Democratic nomination 2016

[kraychik]

I believe Sanders is suggesting a constitutional amendment to put an end to Citizens United, and he's not the first to suggest that. I think John McCain has said something similar. There's actually bipartisan support among voters on the subject... polls show that over 80% of US voters feel something should be done about big money in politics.

The Democrats have already proposed repealing the First Amendment to appropriate power to Congress to regulate political speech. You seem to be in favor of that with your touting of "big money in politics" being exemplified by the Citizens United political agitation against Hillary Clinton in 2008 - implying that this was a bad decision by the SCOTUS. I suppose CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, NPR, and The Huffington Post aren't examples of "big money" in politics, according to you.

The First Amendment enjoys widespread support across America, mostly among right-wingers and conservatives. As does support for freedom of speech and expression, more broadly.

[kimmy]

Here in Canada our conservative and Conservative prime minister justified the long election campaign by saying that since we were already in a defacto election campaign, making it official to bring campaign finance rules into effect and limit third-party spending was important to ensure a fair election.

Despite what you'd like us to think, many conservatives support campaign spending reform.

Spending limits don't restrict free speech. You're still free to say what you wish, you just don't get to carpet-bomb your opponents into submission by promoting your side 20 times per hour on every station.

You gripe about CNN but neglect to mention Fox News; you gripe about the New York Times but neglect to mention the Wall Street Journal; you gripe about Huffington Post, but neglect to mention Breitbart and WorldNetDaily and NewsMax and Daily Caller and TheBlaze and Townhall and others.

-k

[waldo]

You gripe about CNN but neglect to mention Fox News; you gripe about the New York Times but neglect to mention the Wall Street Journal; you gripe about Huffington Post, but neglect to mention Breitbart and WorldNetDaily and NewsMax and Daily Caller and TheBlaze and Townhall and others.

please! Quit messin' with the 'liberal media' screed/diatribe!

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[WIP]

Here in Canada our conservative and Conservative prime minister justified the long election campaign by saying that since we were already in a defacto election campaign, making it official to bring campaign finance rules into effect and limit third-party spending was important to ensure a fair election.

Despite what you'd like us to think, many conservatives support campaign spending reform.

Spending limits don't restrict free speech. You're still free to say what you wish, you just don't get to carpet-bomb your opponents into submission by promoting your side 20 times per hour on every station.

Our Conservatives have most of the money thanks to doing the bidding of big business, and already believe in that bullshit corporate personhood crap of corporations expressing their "free speech" rights by means of money, so no surprise they don't want to hear anything about limiting money/speech.

I think our election process is too close to the American debacle already...with Harper running low level virtual campaigns in between elections, I can't imagine having to put up with an American size monstrosity that will drag on until November of next year! And that's what they call democracy!

[bush_cheney2004]

....I think our election process is too close to the American debacle already...with Harper running low level virtual campaigns in between elections, I can't imagine having to put up with an American size monstrosity that will drag on until November of next year! And that's what they call democracy!

Go big or go home....I can't imagine having to put up with such a mind numbing, boring campaign process with candidates to match. No wonder so many Canadians pay more attention to the American debacle and would rather vote in U.S. elections.

[Shady]

Our Conservatives have most of the money thanks to doing the bidding of big business, and already believe in that bullshit corporate personhood crap of corporations expressing their "free speech" rights by means of money, so no surprise they don't want to hear anything about limiting money/speech.

I think our election process is too close to the American debacle already...with Harper running low level virtual campaigns in between elections, I can't imagine having to put up with an American size monstrosity that will drag on until November of next year! And that's what they call democracy!

Stalin had most of the money too!

[bush_cheney2004]

Stalin had most of the money too!

Stalin loved elections...he always won ! Clinton wishes she had that kind of adoration.

[On Guard for Thee]

Go big or go home....I can't imagine having to put up with such a mind numbing, boring campaign process with candidates to match. No wonder so many Canadians pay more attention to the American debacle and would rather vote in U.S. elections.

Have you heard of the word delusional?

[WIP]

Have you heard of the word delusional?

He thinks the Presidential Race is a new series on The Apprentice....then again, that's probably what Donald Trump thinks also!

[On Guard for Thee]

He thinks the Presidential Race is a new series on The Apprentice....then again, that's probably what Donald Trump thinks also!

They are both quite comical as long as you don't take them seriously.

[Shady]

More bad news for Hillary Clinton. A new poll shows that the word voters most associate with her is liar.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-liar-frequently-word-hillary-clinton/story?id=33361629

[WIP]

Are the fixers in the Democratic Party going to let Bernie win, now that he's getting close in the polls (7 points down in Iowa)? Or is that why Biden is warming up in the bullpen?

[Argus]

Our Conservatives have most of the money thanks to doing the bidding of big business,

This is an inane and stupid comment, part of the ongoing belief which defies facts, that the Conservatives get their money from big business. In fact, they never have, even when it was legal. It was always he Liberal Party who benefited from corporate coffers. The Conservatives get their money in small donations from a very large base.

[cybercoma]

You're delusional if you don't think corporate brass are making donations in their names, their spouses names, their infant children's names, and their pets' names. That's how they get around the contribution limits. They just put other people's names on the donations.

[Shady]

Clinton staffer pleads the fifth, won't testify.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-email-benghazi-pagliano-213295

[On Guard for Thee]

Clinton staffer pleads the fifth, won't testify.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-email-benghazi-pagliano-213295

Talk about a tempest in a teapot!

[Shady]

More bad news for Hillary.

Trump 45% Clinton 40%

Among registered voters paying attention already

Trump 54% Clinton 36%

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6

[H10]

At this point I'd be surprised if Hilary one, firstly, she seems to have done something grossly illegal with the whole computer scandal, and she will be lucky if she doesn't get arrested in my opinion. Secondly, Sanders is closing in on her, he has the largest rallies save for Donald Trump of any candidate and he is really really popular and well liked. Where Clinton has the right rhetoric, Sanders connects to young people because he has the right actions. And Sanders is either tied or passing or within 10 points of clinton in most the major battle grounds and there hasn't even been a single debate yet. To put this in context, Obama was not even polling this time in 2007, they hadn't even debated. Clinton is going to lose badly.

[GostHacked]

At this point I'd be surprised if Hilary one, firstly, she seems to have done something grossly illegal with the whole computer scandal, and she will be lucky if she doesn't get arrested in my opinion. Secondly, Sanders is closing in on her, he has the largest rallies save for Donald Trump of any candidate and he is really really popular and well liked. Where Clinton has the right rhetoric, Sanders connects to young people because he has the right actions. And Sanders is either tied or passing or within 10 points of clinton in most the major battle grounds and there hasn't even been a single debate yet. To put this in context, Obama was not even polling this time in 2007, they hadn't even debated. Clinton is going to lose badly.

She's been damaged goods since the White Water scandal.

[Shady]

Sanders is now up 7 in New Hampshire.

[WIP]

This is an inane and stupid comment, part of the ongoing belief which defies facts, that the Conservatives get their money from big business. In fact, they never have, even when it was legal. It was always he Liberal Party who benefited from corporate coffers. The Conservatives get their money in small donations from a very large base.

No doubt the Liberals were the banker's party during their salad days, but the new Conservatives are riding a wave of overt and covert oil funding. Last time round: Oil money on the campaign trail

Here in the US Debacle, the big money went overwhelmingly to the Republicans for years, and as union membership dried up in the 70's, and union influence on the Democratic Party declined, Bill Clinton and the "Third Way" Democrats, came up with the brilliant idea of going to most of the same funding sources as the Repubs (except for oil) and quietly setting the stage for today's Neoliberal economic regime, while lying about their intentions to their supporters. The primary reason why Hillary Clinton...coming in to this election armed with vast amounts of money and promises of more money, appears to have lost the base of the Democratic Party is because the average Democrat in the US has watched Democratic presidents, majorities in Congress, state and local governments - betray them on every important economic issue as badly as the Republicans...who do not try to present themselves as friends of working people....let alone minorities!

When Clinton and his Third Way Dems came into Washington in 92, the Democratic Party was even more flush with cash and backdoor promises of private sector payoffs after leaving office, than the Republicans were! So, this crap doesn't seem to be working this time for the Democratic Leadership Council, which will either lose control of the Party or watch it implode as the vast majority of grassroots Democrats are giving the Party one last chance in backing Bernie Sanders's campaign. Not that Sanders is really all that left wing if you check his record, but he would be the only possibility of having a candidate who isn't already owned and sold out his supporters to his financial benefactors (Obama).

[Argus]

No doubt the Liberals were the banker's party during their salad days, but the new Conservatives are riding a wave of overt and covert oil funding. Last time round: Oil money on the campaign trail

Your cite has no information, just insinuations. But even it has to say "But even if it did come from corporations, these numbers are still pretty small in the scheme of things.."

[WIP]

Your cite has no information, just insinuations. But even it has to say "But even if it did come from corporations, these numbers are still pretty small in the scheme of things.."

The biggest bribes and the most egregious corruption is obviously not going to be displayed front and center! Look how much work Greenpeace had to do to trace some of the money that Exxon hands out to the merry band of useful climate-change denying misfits around the world. Front groups are created, front groups within other front groups, many of these liars, like the Korean-born US climate change denying scientist (name escapes me right now) have only been unmasked by their own stupidity...i.e. when they brag about it on stage and didn't consider that their conversation could be recorded.

In politics, favours are handed out like candy to politicians and even top government administrators on leaving office...which are not usually prosecuted unless the payoff is too blatant and obvious, or occurred too quickly after leaving office....such as an incident with a top Liberal MPP in Stoney Creek a few years back, who sold a house for more than twice what he payed for it within a year of the original purchase....to a homebuilder he had regular dealings with while in office. In the US, some of the biggest payoffs aren't coming from the banks or corporate America, but from the Saudi and Gulf States governments, who find ways to reward the US politicians they like once they retire.

The best analysis available of the "revolving door" between government officials going from government to the businesses they supposedly regulate is found at Open Secrets - Revolving Door subheading. The shocking thing is that the US political system has become so corrupted that even when they are exposed, these obvious corporate payoffs are perfectly legal today!

And, if there's one reason why most of us non-Conservatives in this Country are going to ignore whatever crap you have on the NDP or the Libs in our Election, it's because we'll vote for anyone who will unplug the Harpercons before they have the chance to turn this country into US-style "democracy."

[bush_cheney2004]

...The best analysis available of the "revolving door" between government officials going from government to the businesses they supposedly regulate is found at Open Secrets - Revolving Door subheading. The shocking thing is that the US political system has become so corrupted that even when they are exposed, these obvious corporate payoffs are perfectly legal today!

Not shocking at all...that's how it is designed. Don't worry about it....you live in Canada (never happens there, of course)....just continue to watch it on American television.

Edited September 10, 2015 by bush_cheney2004

[kimmy]

Asked about her cozy relationship with Wall Street, Hilary invokes 9/11.

Cheeeee.

-k