper's crack PMO auditors are on the job and have this covered... you know, in line with how Harper has transitioned the role of the PMO into an extension of actual governance! . So Harper hopes that the IRI will have the same kind of success in Ukraine that they had in Iraq. Oh, my gawd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Canada had one - Harper dismantled it because it wasn't partisan enough for him. That's why he had to look south of the border. It was shut down because the board had imploded. A series of controversies had led to a level of infighting that made the organization unworkable. The job that it used to do is now part of Foreign Affairs and International Trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I hope BC is watching this thread. Next time he tries to deny that Harper is a neocon will be amusing. Guess you missed the post that showed that Harper/Foreign Affairs actually gave MORE money to the Democratic Institute, right? Same goal of democracy - different underlying ideology. But I'm sure you have your reasons for ignoring that little factoid...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Guess you missed the post that showed that Harper/Foreign Affairs actually gave MORE money to the Democratic Institute, right? Same goal of democracy - different underlying ideology. But I'm sure you have your reasons for ignoring that little factoid...... this post (of yours)? Gee - they gave them $2 million a year for four years to the Republican Institute enhance multi-party democracy.......but they also gave the National Democratic Institute $2.7 million to further democracy as well. Republicans, Democrats....big conspiracy going on to further democracy. Wow. Link: http://www.acdi-cida.gc.ca/acdi-cida/contributions.nsf/Eng/0C194A190668148E85257D420061CEC0 $8 million versus $2.7 million... wait, let me double-check this 'simple' math... seems right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Huxley Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Guess you missed the post that showed that Harper/Foreign Affairs actually gave MORE money to the Democratic Institute, right? Same goal of democracy - different underlying ideology. But I'm sure you have your reasons for ignoring that little factoid...... The Democrats are Neocons too. e.g. Syria and Libya. Edited October 11, 2015 by G Huxley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poochy Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Who needs mainstream media for this? Why did the Harper group give $8 million to the International Republican Institute? O so we don't need what you might call a professional or well known reputable journalists to confirm this, but a list of 'academics' no one has heard of is somehow an important measure of Harpers character. SIgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerve Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) It reaks. Not like you can trust CIDA you know the Canadian International Development Agency to run this program - instead they need to give money to the US republican party for CIA operations. Sort of crazy, and actually is probably illegal, not like supporting illegal foreign espionage has been prevented by Canada's justice system regardless. Yeah gut Canadian Agencies then pay American ones, totally corrupt undertaking. Why did that 8 million not go directly into a CIDA project carried out by Canadians? http://www.acdi-cida.gc.ca/cidaweb/cpo.nsf/fWebCSAZEn?ReadForm&idx=00&CC=UA Seems familiar... Strengthening Democratic Parties and Civil Society OrganisationsStatus: Operational Start — End: 2015-03-11 — 2017-12-31 Description: The project aims to advance democracy in Ukraine by enabling Ukrainians to more effectively participate in political life. It seeks to help new democratic political parties to gradually grow into nati...National Democratic Institute - Development Recipient Information Recipient Name: National Democratic Institute Location: Washington, United States Date: 2015-03-11 Value: $2,900,000.00 Type: Contribution Purpose: Strengthening Democratic Parties and Civil Society Organisations Comments: 1. Multi-year award for fiscal years 2014-15 to 2017-18Project DetailsStrengthening Democratic Parties and Civil Society Organisations LET ME GUESS THIS ONE IS THE US DEMOCRATIC PARTY??? 8 million for the GOP 3 million for the DEMS? REALLY WTF?/? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Institute_for_International_Affairs Why did Canada need to fund 11 Million dollars to US political parties to fund CIA/NSA programs in Ukraine - couldn't it bribe its own people there? 5 million for EUROPE Institutional links Disclosure of Grant and Contribution Awards Over $25,000Quarterly Reports for Foreign Affairs Quarterly Reports for International Trade Quarterly Reports for Development TransparencyCompleted Access to Information Requests Proactive Disclosure European Endowment for Democracy - Development Recipient Information Recipient Name: European Endowment for Democracy Location: Brussels / Bruxelles, Belgium Date: 2014-05-28 Value: $5,000,000.00 Type: Contribution Purpose: Strengthening Grassroots Democracy Comments: 1. Multi-year award for fiscal years 2014-15 to 2018-19 Project Details Strengthening Grassroots DemocracyAND THE BIG CANDIAN CONTRACT WINNER... $12,000 REALLY 12 THOUSAND!??? Vendor Name: 175213 Canada Inc. (Samson & Reference Number: 671362913-7060763 Contract Date: 2014-10-14 Description of Work: 2302 - Purchase of services for development assistance Contract Period: 2014-10-14 to 2015-03-31 Contract Value: $12,075.00 Comments: Competitively Sourced Contract Project: Strengthening Grassroots Democracy So 11 million for US "democracy" in Ukraine 5 Million for "EU" democracy in Ukraine and 12 thousand for "Canadian Democracy" in Ukriane. If this is the Harper Regime variety maybe CIDA made the right choice on the Canadian contribution, not excepting the other 16 million funded into ? God knows what. Or perhaps Samson and Associes knows what.. as it seems the 12000 was likely to move money around. Hilarious.. THE NEW CBC... https://www.democracyendowment.eu/news/can-we-help-ukraine/ Russian intruction in Ukraine (half of Ukraines population was Russian) Remove propaganda --- yeah more like push western propaganda. Their quote... “It depends what the new government will do" We are an alternative to national radio with the support of the national government letting us broadcast on their frequencies... lol... this is funny too "other potential future beneficieries. "In addition to newly appointed political figures, EED visited several potential future beneficiaries" Edited October 11, 2015 by nerve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 this post (of yours)? $8 million versus $2.7 million... wait, let me double-check this 'simple' math... seems right! $8 million for 4 years, $2.7 million for one year. Yep, simple math...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Republicans = dog whistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Republicans = dog whistle. You got that right....big time "red meat" in Canada. Blow that whistle ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 You got that right....big time "red meat" in Canada. Blow that whistle ! Yep. Apparently it's only a problem when it's Harper's dog whistle. When it's theirs, it's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Again Norman Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Maybe a hedge to getting that XL pipeline approved? Because the GOP has directed over $80 million of donations to Conservative candidates. I'd say its a fair trade off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Because the GOP has directed over $80 million of donations to Conservative candidates. I'd say its a fair trade off.Ah, so that's what they mean by proportional representation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poochy Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Ah, so that's what they mean by proportional representation. Leave it to you to wallow in that mud hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Because the GOP has directed over $80 million of donations to Conservative candidates. I'd say its a fair trade off. Very interesting - can you provide a cite/link to support that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Leave it to you to wallow in that mud hole. Oh sorry, I forgot the right aren't known for a sense of humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebound Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) These "assisting democracy" organization might be "assisting democracy", but they are really in the business of supporting western-leaning conservatism in these evolving democracies. In Ukraine especially, there is concern that part of this money was used to fund ultra-right (fascist?) groups such as the "Ukrainian Taliban" ( https://theintercept.com/2015/03/18/ukraine-part-3/)... ... and the "AZOV" Battalion ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion The goals may be noble, but the problems in Ukraine are not that much different than Iraq, when you factor in all of the various factions and their centuries of old infighting. It is another attempt to impose a Conservative agenda using a rich minority, onto the rest of the unwilling people. Where have we seen that before? ... .... Edited October 13, 2015 by Icebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Why is this such a big deal? The GOP has supported Harper for years. Maybe he is just returning a favor or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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