Je suis Omar Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 How many forests did the ice ages destroy? 4 billion years ago the planet could not support life on land, however, over millions of years waste product of an algae changed the composition of the atmosphere enough that life on land could emerge. Was it wrong for this algae to do this? What's meaningless about a little graphic that was full of meaning? A graphic that made clear, so that everyone could understand the impact that humans have had. An impact that can be attributed to a tiny segment of humanity, over a very short period of time. [Full disclosure: I haven't checked the math] Does the truth create so much consternation in you that you have to wipe it from your view? And completely setting aside the time issues, comparing glaciers and algae to humans! Quote
Smallc Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 What, small c doesn't strike you as being somewhat on the stuffy and stodgy side, not even a little? At 26 I don't think so. I just refuse to live in a fantasy. Quote
Freddy Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) If there wasn't any laws on bad behaviour like killing other humans, do you think our human population would be out of control like it is now?Like I've stated before, Maybe bad behaviours has its purpose. Edited May 24, 2015 by Freddy Quote
jacee Posted May 24, 2015 Author Report Posted May 24, 2015 If there wasn't any laws on bad behaviour like killing other humans, do you think our human population would be out of control like it is now? Like I've stated before, Maybe bad behaviours has its purpose. Are you really saying there should be no laws against mass murder because we need population control? Do you really expect to be taken seriously? . Quote
Freddy Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 Are you really saying there should be no laws against mass murder because we need population control? Do you really expect to be taken seriously? . If that's what you understood from what I'm saying, I find it hard to take you seriously. Lack of population control will destroy the planet. Let me return to you your brilliant reply. Are you saying you are in favour of destroying this planet? Quote
TimG Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 A graphic that made clear, so that everyone could understand the impact that humans have had. An impact that can be attributed to a tiny segment of humanity, over a very short period of time.An impact which is as large as numerous other species over time over the course of history. Also, are you are even aware that once a human society reaches a certain level of wealth the forest cover grows? Over the last century the amount of forested land has been increasing in all developed countries. One of the key factors in this recover are the use of more efficient energy sources such as fossil fuels, large scale hydro and nuclear. The use of "biofuels" destroys forests (most poor countries rely on biofuels). Quote
Accountability Now Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 In international law they are Indigenous Nations within the state of Canada. In Harper law, Quebecois are a nation of people within Canada. They are all Canadians. . Nope. Québéc can claim they're not a part of Canada but until a referendum comes back to support this notion AND they actually leave then they are a part. First Nations on the other hand claim and act as though they aren't a part of Canada. They act in 'nation to nation' agreements and expect is to honor treaties between two nations. That mindset certainly shows they are not part of Canada. Of course in this situation there are no treaties so why should our nation help them? Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 Nope. Québéc can claim they're not a part of Canada but until a referendum comes back to support this notion AND they actually leave then they are a part. First Nations on the other hand claim and act as though they aren't a part of Canada. They act in 'nation to nation' agreements and expect is to honor treaties between two nations. That mindset certainly shows they are not part of Canada. Of course in this situation there are no treaties so why should our nation help them? I wonder how your nationality grouping would react to a century of genocidal Canadian government policies supported by citizens like you. Quote
Accountability Now Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 I wonder how your nationality grouping would react to a century of genocidal Canadian government policies supported by citizens like you. It's up to the individual to respond to the situation, not the group. In fact in this situation, the people going with the group seem to get brought down whereas the individuals who choose to move on do so. I am not speaking about Canadians not accepting First Nations as Canadadians....rather it's the First Nations who don't want to be part of Canada. So if that's the case then why should they expect anything from Canada other than what's in the treaties? Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 I am not speaking about Canadians not accepting First Nations as Canadadians....rather it's the First Nations who don't want to be part of Canada. That illustrates an "uniformedness" that is the equal of your comments in your previous post. Quote
Accountability Now Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 That illustrates an "uniformedness" that is the equal of your comments in your previous post.You're right. It's not that they don't want to be a part of Canada, rather they already consider themselves a nation(s) separate from Canada. To them Canada is one nation and they are other nations all reporting to the Crown. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 You're right. It's not that they don't want to be a part of Canada, rather they already consider themselves a nation(s) separate from Canada. To them Canada is one nation and they are other nations all reporting to the Crown. That illustrates an "uniformedness" that is the equal of your comments in your previous post. Quote
Accountability Now Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 That illustrates an "uniformedness" that is the equal of your comments in your previous post.Clearly you have nothing to say. Quote
jacee Posted May 24, 2015 Author Report Posted May 24, 2015 You're right. It's not that they don't want to be a part of Canada, rather they already consider themselves a nation(s) separate from Canada. To them Canada is one nation and they are other nations all reporting to the Crown. Just to repeat what you ignored ... in international law Indigenous Nations exist within states. In Canada, so does the Quebecois nation. . Quote
Accountability Now Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 Just to repeat what you ignored ... in international law Indigenous Nations exist within states. In Canada, so does the Quebecois nation. . Didn't ignore anything. International law recognizes indigenous rights....not indigenous nations. We've already seen this when the Iroqoius lacrosse players tried using their Iroqoius passports to get into England. Denied! Quote
overthere Posted May 25, 2015 Report Posted May 25, 2015 You're right. It's not that they don't want to be a part of Canada, rather they already consider themselves a nation(s) separate from Canada. To them Canada is one nation and they are other nations all reporting to the Crown. Ummm no. First Nations do not think of themselves as 'reporting to The Crown'. Negotiating , yes. Reporting, no. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Accountability Now Posted May 25, 2015 Report Posted May 25, 2015 Ummm no. First Nations do not think of themselves as 'reporting to The Crown'. Negotiating , yes. Reporting, no. Reporting....dealing with....negotiating with.....in any of these cases, they don't view Canada as the group to do any of these with since they didn't make the deal with Canada. Hence why they still write to the Queen asking her to intervene. Quote
PIK Posted May 25, 2015 Report Posted May 25, 2015 And sens nation and leaf nation, everybody has its own nation. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
jacee Posted May 25, 2015 Author Report Posted May 25, 2015 Reporting....dealing with....negotiating with.....in any of these cases, they don't view Canada as the group to do any of these with since they didn't make the deal with Canada. Hence why they still write to the Queen asking her to intervene. Yes, as allies of the Crown. Canada generally is responsible for the 'duties of the Crown' within Canada, but appeals may sometimes be made to the monarch. Legally, in international law, Indigenous nations exist within states - ie, within Canada and other 'states' around the world - with recognition of their rights as Indigenous Peoples. . Quote
Accountability Now Posted May 25, 2015 Report Posted May 25, 2015 Legally, in international law, Indigenous nations exist within states - ie, within Canada and other 'states' around the world - with recognition of their rights as Indigenous Peoples. Step up and prove that 'International Law' recongnizes the First Nations as nations similar to Canada, the US, England or other nations that are recognized as such. Also, since you dodged it once I'll ask again....why are First Nations passports not accepted overseas if the "international' community recognizes them? Quote
Civis Romanus sum Posted May 25, 2015 Report Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Just to repeat what you ignored ... in international law Indigenous Nations exist within states. In Canada, so does the Quebecois nation. . Are you really taking the unbelievably stupid position that the French are indigenous? Edited May 25, 2015 by Civis Romanus sum Quote
Civis Romanus sum Posted May 25, 2015 Report Posted May 25, 2015 Yes, as allies of the Crown. As in Canada makes money and the indigenous nations hold their hands out for welfare? Quote
jacee Posted May 26, 2015 Author Report Posted May 26, 2015 Are you really taking the unbelievably stupid position that the French are indigenous?I am taking the position that Canada includes recognized nations of people within it.. Quote
PIK Posted May 26, 2015 Report Posted May 26, 2015 What bothers me was a guy who would not stand for the anthem at a hockey game ,because he said he was not Canadian but native. What was funny was the look on his face when another said I bet you are Canadian at the end of every month. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Accountability Now Posted May 26, 2015 Report Posted May 26, 2015 I am taking the position that Canada includes recognized nations of people within it. . You are taking that position but doing nothing to substantiate it. As per my request above: Step up and prove that 'International Law' recongnizes the First Nations as nations similar to Canada, the US, England or other nations that are recognized as such. Also, since you dodged it once I'll ask again....why are First Nations passports not accepted overseas if the "international' community recognizes them? Quote
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