eyeball Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 An ethical principled whistleblower. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 An ethical principled whistleblower. More likely a union activist working for the NDP. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 The government most certainly has not only the right but the responsibility to ensure that security precautions are being taken, and to give guidance on what kind of refugees should be prioritized. In this case that was those most endangered. Most endangered, or most Christian? If his PMO staff vetted immigration files, as has been reported, then they overstepped their bounds big time. Quote
Argus Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Most endangered, or most Christian? If his PMO staff vetted immigration files, as has been reported, then they overstepped their bounds big time. Christians, Yazidis and gays and lesbians are clearly more endangered than ordinary Shiites or Suunis. I'd probably include Kurds, on the list of endangered, as well. That region has a very, very low tolerance for anyone who is the slightest bit different than the majority. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 More likely a union activist working for the NDP. An ethical principled whistleblower in any case. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
scribblet Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Which is probably why it didn't happen. They simply held meetings and discussions with Immigration. Harper made that quite clear in his response to this question. It didn't, not the way it was reported anyway... The PMO did request to stop the processing of a preliminary group of Syrian refugees, pending an audit of their cases. The gov’t has denied the were focusing on religious minorities to exclude an identifiable group but were focusing on the most vulnerable which makes sense and PMO staff were not involved in the process. The Star says it could not independently verify the report in it’s story and neither has Trudeau who without knowing the facts simply makes stuff up. That is what is ‘disgusting’ Mr. Trudeau. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
cybercoma Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Posted October 10, 2015 That ship isn't going to sail with anyone but blind Conservative partisans, scribblet. Quote
scribblet Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 That ship isn't going to sail with anyone but blind Conservative partisans, scribblet. As opposed to blind Liberal or NDP partisans. People in glass houses and all that. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Argus Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 As opposed to blind Liberal or NDP partisans. People in glass houses and all that. Yes, a lot of gays and lesbians are conservative partisans. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Oh, what a shock. Germany is now in crisis. It can't handle all these migrants or refugees or whatever you want to all them. Public opinion is turning against Merkel and public services are overwhelmed. For years, Germans have been told by their elites that they desperately need migrants to subsidize their pensions, replenish their aging population and address a growing shortage of skilled workers. That would make sense if the migrants were a lot like Germans. But they’re not. Only a small number of the newcomers are well-educated professionals. Many more are illiterate, traumatized, children, or old. The majority are young men, with few skills and nothing to do. Almost none speak German. They are a poor fit with Germany’s highly skilled, rigidly structured labour market. Damn that mean old Harper for being picky about which refugees we take! Oh if only boy Trudeau were in charge! Already tens of thousands of random middle East migrants would be wandering through the streets of Toronto and Montreal, trying to figure out how street lights work and fighting with each other! http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/the-refugee-tide-turns-in-germany/article26761039/ Edited October 13, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
PIK Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 Harper was right about Russia and he is right about the refugees. The only reason Germany got into this mess, is that they are so scared of being labeled Nazi's if they don't take everyone in. Islam owes Germany and England IMO, and soon Canada. What has trudeau promised the extremists with all his secret mosque meetings with them. Some sort of sharia law like McGuinty tried. And that advisor is with Trudeau and we speak. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Big Guy Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 All "those people" walking the streets in Canada. "Also consider, as horrible as this was, there are millions of white people who this very night cannot walk safely down the streets of Memphis, Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, Kansas City, Philadelphia, Nashville, Pittsburg, Cleveland and many other cities of America. Millions of white people have had to flee the cities of their birth and can no longer walk down the streets of their childhood." - From the National Office of the KKK. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Argus Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 All "those people" walking the streets in Canada. Illiterate, socially backwards, violently intolerant, uneducated, unsophisticated, lacking both social and job skills. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Hydraboss Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 All "those people" walking the streets in Canada. He stated "middle East migrants". Was that too complicated to understand? And yet another KKK quote from you. Have you ever considered actually refuting for a change rather than being so bloody passive aggressive? Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
PIK Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 So we just let everyone in. How are those Muslims countries doing any ways? They suck and that will be Canada's future if we are not careful. Just because PET said so ,does not means it is right. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
ToadBrother Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 So we just let everyone in. How are those Muslims countries doing any ways? They suck and that will be Canada's future if we are not careful. Just because PET said so ,does not means it is right. People said the same thing about the Irish, the Italians, Eastern Europeans, immigrants from India, the Chinese, and on and on. It's just the same rhetoric recycled for the latest immigrant group. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 Meanwhile - that great example of openness and tolerance - Barack Obama......can't even keep up with Stephen Harper. Is Obama a racist? Is he cruel and heartless? Is he completely ignoring the plight of Syrians? Canada has been much more generous than the US and yet, and yet......oh what the heck, it's politics and it's election time. Quote Back to Basics
ToadBrother Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 Meanwhile - that great example of openness and tolerance - Barack Obama......can't even keep up with Stephen Harper. Is Obama a racist? Is he cruel and heartless? Is he completely ignoring the plight of Syrians? Canada has been much more generous than the US and yet, and yet......oh what the heck, it's politics and it's election time. When in doubt, attack the Americans... Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) When in doubt, attack the Americans... Sure...attacking Americans and U.S. policies is deeply embedded in Canadian DNA...especially come election time, but always for defining a Canadian identity. The U.S. has been engaged with Syria for decades...Canada... not so much. Edited October 13, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
ToadBrother Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 Sure...attacking Americans and U.S. policies is deeply embedded in Canadian DNA...especially come election time, but always for defining a Canadian identity. The U.S. has been engaged with Syria for decades...Canada... not so much. Hey, that's not fair! I hear we dropped a bomb a couple of weeks go! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 Hey, that's not fair! I hear we dropped a bomb a couple of weeks go! Well, that's a start. Many older Americans remember bad experiences with Syria during the Lebanese Civil War back in the early 1980's. Even with UN support, President Reagan disengaged from "peacekeeping" after the USMC barracks bombing. Not sure what Canada was doing back then....or now. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 Meanwhile - that great example of openness and tolerance - Barack Obama......can't even keep up with Stephen Harper. Is Obama a racist? Is he cruel and heartless? Is he completely ignoring the plight of Syrians? Canada has been much more generous than the US and yet, and yet......oh what the heck, it's politics and it's election time. Sure...attacking Americans and U.S. policies is deeply embedded in Canadian DNA...especially come election time, but always for defining a Canadian identity. please sir... how does MLW member Simple's post, as you say, "define Canadian identity"? are you saying MLW member Simple's post is an example of what you suggest represents a, "useful microcosm for the CanAm relationship at many levels."... where you have openly asserted that your intent is to reinforce that, "Canadian's define their identity by/with everything that is American". Is this one of those/your examples? Are you sure? in any case, yours is old news MLW member Simple... you were updated on this previously... yet you continue to 'bash America'! --- on September 20, the U.S. announced a 85,000 ceiling for refugees in 2016... rising to 100,000 annually in 2017. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) in any case, yours is old news MLW member Simple... you were updated on this previously... yet you continue to 'bash America'! --- on September 20, the U.S. announced a 85,000 ceiling for refugees in 2016... rising to 100,000 annually in 2017. Waldo - you were wrong back then - and you are still wrong today.....an acknowledgement of that fact would be appreciated, but not expected. From your own linked article: Among the beneficiaries of the new policy will be Syrians. The United States has taken in about 1,500 Syrian refugees since the conflict began more than four years ago, while Europe has been absorbing hundreds of thousands.The White House said earlier this month that it would take in at least 10,000 Syrian refugees over the next year, and the administration’s decision to raise the ceiling for all refugees worldwide in 2016 will allow for that increase. Raising the worldwide ceiling to 100,000 in 2017 could enable the United States to accept even more Syrians, though American officials did not provide an estimate. Edited October 13, 2015 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
Argus Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 People said the same thing about the Irish, the Italians, Eastern Europeans, immigrants from India, the Chinese, and on and on. It's just the same rhetoric recycled for the latest immigrant group. You're being dishonest. There are many real concerns here which were never concerns in the past. You speak of a time when immigrants came here and either sank or swam. Many immigrants couldn't make it and returned home. Those who did often had to work their butts off just to eat. We're in an era of generous government support programs, however, and every migrant we bring in who has virtually no chance of economic success is another person who will have to be carried by those of us who pay taxes. And God knows we're already carrying a lot of people on our backs. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 13, 2015 Report Posted October 13, 2015 When in doubt, attack the Americans... And yet, nobody is doing so. Curious, that. Barrack Obama is adored by the Canadian Left. Granted, mostly because he's Black, or half Black, but nevertheless, he's extremely popular. Yet he's doing far and away less than Harper, and no one seems to be much bothered by that. Certainly no one here who is calling Harper everything from a white supremacist to an evil, uncaring monster, has uttered a single word of condemnation of Obama's rather small goals of bringing in ten thousand Syrians over the next couple of years. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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