Exegesisme Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) My Account Of One God-ism, Polytheism and Monotheism By Exegesisme I believe there is the perfect one and the only perfect one God, and Trinity is a form of the perfect one and the only perfect one God, and there are other forms too. At the beginning of human faith, the same God revealed the same message to each relatively isolated human community to help their understanding and living. Each relatively isolated community received the same message with their specific understanding in their specific set of living conditions. And at this time, each human community had only one God, but expressed in different names, which meant not only the same message from God, and also meant the specific understanding and the specific set of living conditions of each human community. I call faith at this level as one God-ism. My idea is proved by "many scholars, though, find evidence for early forms of monotheism not influenced by the Hebrew biblical tradition."(1) In the grace of the perfect one and the only perfect one God, some relatively isolated human community developed, and communicated each other. At their level of understanding then, they took different name as different thing, so they began to believe there were many different Gods and Goddess. This stage is already well known. "The ancient Egyptians believed in a lot of gods. Stories told about them tell that they directly control natural phenomena such as rain or drought. Although terrifying, Egyptians depict them as beings that guide the humans in their everyday lives. The gods have the power but also frail because they also feel emotions like we do."(2) In the grace of the perfect one and the only perfect one God, the ability of human understanding farther developed. Now we can see this development in history. "In the history of their religion, a pharaoh named Akhenaten emerged and radically changed their religious beliefs. Their religion at that time focused on one god called Aten, or the disk of the sun. Akhenaten occupied himself much with religion that he forgot his responsibilities to his country, such as good governance and management of their economy. This made him infamous towards the people and thus, by the end of his reign, the next pharaoh restored the old traditions of Egypt."(2) The following story is well known too, that is Moses who in the grace of the perfect one and the only perfect one God, created the monotheism, which had become the mainstream of human faith. Reference (1) http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/monotheism.aspx (2) http://www.journey-to-ancient-egypt.com/egyptian-religion.html Edited August 25, 2015 by Exegesisme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Have you payed your donation to church this week, because, he won't forgive you for all your sins if you didn't. Edited August 26, 2015 by Freddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted August 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) Have you payed your donation to church this week, because, he won't forgive you for all your sins if you didn't. Would you show me any evidence and/or reason that your claim is true? Edited August 27, 2015 by Exegesisme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) Would you show me any evidence and/or reason that your claim is true? Guess we going to find out when you die. Edited August 27, 2015 by Freddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted August 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 Guess we going to find out when you die. If you discuss in this way, do you feel any "sorry"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) If you discuss in this way, do you feel any "sorry"? I feel all kinds of sorry , for everything else but humans. It's my superior morality that realizes what a bunch of dirt bags we are. And the realization how unworthy of any sorry we are.I'm the voice of everything else but humans on earth and am expressing how evil we see humans As. They tell me when I meditate. We are especially evil to the road killed squirrels. They really have a good reason to hate us. I won't even speak of how evil the ground hog feel we are. Or the billions of trees we cut down every year, Based on my superior morality we are the ultimate abomination to them. Edited August 27, 2015 by Freddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted August 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 I feel all kinds of sorry , for everything else but humans. It's my superior morality that realizes what a bunch of dirt bags we are. And the realization how unworthy of any sorry we are. I'm the voice of everything else but humans on earth and am expressing how evil we see humans As. They tell me when I meditate. We are especially evil to the road killed squirrels. They really have a good reason to hate us. I won't even speak of how evil the ground hog feel we are. Or the billions of trees we cut down every year, Based on my superior morality we are the ultimate abomination to them. I know that you believe you are a sinner, so do others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) I know that you believe you are a sinner, so do others.That, or I believe superior morality is not logical and I've stopped worrying about achieving it because it's not even realistic and physically possible.On the other hand. If I wanted to guilt trip someone for donations I'd base my guilt on a impossible standard that can realistically never be achieved. Like superior morality. Edited August 28, 2015 by Freddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted August 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 That, or I believe superior morality is not logical and I've stopped worrying about achieving it because it's not even realistic and physically possible. On the other hand. If I wanted to guilt trip someone for donations I'd base my guilt on a impossible standard that can realistically never be achieved. Like superior morality. Did you say what you meant as you said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 I also believe that Freddy is a sinner. Let's get 'im!! -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) I came up with a theory that Moses was the nephew of Akhenaten. Akhenaten was influenced by the incredible volcanic explosion on Thera (Santorini) in the Agaean. The new religion was popular among the hebrew slaves. When Akhenaten was discredited by Ramses (Moses brother), Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt. Nice theory. I ran it past one of the top Old Testament scholars in Canada. He listened patiently and then responded that Moses probably didn't exist. I posted this anecdote on another forum a few years ago and someone far brighter than me replied the it was okay, Moses probably didn't think Professor Jobling existed either. Edited August 28, 2015 by Queenmandy85 Quote A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Did you say what you meant as you said? I used to drive myself depressed from feeling guilty 5-6 years ago. But since I've realized it's no use driving yourself nuts in the name of a goal that's not even possible to achieve. I'm much happier and finally can concentrate on enjoying this beautiful life we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty AC Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 I believe there is the perfect one and the only perfect one God, and Trinity is a form of the perfect one and the only perfect one God, and there are other forms too. Why do believe that a god or gods actually exist? Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted August 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Why do believe that a god or gods actually exist? Not actually exists, but perfectly is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted August 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) I used to drive myself depressed from feeling guilty 5-6 years ago. But since I've realized it's no use driving yourself nuts in the name of a goal that's not even possible to achieve. I'm much happier and finally can concentrate on enjoying this beautiful life we have. I see, you got your foundation. Edited August 29, 2015 by Exegesisme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted August 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 I came up with a theory that Moses was the nephew of Akhenaten. Akhenaten was influenced by the incredible volcanic explosion on Thera (Santorini) in the Agaean. The new religion was popular among the hebrew slaves. When Akhenaten was discredited by Ramses (Moses brother), Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt. Nice theory. I ran it past one of the top Old Testament scholars in Canada. He listened patiently and then responded that Moses probably didn't exist. I posted this anecdote on another forum a few years ago and someone far brighter than me replied the it was okay, Moses probably didn't think Professor Jobling existed either. There are so many different opinions, from so many people, each has each's reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted August 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 I also believe that Freddy is a sinner. Let's get 'im!! -k A spiritual sinner usually has a safe position of self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty AC Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Not actually exists, but perfectly is. What reason(s) do you have for holding that belief? Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted August 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) What reason(s) do you have for holding that belief? My reason is on My Own Future-Directed Super-Applied-Meditation. Now, in the state of My Own Future-Directed Super-Applied-Meditation, I communicate with super-natural beings everyday and in dream, mainly about human affairs, and sometimes also about natural affairs. Sometimes they call themselves gods and goddess. However, according to my definition of God, none of them is god or goddess. I argue with them on my definition. These are my personal experience, but I believe that at least thousands of other human beings share similar experiences in various traditions, as grand rouge, the secret branch of Christianity, Sufism in Islam, Kabbalah in Jews, Hinduism in India, Buddhism in Eastern and Southern Asia, Daoism in China, Shinto in Japan, and various mysterious practices in human primitive religions. You can see the records of these communications in many classical works, which include Bible, many epics, Dream of the Chamber, Hamlet, Faust and so on. You may also look for and find some videos in internet about these communications. All these records are at least partially experienced in various states of high level of human meditation. On all these records, traditions and my own experiences, I believe there is the perfect one and the only perfect one, who has many other names in different traditions. Edited August 29, 2015 by Exegesisme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty AC Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Ok... I don't know what to do with that... Shine on you crazy diamond! Shine on.. Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freekundli Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Why do believe that a god or gods actually exist? You can't prove god doesn't exist, only because that's not how evidence works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 You can't prove god doesn't exist, only because that's not how evidence works. Do you have any actual evidence for the existence of gods or the supernatural? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freekundli Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Do you have any actual evidence for the existence of gods or the supernatural? No, but it doesn't mean that god does not exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 No, but it doesn't mean that god does not exist. Nor can we say definitively that Bigfoot, leprechauns or invisible dragons do not exist. I'm fairly certain you have never been taught to believe in invisible dragons, so it is likely easy for you to accept that they are not real unless, of course, sufficient evidence is presented. Right? That's typically how we treat ideas without evidence. So if we do not have any evidence for the existence of gods is there any reason to believe they exist? Are gods any different than Santa, Bigfoot or invisible dragons? Of course not, yet you still believe in at least one god. Why do you treat this god story different than invisible dragons? Have you been taught to believe in your god, like some children are about Santa? Have you ever listened to children try to rationalize the various plot holes in the Santa story? It's quite entertaining to hear how creative they are when coming up with possible solutions to problems like, visiting the residence of every child on earth in just 24 hrs. Their funny answers are obviously ridiculous but they cling to them, because they have first been taught to believe that Santa is real. If I were to steal a bite of their dessert and blame it on an invisible dragon, the same suspension of logic doesn't take place because they have not been indoctrinated into that belief. So is there any reason that belief in gods is any more plausible than belief in Santa or invisible dragons? All of which we cannot definitely prove do not exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) So is there any reason that belief in gods is any more plausible than belief in Santa or invisible dragons? All of which we cannot definitely prove do not exist.It comes down to what you define as real. Schizophrenics experience hallucinations which, from their perspective, are very real. When people feel they are communicating with god, the religious/spiritual experience can be very real from their perspective. The issue only comes down to how people deal with the input their mind provides them. A schizophrenic having a conversation with a hallucination talking about the weather is a concern to no one. A schizophrenic having a conversation with a hallucination that is telling them to stab their mother is a big a problem. I would say the same applies to people who feel like they can communicate with god. Edited September 1, 2016 by TimG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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