Jump to content

US ambassador can't get his calls answered.


Recommended Posts

Was an interesting story in the Globe today, to the effect US/Canada relations are so bad the US ambassador can't get to meet or talk to Canadian officials, and has never had a one on one meeting with Harper. Whether it's the ambassador or more likely a combination of him and his idiotic president, relations between the US and Canada have seldom been worse. There was no 'Three Amigos" summit this year and won't be until he's gone.

Mind you ,Obama doesn't seem to have good relationships with... well anyone. From what I've read nobody in Europe much likes him and all the US's closest allies, the British, French and Germans to say nothing of the Israelis, are simply waiting for him to go.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/how-ottawa-left-us-ambassador-bruce-heyman-out-in-the-cold/article23514669/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 108
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Heyman (and by extension Obama) have to take the loin's share of the blame on this. In the initial meeting with Baird, Heyman was told what the biggest areas of concern were for Canada so that future meeting could be scheduled around them. Heyman is the one who said those things were not open for discussion. There's no point in any further meetings until that situation changes from the American side.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah and guess who cancelled the meeting, that would be our idiotic PM, probably throwing another snit over the XL pipeline. Didnt even bother to explain anything to the other 2 amigos. Typical.

You would think after everything we've done in Iraq, with Russia, and with Cuba, we could get a simple pipeline approved.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Heyman (and by extension Obama) have to take the loin's share of the blame on this. In the initial meeting with Baird, Heyman was told what the biggest areas of concern were for Canada so that future meeting could be scheduled around them. Heyman is the one who said those things were not open for discussion. There's no point in any further meetings until that situation changes from the American side.

Harper knew he could go no further with XL and he didnt want to face pressure from Mexico over visas, so he pulled the plug.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Do you really think the TWO are not talking? If Harper and Obama cut off any communication, then how did Canada get involved in the ME war when the US is the leader??? I think it has more to do with taking the attention off the NAU, which many are against. Of course, I could be wrong and Obama has realized what many Canadians know about Harper.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Obama treats his allies like his enemies, and his enemies like his allies. It's the bizarro-world presidency. I'm sure we'll be glad to see him go, as will many others. Germany, England, Poland, and several allies in the Middle East, including Israel.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Obama treats his allies like his enemies, and his enemies like his allies. It's the bizarro-world presidency. I'm sure we'll be glad to see him go, as will many others. Germany, England, Poland, and several allies in the Middle East, including Israel.

And I suppose your ilk is hoping for the likes of Ted Cruz as a replacement.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

And I suppose your ilk is hoping for the likes of Ted Cruz as a replacement.

I'm no fan of the tea party but Obama has clearly been a big disappointment, not just to a lot of Americans, but to America's closest allies.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm no fan of the tea party but Obama has clearly been a big disappointment, not just to a lot of Americans, but to America's closest allies.

Yeah but look at the **** show Bush left him in the first place, and now he has to try and get things done with a bunch of right wing nutters controlling both sides of the aisle in congress. Edited by Michael Hardner
Profanity
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah but look at the shit show Bush left him in the first place, and now he has to try and get things done with a bunch of right wing nutters controlling both sides of the aisle in congress.

Blaming Bush 6 years later is pretty pathetic. As is blaming lack of control of congress. Obama had massive majorities in both houses of congress for two years, and did very little with it. He's just not a very good leader and executive. Sorry.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Blaming Bush 6 years later is pretty pathetic. As is blaming lack of control of congress. Obama had massive majorities in both houses of congress for two years, and did very little with it. He's just not a very good leader and executive. Sorry.

He had a majority for 2 years and he passed a massive stimulus bill and brought in his health care program, so actually he did a lot. Not to mention inheriting 2 wars and a huge deficit. Then the good squad took over the house in 2011 and grid locked everything since. There is what you should be sorry about.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

He had a majority for 2 years and he passed a massive stimulus bill and brought in his health care program, so actually he did a lot. Not to mention inheriting 2 wars and a huge deficit. Then the good squad took over the house in 2011 and grid locked everything since. There is what you should be sorry about.

Yes we all know. A massive stimulus bill crammed with a bunch of crap that did nothing, and a health care program that's been delayed year after year. His deficits, not Bush's are the largest on record, and HE, will add more debt when he leaves office than ALL previous presidents COMBINED. He didn't end anything in Iraq as we've recently seen. In fact his reckless complete withdrawal squandered all of the gains that had been made, and his venture in Afghanistan is on-going. Not to mention his new wars, like in Libya, which have been a complete and utter disaster, as well as in Egypt.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah but look at the **** show Bush left him in the first place, and now he has to try and get things done with a bunch of right wing nutters controlling both sides of the aisle in congress.

The thing is, relations with US allies hav deteriorated, not gotten better. Obama's first ambassador to Canada used to go snowshoeing with Harper's wife. The current one can't get anywhere near Harper or his ministers.

Edited by Argus
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The thing is, relations with US allies hav deteriorated, not gotten better. Obama's first ambassador to Canada used to go snowshoeing with Harper's wife. The current one can't get anywhere near Harper or his ministers.

Exactly. Relations with pretty much all of the usual allies have deteriorated for one reason or another. It's really odd.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes we all know. A massive stimulus bill crammed with a bunch of crap that did nothing, and a health care program that's been delayed year after year. His deficits, not Bush's are the largest on record, and HE, will add more debt when he leaves office than ALL previous presidents COMBINED. He didn't end anything in Iraq as we've recently seen. In fact his reckless complete withdrawal squandered all of the gains that had been made, and his venture in Afghanistan is on-going. Not to mention his new wars, like in Libya, which have been a complete and utter disaster, as well as in Egypt.

Most economic indicators conclude the stimulus package was successful, he had 2 wars handed to him to keep paying for, the right wing keeps fighting his healthcare, which also turning out to be successful. We know you like to bash Obama but dont get jaded about it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Most economic indicators conclude the stimulus package was successful, he had 2 wars handed to him to keep paying for, the right wing keeps fighting his healthcare, which also turning out to be successful. We know you like to bash Obama but dont get jaded about it.

I'm not going to contribute to thread drift. This is about the deteriorate of relations with all allies under the Obama administration.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Tell a friend

    Love Repolitics.com - Political Discussion Forums? Tell a friend!
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      10,741
    • Most Online
      1,403

    Newest Member
    timwilson
    Joined
  • Recent Achievements

    • User earned a badge
      Posting Machine
    • User earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • User went up a rank
      Proficient
    • Videospirit earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Videospirit went up a rank
      Explorer
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...