Manspreading

[Guest]

This kind of assinine attitude is why our society is going down the crapper today! In the old days, it would have been simple manners that prevented you from taking up more space than you are entitled to.

When I first came across this concept of "manspreading" I asked my wife what this was all about, and she was already familiar enough with the phenomena whether or not she heard the title before. She spends more time on public transit than I do, and like so many other women have had to deal with guys sitting on bus or a train with their arms extended and legs extended so that they are taking up three seats.

Some of the pictures I've seen posted on this are clearly acts of aggression. The clown...especially if it's a teenager or 20 sumthin, is already letting you know that you have to be ready to fight if you tell him to move or that he's taking up too much space. I know, I've had to deal with situations that could have ended up with fists swinging all because some jackass wants to impose his will on others...especially females who have to sit near him on public transit.

I don't know why I didn't see your last paragraph here before I made the post after. I'm sorry for basically repeating what you said.

[Black Dog]

Have you tried google? Here is a random example:

http://jezebel.com/5967972/fuck-you-dudes-who-sit-with-their-legs-spread-so-wide-that-they-take-up-two-seats-your-dick-is-not-that-big

Uhh, the people that are posting the pictures and claiming it is manspreading are the ones claiming it is manspreading. Go to tumblr or something if you fail to grasp this concept.

Okay, now you are trying to get me to prove a negative. Maybe you don't understand the concept of burden or proof. I have not observed any SJWs trying to make a reasonable definition of manspreading, much like I have not observed the flying spaghetti monster. The burden of proof is not on me to show that the flying spaghetti monster exists, or that the SJWs are making a reasonable definition of manspreading.

LOL. Did you read the title of your link?

Fuck You, Dudes Who Sit With Their Legs Spread So Wide That They Take Up Two Seats (Your Dick Is Not That Big)

In the immortal words of Tag Team: whoomp, there it is.

Then why not call it human spreading or just being inconsiderate?

Because men are the only ones who engage in this particular behaviour, which is distinct from other, equally obnoxious activities (bags on seats, eating, clipping fingernails).

The term was started by feminists on tumblr that viewed men having their legs apart as displaying their genitals to spread 'rape culture' and oppress women. They then went on to publically shame men online for having genitals. And no reasonable definition of manspreading is accepted by these extremists, just if you have your legs apart slightly.

Man, for someone who spends as much time as you do decrying the hypersensitivity of the so-called "SJW" set, you sure are a whiny baby about this stuff.

[-1=e^ipi]

LOL. Did you read the title of your link?

The title doesn't make the claim that manspreading only occurs when multiple seats are taken up. Nice try though.

[Black Dog]

The title doesn't make the claim that manspreading only occurs when multiple seats are taken up. Nice try though.

Irrelevant.

You claimed you " have not observed any SJWs trying to make a reasonable definition of manspreading." Your own link provides one. Did you not read the link perhaps?

One particularly obnoxious phenomenon of public transit comes in the form of a very specific type dude that transcends class, occupation, age and race — this is the dude who sits with his legs spread so far apart that he takes up multiple seats.

Now, I expect you could apply the term to other douchey behaviours: for example, slouching low in the seat and sticking your legs into the aisle. Perhaps, like pornography, you know what it is when you see it. But overall, "sitting with legs spread so far apart that one takes up multiple seats" seems like a reasonable definition to me.

Edited July 13, 2015 by Black Dog

[Canada_First]

Are women jealous that they cannot manspread? Why are they jealous of our large testicles? That's what I want to know. It seems like jealousy to me. It really does. Do they wish to have all men castrated at birth so that we may all be equal?

[Black Dog]

Are women jealous that they cannot manspread? Why are they jealous of our large testicles? That's what I want to know. It seems like jealousy to me. It really does. Do they wish to have all men castrated at birth so that we may all be equal?

How large are we talking here? Mango? Navel Orange? Lime?

[Hal 9000]

What's interesting here is the term; Manspreading. Why not just use "overspreading" or "overextending"?

In this age of removing gender and replacing those words with "person" such as we do for "police persons" etc., we seem perfectly fine to assign gender. This is a pretty good indication that the word "man" or "men" is now looked at and used generally for negative connotations. "Mansplaining" is another good example.

[Black Dog]

What's interesting here is the term; Manspreading. Why not just use "overspreading" or "overextending"?

Because its a behaviour almost exclusively practiced by men.

This is a pretty good indication that the word "man" or "men" is now looked at and used generally for negative connotations. "Mansplaining" is another good example.

No, no it's not.

[WIP]

When I was younger and in good health I would never sit if there were a large number of people taking the train. I believed that the very young, the old and the infirm should get priority. I am now in my autumnal years with an obvious and visible difficulty in mobility. We now live in a town in Southern Ontario and find the vast, vast majority of strangers going out of their way to make my existence a little easier and safer.

Absolutely. I think it's important to mention that this is not just about the old chivalry codes:'giving up a seat, or holding a door for a lady' and other things that can be patronizing or suspicious if uninvited. But since I am healthy enough to run 20 miles and cycle about 60 to 70 miles in the average week, if I get on a bus, I sit at the back and if it's getting crowded and I see anyone come along who looks like they may have difficulty standing for a long bus ride, I'll offer my seat to them.

I suggest the term used to describe this phenomena not be "man"speading but selfishspreading, jerkspreading or jackassspreading. A real "man" would never do something that moronic to create discomfort or problems for strangers.

On this point I disagree! I don't spend a lot of time riding transit, but when I became aware of this "manspreading" meme in internet world, I started paying closer attention when I was on a bus or a train, and sure enough, the "jackasses" can be profiled by age and even more so by gender. There's no getting around the fact that, although I've seen ignorant and inconsiderate females, the "spreading" is clearly a testosterone thing, coming from younger guys who are trying to give off an intimidating vibe....definitely something unwanted in crowded spaces!

[WIP]

I don't know why I didn't see your last paragraph here before I made the post after. I'm sorry for basically repeating what you said.

Quite alright! I have so little time when I come on here to post, that I blow right past a lot of comments without noticing them, and sometimes catch them the second time around....if the thread's not too active.

[WIP]

What's interesting here is the term; Manspreading. Why not just use "overspreading" or "overextending"?

In this age of removing gender and replacing those words with "person" such as we do for "police persons" etc., we seem perfectly fine to assign gender. This is a pretty good indication that the word "man" or "men" is now looked at and used generally for negative connotations. "Mansplaining" is another good example.

Because there all things that guys do, and those of us who don't or are trying to refrain from them, shouldn't be offended by the fact that these are traits of men who try...even in subtle ways to impose their will on others. Sort of similar to the clowns who talk too loud, get too close, or try to show off that they have strong handshakes.

[Hal 9000]

I understand that more men do it than women because, well, if women did it as much, there'd be no issue with doing it. There are many things men do more than women, but we aren't allowed to say fireman, we say firefighter or fire person. We even say fisher person now.

[Black Dog]

I understand that more men do it than women because, well, if women did it as much, there'd be no issue with doing it.

The issue isn't the gender, it's the behaviour itself. IOW: no one is annoyed by manspreaders because they are men; they are annoyed because they are inconsiderate jerks.

There are many things men do more than women, but we aren't allowed to say fireman, we say firefighter or fire person. We even say fisher person now.

Yeah. And?

Edited July 13, 2015 by Black Dog

[Hal 9000]

Absolutely. I think it's important to mention that this is not just about the old chivalry codes:'giving up a seat, or holding a door for a lady' and other things that can be patronizing or suspicious if uninvited. But since I am healthy enough to run 20 miles and cycle about 60 to 70 miles in the average week, if I get on a bus, I sit at the back and if it's getting crowded and I see anyone come along who looks like they may have difficulty standing for a long bus ride, I'll offer my seat to them.

On this point I disagree! I don't spend a lot of time riding transit, but when I became aware of this "manspreading" meme in internet world, I started paying closer attention when I was on a bus or a train, and sure enough, the "jackasses" can be profiled by age and even more so by gender. There's no getting around the fact that, although I've seen ignorant and inconsiderate females, the "spreading" is clearly a testosterone thing, coming from younger guys who are trying to give off an intimidating vibe....definitely something unwanted in crowded spaces!

So, you've never noticed it before, but now that a feminist group pointed it out you do see it - and not only that, they tell you that it's a power thing, testosterone, intimidating, forcing their will etc...and you buy in hook, line and sinker.

You've actually gone from not noticing it at all to clearly intimidating. WoW!

[Hal 9000]

The issue isn't the gender, it's the behaviour itself. IOW: no one is annoyed by manspreaders because they are men; they are annoyed because they are inconsiderate jerks.

Yeah. And?

The point being; when men do something good or honourable, we negate the gender and use words like person or people, or even simply job titles like force, officer or crew, when he does something we find inappropriate or abhorrent, we emphasize the word "man" or "men".

For example; "a man driving a pick-up caused a crash on the highway, and a passing by motorist pulled a baby from the wreckage". Watch the news a little closer and you'll see it all the time.

[Black Dog]

The point being; when men do something good or honourable, we negate the gender and use words like person or people, or even simply job titles like force, officer or crew, when he does something we find inappropriate or abhorrent, we emphasize the word "man" or "men".

For example; "a man driving a pick-up caused a crash on the highway, and a passing by motorist pulled a baby from the wreckage". Watch the news a little closer and you'll see it all the time.

This sounds like a crock of crap to me.

[Hal 9000]

This sounds like a crock of crap to me.

I'm sure it does! But just pay closer attention.

Subliminal messages, the media does it with religion and race as well. It's basic social engineering.

[-1=e^ipi]

You claimed you " have not observed any SJWs trying to make a reasonable definition of manspreading." Your own link provides one. Did you not read the link perhaps?

The title doesn't make an attempt to define manspreading. You need to improve your reading comprehension.

So are you trying to argue that if a SJW hates X and hates Y then X is Y? That doesn't make sense.

[-1=e^ipi]

In this age of removing gender and replacing those words with "person" such as we do for "police persons" etc., we seem perfectly fine to assign gender.

Yes, this sort of goes into the point I was trying to argue with my feminism isn't gender neutral enough thread. Mainstream feminism doesn't have the goal gender neutrality or equality. Rather it wants to associate male with undesirable and female with desirable (which is arguably a traditionalist concept).

[-1=e^ipi]

coming from younger guys who are trying to give off an intimidating vibe....definitely something unwanted in crowded spaces!

How do you know this is the intention of these males? Do you also possess the SJW ability to read minds as well?

[-1=e^ipi]

no one is annoyed by manspreaders because they are men; they are annoyed because they are inconsiderate jerks.

Then why not call it jerkspreading?

[Canada_First]

How large are we talking here? Mango? Navel Orange? Lime?

I can take a picture of mine and post it. Im not shy. I'll even take a pic next too my profile so you'll know they're really mine...hahah. I'm pretty sure Michael would not like it and I may even get banned so I would have to check on that first if there was more interest in my large testicles.

My testicles are about lemon size, maybe between lime and extra large egg size. I never thought of them in terms of fruit...hahaha. I think this is off topic. I have large testicles, I thought I had testicular cancer because they are so large but the doc says no...so...I'm just a guy with large testicles I guess.

Seriously though it seems they are jealous of the large testicles. Why are women constantly trying to make us large testicular men feel shame? Do they have testicle envy? I don't know but it's definitely peculiar. Don't you think?

On a side note, this is a bizarre post. Mods if this post is too bizarre please just tell me to amend it or do it yourselves, no problem. I'm just trying to respond to this gentleman or young lady.

[Black Dog]

The title doesn't make an attempt to define manspreading. You need to improve your reading comprehension.

What exactly are you looking for? A precise measurement?

Everyone (except apparently you) knows what it means: when someone spreads their legs far apart so as to take up more than their allotted space and/or interfere with other passengers' space. Not sure why you are continuing to play dumb on this point or why a precise definition even matters at all.

I'm sure it does! But just pay closer attention.

Subliminal messages, the media does it with religion and race as well. It's basic social engineering.

Examples or GTFO.

[-1=e^ipi]

What exactly are you looking for? A precise measurement?

That would help.

Everyone (except apparently you) knows what it means: when someone spreads their legs far apart so as to take up more than their allotted space

So according to you, is this manspreading?:

How about the pictures I gave in the first post?

[Black Dog]

That would help.

Then the problem is you and your...whatever your condition is. OCD? Asperger's?

So according to you, is this manspreading?:

Hard to tell from that pic. He does seem to be bumping up against the guy next to him. There's no reason to be so splayed out, especially on the Underground, which has pretty narrow seats.

How about the pictures I gave in the first post?

The first pic seems to be, but again, it's hard to tell from that angle. The second one definitely is since the guy is actually taking up two seats.

Edited July 14, 2015 by Black Dog