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Yes, usually that's the art of the deal. You give up something to get something. Regardless of who you think is a douch or a turd, a vote is better than no vote at all. Heck, primary voters might reject her again and go with somebody else.

You already have given up a lot if your only two choices are between a douche or a turd.

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There's rarely even any neutral ground

If I had a vote for every time some dweeb refers to Trudeau or Chretien when I diss Harper I'd constitute a one-man voting bloc and be a real force to reckon with in a pizza government.

As it happens, in this context both Trudeau and Chretien had generally shitty relations with US presidents. Trudeau had a distinctly different view from the US on foreign policy, Chretien had no discernible policy in general, part of his 'do-nothing' approach. Harper is somewhere in between- more outspoken but generally in tune with our allies.

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Nope. First it depends if the state has primaries or caucus. In either case they elect delegates who then select their parties nominee. And the the electoral college selects the president anyway.

None of that disproves what I said.
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Just corrects it.

Not really, although I appreciate the input. There are very few caucus states. The vast majority are primary process. Many have open primary, where any registered voter can participate. Democrat, Republican, or Independent.

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Not really, although I appreciate the input. There are very few caucus states. The vast majority are primary process. Many have open primary, where any registered voter can participate. Democrat, Republican, or Independent.

Who elect delegates who in turn select nominees. Done by the party as GH suggested earlier.

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What does gerrymandering have to do with primary or presidential elections?

That's ok if you do not understand what that means and how it can affect presidential elections. Then again, yer man Bush got to the White House via a Florida court and not the election process.

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That's ok if you do not understand what that means and how it can affect presidential elections. Then again, yer man Bush got to the White House via a Florida court and not the election process.

Please explain how gerrymandering impacts electing a president, governor or senator. Popular vote elects governors, senators and awards states to presidential candidates. What does it matter what district a vote comes from in a particular state? Do you even know what gerrymandering is?

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Please explain how gerrymandering impacts electing a president, governor or senator. Popular vote elects governors, senators and awards states to presidential candidates. What does it matter what district a vote comes from in a particular state? Do you even know what gerrymandering is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

"In the process of setting electoral districts, gerrymandering is a practice that attempts to establish a political advantage for a particular party or group by manipulating district boundaries to create partisan advantaged districts. The resulting district apportionment is known as a gerrymander (/ˈɛriˌmændər/); however, that word can also refer to the process. When used to allege that a given party is gaining disproportionate power, the term gerrymandering has negative connotations."

Come on Shady, there are obtuse angles, and then there is you.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

"In the process of setting electoral districts, gerrymandering is a practice that attempts to establish a political advantage for a particular party or group by manipulating district boundaries to create partisan advantaged districts. The resulting district apportionment is known as a gerrymander (/ˈɛriˌmændər/); however, that word can also refer to the process. When used to allege that a given party is gaining disproportionate power, the term gerrymandering has negative connotations."

Come on Shady, there are obtuse angles, and then there is you.

Like I said, please explain how that would effect a primary vote, a vote for governor, or senator, or even president? Which district a vote comes from doesn't matter. You're just digging yourself a hole.

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What does gerrymandering have to do with primary or presidential elections?

A lot of constituencies have been gerrymandered down to such a fine degree that it's virtually impossible for a democrat to win. This means the Republican primary (and in some cases the Democratic primary) becomes the defacto election. The rise of the Tea Party is largely based on the gerrymandering which has created rock solid Republican districts which allow almost any kind of lunatic to be elected as long as they're a Republican. So you take some far right loonie with silly ideas, but money behind him, well, all he has to do is convince enough people to support him in a primary (which are notoriously poorly attended). In some states less than 10% of eligible registered voters vote in primaries. This leaves them rife to be influenced by a small, determined band who can get their supporters out (ie, far right Christians). Once they're the Republican candidate, they're virtually a shoe-in to win the following election.

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A lot of constituencies have been gerrymandered down to such a fine degree that it's virtually impossible for a democrat to win. This means the Republican primary (and in some cases the Democratic primary) becomes the defacto election. The rise of the Tea Party is largely based on the gerrymandering which has created rock solid Republican districts which allow almost any kind of lunatic to be elected as long as they're a Republican. So you take some far right loonie with silly ideas, but money behind him, well, all he has to do is convince enough people to support him in a primary (which are notoriously poorly attended). In some states less than 10% of eligible registered voters vote in primaries. This leaves them rife to be influenced by a small, determined band who can get their supporters out (ie, far right Christians). Once they're the Republican candidate, they're virtually a shoe-in to win the following election.

You're absolutely correct that gerrymandering can impact elections for the House of Representatives. But it has absolutely no impact on elections for governors, senators, and presidents. That's the point I was trying to get across to GH. But for some reason he was having trouble understanding.

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You're absolutely correct that gerrymandering can impact elections for the House of Representatives. But it has absolutely no impact on elections for governors, senators, and presidents.

Not necessarily true.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/171690/gops-new-voter-suppression-strategy-gerrymander-electoral-college#

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