On Guard for Thee Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 I'm free so i'm just gonna cross the road without looking because it's the drivers responsibility to stop for me. I'm free so I'm just gonna stroll down east Van with 20$bills taped to my forehead because theft is wrong and the police should arrest thieves. I'm free so i'm gonna tell that big dude at the bar to go fuck himself because assault is against the law, so he won't beat the living daylights out of me. I'm free so I'm just gonna let my daughter play in public without any clothes because the police should arrest pedophiles. Freedom is great, but perspective and self responsibility is also required in this life. Freedom IS great, and so you shouldn't let weak minded paranoia take it away from you. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 Freedom IS great, and so you shouldn't let weak minded paranoia take it away from you. ...or common sense? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 ...or common sense? Common sense is making your 8 year old wear a helmet when they ride their bike. Not allowing your 8 year old to play around a pool topless because you fear there may be a pedophile lurking is paranoia. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 Common sense is making your 8 year old wear a helmet when they ride their bike. Not allowing your 8 year old to play around a pool topless because you fear there may be a pedophile lurking is paranoia. Are you sure that wearing helmets isn't some sort of assault on freedom too. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Are you sure that wearing helmets isn't some sort of assault on freedom too. Yeah Im pretty sure. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 Well, i guess next time i hear of some sicko creep taking pictures of naked kids, i'll just shrug my shoulders because if the parents are OK with creeps jerking off to pictures of their children - fair enough. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Well, i guess next time i hear of some sicko creep taking pictures of naked kids, i'll just shrug my shoulders because if the parents are OK with creeps jerking off to pictures of their children - fair enough. You seem to rather enjoy your graphic description. That in itself could be a little scary. Quote
Big Guy Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 I look at the issue of one of how the parents want to deal with the question of modesty and self worth. All parents have the responsibility to prepare their child for interaction in society. The child develops a morality, ethics and self worth through the actions, and example of the parents. As a parent, you can usually see yourself in how your child reacts. I feel each to his own. I would not to try instill my sense of morality or decency on others nor would I accept others trying to do it to my child. Personally, if I was in that pool and my 8 year old daughter asked me why that girl can go topless but she is not allowed to do so I would say that her parents are not very smart. And I still think those parents are not very smart. Read the sign, adapt or leave. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
msj Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 If I were, say, at the water park with my sister in law and my niece, and we noticed some guy taking pictures of the children, whether the children were topless or not, we would whip out our phones and take video of him and pictures and then tell him we are going to have a chat with police and/or will be posting pictures of him around the water park with a warning to "watch for this man taking pictures of your children." Yes, this may be little more than empty legal threats but this is about the only recourse one can have since taking pictures of children is not exactly a crime in and of itself. I was in Port Alberni yesterday and noticed the CTV crew near the water park. Can't say I blame them since my car told me it was 34c. But who knows what they do with the footage after: if I was paranoid I could dream up all kinds of scenarios I'm sure. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Hal 9000 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) If I were, say, at the water park with my sister in law and my niece, and we noticed some guy taking pictures of the children, whether the children were topless or not, we would whip out our phones and take video of him and pictures and then tell him we are going to have a chat with police and/or will be posting pictures of him around the water park with a warning to "watch for this man taking pictures of your children." Yes, this may be little more than empty legal threats but this is about the only recourse one can have since taking pictures of children is not exactly a crime in and of itself. I was in Port Alberni yesterday and noticed the CTV crew near the water park. Can't say I blame them since my car told me it was 34c. But who knows what they do with the footage after: if I was paranoid I could dream up all kinds of scenarios I'm sure. You don't have to be paranoid to use common sense. Why does anyone buy or possess nudie pictures? It seems pretty obvious to me. Edited June 27, 2015 by Hal 9000 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 You don't have to be paranoid to use common sense. Why does anyone buy or possess nudie pictures? It seems pretty obvious to me. Not sure where you are trying to go with that...are you saying anyone who ever thumbed through a Playboy is somehow dangerous. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 Not sure where you are trying to go with that...are you saying anyone who ever thumbed through a Playboy is somehow dangerous. "If" you don't what I'm saying, then you're possibly the stupidest person on this site. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 "If" you don't what I'm saying, then you're possibly the stupidest person on this site. That doesnt do much as far as explaining a stupid comment. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 That doesnt do much as far as explaining a stupid comment. "Why does anyone buy or possess nudie pictures?" It's a simple question, Why does anyone buy or possess nudie pictures? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 "Why does anyone buy or possess nudie pictures?" It's a simple question, Why does anyone buy or possess nudie pictures? People watch porno movies too but they don't go out and stalk 8 year olds at swimming pools. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 People watch porno movies too but they don't go out and stalk 8 year olds at swimming pools. Why does anyone buy or possess nudie pictures? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Why does anyone buy or possess nudie pictures? Im not sure exactly what your implication is with what you are calling nudie pictures. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 Good grief, I'm sorry! You really don't know, do you? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Canada_First Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 Minors are unable to make legal decisions for themselves so this is no different. We have laws to protect minors....often times from themselves. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 Minors are unable to make legal decisions for themselves so this is no different. We have laws to protect minors....often times from themselves. ....and their parents Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
cybercoma Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 Minors are unable to make legal decisions for themselves so this is no different. We have laws to protect minors....often times from themselves. And guess what. Those laws in Ontario say that men and women of any age can be topless in public. Quote
msj Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 ....and their parents Boy, wish we had/have laws that would protect kids from their parents. You know, like genital mutilation for which infant sons have some skin cut off because, religion. But no, that's ok for cultural/religious reasons but heaven forbid if a girl shows her bare chest while it's perfectly okay for a boy to show his bare nipples. Crazy world we live in. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Hal 9000 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Report Posted June 28, 2015 Boy, wish we had/have laws that would protect kids from their parents. You know, like genital mutilation for which infant sons have some skin cut off because, religion. But no, that's ok for cultural/religious reasons but heaven forbid if a girl shows her bare chest while it's perfectly okay for a boy to show his bare nipples. Crazy world we live in. WTF are you talking about? You can't win the actual argument so you choose the default religion argument - I'm not religious, sorry! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
msj Posted June 28, 2015 Report Posted June 28, 2015 This is not about you. This is about the "if only parents would look after their children" nonsense argument you put forth. Lots of parents don't do what is best for their sons within the first 3 days of them being born for cultural religious reasons. A fine example contra your point that we need laws protecting kids from their parents. Now that is a law I could get behind. Having a girl or boy go bare chested pales in comparison. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Hal 9000 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Report Posted June 28, 2015 This is not about you. This is about the "if only parents would look after their children" nonsense argument you put forth. Lots of parents don't do what is best for their sons within the first 3 days of them being born for cultural religious reasons. A fine example contra your point that we need laws protecting kids from their parents. Now that is a law I could get behind. Having a girl or boy go bare chested pales in comparison. Ummm.... Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
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