Je suis Omar Posted May 30, 2015 Report Posted May 30, 2015 The world's largest terrorist organization/nation, the USA is providing support to Israel in its ongoing war crimes and terrorist actions against Palestinians. Thank dog for Edward Snowden. Israel-Gaza conflict: New Snowden leak reveals extent of US intelligence co-operation with Israel Israel could be using US intelligence and equipment in its offensive in the Gaza Strip, according to leaked document. A top secret report by the American National Security Agency (NSA) provided by Edward Snowden was published on Monday by The Intercept. The document, dated 13 April 2013, describes the NSAs far-reaching technical and analytic relationship with the Israeli SIGINT National Unit (ISNU) sharing information on access, intercept, targeting, language, analysis and reporting. It says the co-operation has expanded to include other Israeli and US intelligence organisations including the CIA, American Special Operations Division and Israeli intelligence agency Mossad. Targets for both America and Israel are listed as the countries of North Africa, the Middle East, the Persian Gulf, South Asia, and the Islamic republics of the former Soviet Union. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-new-snowden-leak-reveals-extent-of-us-intelligence-cooperation-with-israel-9647621.html?origin=internalSearch The idea that the USA is trying to help that situation, trying to broker a fair deal is fatuous in the extreme. The USA is helping Israel do what it has long planned, stall stall stall, all the while squeezing Palestinians in a genocidal grip. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 30, 2015 Report Posted May 30, 2015 That's what the USA is supposed to do for Israel. They are allied nations, just like Canada...which uses a lot of American intel resources. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Freddy Posted May 30, 2015 Report Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) The world's largest terrorist organization/nation, the USA is providing support to Israel in its ongoing war crimes and terrorist actions against Palestinians. Thank dog for Edward Snowden. The idea that the USA is trying to help that situation, trying to broker a fair deal is fatuous in the extreme. The USA is helping Israel do what it has long planned, stall stall stall, all the while squeezing Palestinians in a genocidal grip. the Canadian are helping too. Edited May 30, 2015 by Freddy Quote
Topaz Posted May 30, 2015 Report Posted May 30, 2015 There are articles on the net also, that state the rebels who are fighting Syria when hurt are treated in Israel and when well, they go off and join ISIS and that US planes have been seen dropping supplies to ISIS. Also, both countries want to have ME countries go to war with each other, so control can be had easier by the two countries, which both countries being so strong militarily, why is it taking so long to fight ISIS. Very confusing issue. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 30, 2015 Report Posted May 30, 2015 Not confusing for Israel....the strongest democracy in the region. Why hasn't ISIS attacked Israel ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) The world's largest terrorist organization/nation, the USA is providing support to Israel in its ongoing war crimes and terrorist actions against Palestinians. Apparently fighting back against a war or jihad is your definition of "war crimes and terrorist actions." Edited June 1, 2015 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Rue Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 Bush Isis interestingly has engaged Israelis in Gaza and the West Bank with and through its affliation with Hamas. Its also had contact in Syrua and Jordan. You won't see that admitted for political reasons. Israel keeps its activities quiet so as not to fuel unintended Sunni support against Saudi Arabia,Egypt, Jordan. Israel has been forced several times to intervene near its Syrian and West Bank borders and off its coast but you won' ever see it admitted. Israel is in a no win situation.It considers all parties in the current war between Isil and Syria suspect.It has no allies anymore. It has temporary understandings with Egypt, Saudi Arabia,Jordan,Kuwait, UAE but its military alliance with US was compromised by Obama leaking security to Iran on forward IAF bases outside Israel. Intelligence exchanges have all but been severed between the two except for ground info in Iraq and Syria. That won't change until Obama is gone and the current US Amed Forces,sea,air andland operations are not handcuffed by Obama preventing them from placing the USMC on the ground in certain zones in Iraq. The USMC has been neutralized under the pretext of an air war beng a better alternative and with the argument Iraq is another Vietnam. Iraq is not another Vietnam. It has no ground cover. In fact a properly managed hit and run campaign with the USMC and specialized small mobile commando units would be effective operating in the night cover with silent helicopters. Obama will not allow it. Obama can not stand his own armed forces. He wouldn't even show up for a memorial service on Memorial day in Washington with his joint Chiefs of Staff.That was as low as it gets. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Apparently fighting back against a war or jihad is your definition of "war crimes and terrorist actions."It's so ridiculous, so utterly lacking in common sense to suggest that the world's foremost terrorist nation, the USA, after raping and pillaging most of the poor countries of the world, some more than once, is now, in this one instance, on the side of righteousness. But still, there are some who try to advance this ludicrous notion. Edited June 1, 2015 by Je suis Omar Quote
BubberMiley Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 He wouldn't even show up for a memorial service on Memorial day in Washington with his joint Chiefs of Staff.That was as low as it gets. Not even close! The lowest someone can get is lying about how Obama wasn't at the memorial service on Memorial Day when he clearly was. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 ....But still, there are some who try to advance this ludicrous notion. Why mess with a good thing ? The USA is Israel's BFF. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 It's so ridiculous, so utterly lacking in common sense to suggest that the world's foremost terrorist nation, the USA, after raping and pillaging most of the poor countries of the world, some more than once, is now, in this one instance, on the side of righteousness. But still, there are some who try to advance this ludicrous notion. Your overwrought rhetoric proves nothing. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Je suis Omar Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Posted June 1, 2015 Your overwrought rhetoric proves nothing. It has proven just how frightened you are of exposing yourself to the truth. Quote
jbg Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 It has proven just how frightened you are of exposing yourself to the truth. Your posts are vewy scawy. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Je suis Omar Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Gaza (along with the West Bank and East Jerusalem) is occupied Palestinian territory under international law, determined by the vast majority of the world, as well as the highest court in the world, the UNs International Court of Justice. Gaza cannot commit aggression against Israel, since Israel is in constant and continual commission of illegal aggression against Palestine by occupying it (illegally and sadistically blockading it and frequently committing terrorism against its civilians, including by targeting them with chemical weapons provided by US taxpayers see Rain of Fire by Human Rights Watch). As documented by Amnesty Intl, Human Rights Watch, and many others, Israel intentionally targets and murders civilians, including children, en masse. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/facts-us-citizens-need-know-israel-palestine.html Edited June 1, 2015 by Je suis Omar Quote
jbg Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 [+quote=] Gaza (along with the West Bank and East Jerusalem) is occupied Palestinian territory under international law, determined by the vast majority of the world, as well as the highest court in the world, the UNs International Court of Justice. Gaza cannot commit aggression against Israel, since Israel is in constant and continual commission of illegal aggression against Palestine by occupying it (illegally and sadistically blockading it and frequently committing terrorism against its civilians, including by targeting them with chemical weapons provided by US taxpayers see Rain of Fire by Human Rights Watch). As documented by Amnesty Intl, Human Rights Watch, and many others, Israel intentionally targets and murders civilians, including children, en masse. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/facts-us-citizens-need-know-israel-palestine.html I don't know what your unclosed quote referenced. Israel does not have to accept the determinations or adjudications of organizations with an automatic Muslim or Communist majority. It he International Criminal Court or similar tribunals, or "Amnesty Int’l, Human Rights Watch, and many others" are making the determinations Israel cannot prevail, no matter what the merits. But since you don't consider Jewish Israel a legitimate country I guess that's just what you have in mind. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Je suis Omar Posted June 2, 2015 Author Report Posted June 2, 2015 Since the year 2000, Israel has killed 1,500 Palestinian children, while Palestinians have killed 132 Israeli children. That means Israel has killed over 1,000% percent more Palestinian children than vice versa. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/facts-us-citizens-need-know-israel-palestine.html And remember that Israel is illegally occupying others land. Quote
jbg Posted June 2, 2015 Report Posted June 2, 2015 And remember that Israel is illegally occupying others land. And in your book that illegal occupation started on May 14, 1948? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Je suis Omar Posted June 2, 2015 Author Report Posted June 2, 2015 Facts All US Citizens Need to Know About Israel and Palestine In 1948, the people who wanted to form a Jewish state carried out a massive terror and ethnic cleansing campaign against the occupants of Palestine, expelling about half of them (750,000) from their land and into concentrated areas (Gaza and West Bank). Israel has slowly continued colonizing even those areas, which were specifically reserved by the UN for Palestinians. Israel takes all the best land and resources, such as water. Here is a visualization of what has happened, and is currently happening with massive support from Obama: (See maps showing Israeli theft of land over time) http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/facts-us-citizens-need-know-israel-palestine.html Quote
jbg Posted June 3, 2015 Report Posted June 3, 2015 Maybe the time to have settled up with the Jews was 1946, before the Jews had to gain independence forcibly? The total rejection of any Jewish state triggered the Palestinians' world of hurt. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jacee Posted June 3, 2015 Report Posted June 3, 2015 Maybe the time to have settled up with the Jews was 1946, before the Jews had to gain independence forcibly? The total rejection of any Jewish state triggered the Palestinians' world of hurt. Well that time is long gone. So what now? Just keep bombing them out of existence? Committing genocide? Is that the full extent of Israel's intelligence in coming up with a solution? . Quote
GostHacked Posted June 3, 2015 Report Posted June 3, 2015 And in your book that illegal occupation started on May 14, 1948? What IS your stance on the Jewish settlements in the occupied territories? Quote
Topaz Posted June 3, 2015 Report Posted June 3, 2015 Israel may have more concerns with the news saying that ISIS is nearing their border, this should be interesting to see what NATO will do about this especially the USA and Canada. Quote
Rue Posted June 3, 2015 Report Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) I doubt this forum goes more than 3 months without the map Jacee pulled out being used over and over again. The map has been repudiate over and over and out it comes yet again and one must ask you Jacee, after all this time, is that it-do we repeat the same stale-dated arguments over and over especially to JBG who responded to you on this map ad nauseum? This circular baiting, to what avail is it? Have you achieved victory over your Zionist foe? Then we have you Ghost posing a question to JBG you already have been given the answer to, over and over by him. The m.o. of using an inflammatory anti American-Israeli thread title and then the steering away from it to simply another piss on Israel for existing series of exchanges-you haven't worn that one out? Really? How stained does one's underwear have to get to wash them with you guys? What has it done for you? You throw out the bait out and wait to see who nibbles but all you get these days is the same old Jewfish spitting back out your bait. Did you really think you would attract any other kind of fish? Really? If your intend is to troll for something more tasty try using a new kind of bait. Your rancid bacon chunks aint working. You might try some lox. Edited June 3, 2015 by Rue Quote
Je suis Omar Posted June 3, 2015 Author Report Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) I? Have you achieved victory over your Zionist foes? You might try some lox. There's no foes. There's simply folks pointing out the false narrative coming from folks like you, jbg and others. Folks pointing out the ongoing terrorist actions, the war crimes committed by Israel against the people of Palestine. Supported by the equally culpable USA. According to a landmark, comprehensive study of all of Israels wars, by Zeev Maoz, Professor of Political Science at the University of California, Davis, former head of the Graduate School of Government and Policy and of the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies at Tel Aviv University, and former academic director of the M.A. Program at the Israeli Defense Forces National Defense College: . most of the wars in which Israel was involved were the result of deliberate Israeli aggressive design . None of these wars with the possible exception of the 1948 War of independence was what Israel refers to as Milhemet Ein Berah (war of necessity). They were all wars of choice . Defending the Holy Land, pg. 35, (bold added) http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/facts-us-citizens-need-know-israel-palestine.html Edited June 3, 2015 by Je suis Omar Quote
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