Shady Posted March 10, 2015 Report Posted March 10, 2015 The issue has to do with 47 senators breaking the law, have you not been paying attention. They have no broken the law. You're not much of an authority anyways, considering the whole officer Wilson fiasco. Stop pretending to be a lawyer. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 10, 2015 Report Posted March 10, 2015 Stick to the issue at hand. His unconstitutional power grab of an Iranian deal without ratification of congress. Congress has explicit foreign policy oversignt, and treaty approval. Insisting on purposely leaving out congress is the precursor to this letter. Actions have consequences. There's bi-partisan agreement in congress regarding a nuclear deal with Iran. Imperial president Obama refuses to acknowledge that fact. He has no authority to do so. Just another example of him shitting on the constitution yet again. Like Bush with the PATRIOT Act. Fine time for you to care about the constitution. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Posted March 10, 2015 They have no broken the law. You're not much of an authority anyways, considering the whole officer Wilson fiasco. Stop pretending to be a lawyer. LOL! Yeah...everybody is an expert on U.S. federal law and constitution. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Black Dog Posted March 10, 2015 Report Posted March 10, 2015 Stick to the issue at hand. His unconstitutional power grab of an Iranian deal without ratification of congress. The Senate does not ratify treaties. It is supposed to provide “advice and consent” to the president in the making of treaties, and must “consent” by a two-thirds majority if the treaty provisions are to become binding (U.S. Const., art. II, sec. 2.). It is the president who ratifies the treaty if the Senate consents. Actions have consequences. There's bi-partisan agreement in congress regarding a nuclear deal with Iran. Imperial president Obama refuses to acknowledge that fact. He has no authority to do so. Just another example of him shitting on the constitution yet again. Yes, I know how much you value the Constitution from the thread you started when the GOP wiped their asses with it when the arranged for a foreign ruler to come to undermine US foreign policy. Where's that thread again? Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted March 10, 2015 Report Posted March 10, 2015 So if its perceived that PM Harper skirts the Constitution and posters like "Jacee" shriek like banshees continuously. Yet when the Obama does it, not a peep. Very telling. Quote
Shady Posted March 10, 2015 Report Posted March 10, 2015 Like Bush with the PATRIOT Act. Fine time for you to care about the constitution. The patriot act was voted on by congress. Is the Iran deal going to be? Nope. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 10, 2015 Report Posted March 10, 2015 They have no broken the law. You're not much of an authority anyways, considering the whole officer Wilson fiasco. Stop pretending to be a lawyer. You can quite easily fis the law online, but I understand research isnt what you like to do. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 10, 2015 Report Posted March 10, 2015 Stick to the issue at hand. His unconstitutional power grab of an Iranian deal without ratification of congress. Congress has explicit foreign policy oversignt, and treaty approval. Insisting on purposely leaving out congress is the precursor to this letter. Actions have consequences. There's bi-partisan agreement in congress regarding a nuclear deal with Iran. Imperial president Obama refuses to acknowledge that fact. He has no authority to do so. Just another example of him shitting on the constitution yet again. He actually does have that power. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 10, 2015 Report Posted March 10, 2015 The patriot act was voted on by congress. Is the Iran deal going to be? Nope. What is the difference? It's still going to happen. Now how do you prevent it from happening? Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 fis What does this mean? I'm not sure what this word is you typed. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 What does this mean? I'm not sure what this word is you typed. finger trouble....It was supposed to be....find. Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 finger trouble....It was supposed to be....find. Oh. Hehe. Happens to the best of us Quote
Mighty AC Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Posted March 11, 2015 Tom Cotton pens the treasonous republican letter and then meets with defense contractors. Hmmm... Why is it the repubs are itching for yet another war? Quote "Our lives begin to end the day we stay silent about the things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Big Guy Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 To side with another country against the leader of your country undermines your whole government. Other countries begin to question who represents the country in international affairs. How would Canadians feel if the NDP and Liberal elected members of the federal government sent a letter to Iran sating that they disagree with Harper and his approach to the Middle East and requesting a dialogue with them? After all, they represent about 60% of the electorate. Me and my brother against my cousin, me and my cousin against my neighbor, me and my neighbor against a stranger, me and a stranger against my enemy. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 If "treason" be the game, it is plain to see who would be first up for charges. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 You mean the 47 of course. Quote
Shady Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 You mean the 47 of course. You'd have to start with the Democrats first. From 2007, and 2002. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 You'd have to start with the Democrats first. From 2007, and 2002. Perhaps you should clarify what the hell you are talking about, yet again. Quote
Shady Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 To side with another country against the leader of your country undermines your whole government. I agree. But nobody is siding with another country. Quote
Shady Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 Tom Cotton pens the treasonous republican letter and then meets with defense contractors. Hmmm... Why is it the repubs are itching for yet another war? People like you would love to make political dissent treasonous. People like you would love to make an equal branch of government treasonous for asserting their constitutional powers. Quote
Shady Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 John Kerry said he was in disbelief when he read the letter. I wonder if he was ever in disbelief when he met with Daniel Ortega in defiance of the Reagan administration in 1985? Quote
Shady Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 I wonder how he felt about Nancy Pelosi meeting with Assad in 2007 in defiance of the Bush administration? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 People like you would love to make political dissent treasonous. People like you would love to make an equal branch of government treasonous for asserting their constitutional powers. Even repubs are finally figuring out how dumb an idea this was. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/10/republicans-admit-that-iran-letter-was-a-dumb-idea.html Quote
Shady Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 And of course, 3 Democrats, headed by the number 2 Democrat in the house of representatives, visiting with Iraqi officials in 2002. Before the war. In the defiance of the Bush administration. Quote
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