Argus Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Well for starters there is room. That is a fact. Not to mention 30+ countries have much higher density, but lets leave that since there could well be reasons for that. And hey, lookie here "The Israeli government has taken steps to encourage French immigration, approving an initiative that includes a hefty boost in the amount of Israeli emissaries operating in France; a significant increase in the public relations campaigns targeting French Jewry, and the implementation of new procedures that will expedite the absorption process for French Jews." No need for the tone. Netenyahu is a politician in an election year. Naturally he's playing up to Israels' raison d'etre of being a place where threatened Jews can go and be safe. We're not talking about the likelihood of many French Jews immigrating anyway. But he looks good by the offer. That does nothing to counter the fact Israel is quite crowded. And yes, so is Palestine, so you can see why there's a lot of elbows being thrown as they jostle for land. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Don't blame anyone else but the Jews/Zionists for the modern creation of Israel smack dab in the middle of all the stuff you seem to detest which has caused nothing but issues for the Jewish people while the blame is always on someone else. Wouldn't the blame be properly laid on the neighbouring countries which repeatdly invaded Israel and refused any and all attempts at cooperation, while keeping those who fled the fighting in permanent refugee camps for entire lifetimes without a single thought about their well being? Wonder what this would be like if Africa was the chosen spot. If you mean Black Africa I would imagine Israel would be just as succesful, and that it's success would have led to improvements in the economic well-being of all its surrounding neighbours, provided those neighbors weren't run by Jew haters determined to repeatedly attack Israel. Bitching about the Nazi's treatment of Jews when we see Israel controlling the worlds largest open air prison. That sort of comparison is always utterly reprehensible and offensive on any number of levels. To begin with, the Nazi's treatment of Jews was to steal all their property, send them to camps, and execute them. The Israelis haven't created any death camps that I'm aware of. In fact, the population of Palestine appears to be growing by leaps and bounds, as does the population of Israeli Arabs. Second, Palestine is no more an 'open air prison' than any number of scores of autocratic countries around the world, and less than many. After all, you can chant and hold anti Israeli meetings and denounce the Israeli government to your heart's content in Palestine. You can be shot or imprisoned in scores of other countries for doing that. Heck, if you do it in North Korea your entire extended family will be executed. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 The Israeli govt wants more people. That means there is room. But you dont think so. Ok, but the country thinks so Plenty of countries have 5+ times the density, what makes your land so special? Nothing. The countries which have the highest population density are mostly in the tropics, which means they get a lot of water. The middle east, you might have noted, does not get a lot of water, nor are most of the countries there wealthy enough to import all their food and water. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 at the end of the day, Israel wants more people. If you had a very small population base and were beset by an enemy far more populous you would probably think that a higher population would help in defending your people, would you not? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 What would that have to do with the question? You just don't put much effort into these things, do you? 1 - Creation of Israel. 2 - Displacement of Palestinians into occupied territories (the so called non-people) 3 - Why the hell am I bothering to point it out. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
GostHacked Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 The countries which have the highest population density are mostly in the tropics, which means they get a lot of water. The middle east, you might have noted, does not get a lot of water, nor are most of the countries there wealthy enough to import all their food and water. So what is so attractive about moving to Israel then? Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
Bob Macadoo Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 So what is so attractive about moving to Israel then? ....nuclear armaments? Quote
Rue Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Ghost when you keep asking the same question that indicates either you have a learning disability or are petulant which one is it. Argus could not be clearer. Political rhetoric after the French terrorist attack is one thing, reality is another. To understand the geography of Israel which you don't would be to understand certain things you clearly can't grasp; 1-its all desert and does not have unlimited physical capacity to take in immigrants; 2-it may say so, but can not and does not really expect every Jew to take it up on its offer; 3-in fact coming to Israel is not attractive and its probably why it often has more people leave then come-it has high taxes, one must serve in the armed forces from18 to 65; to get a certain kind of job requires a particular level of security clearance; its population is packed into a few cities; it has a very high cost of living; there is a constant threat each day of a terrorist act; its highly competitive; 4-to come to Israel means making a huge sacrifice in standard of living and giving up things you Ghost take for granted and have no clue of because where you live you are oblivious to the many things you have Israel does not. Israel is not necessarily attractive. For Felashies,Tsfardic Jews, Jews from Europe it became the only place to go to. Israel has a moral obligation to offer citizenship to any Jew and it will always say that but the reality is it can not take in all the world's Jews. Now you want to go back to baiting Jews over the holocaust run along. Edited March 14, 2015 by Rue Quote I come to you to hell.
Rue Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Oh look Bob made a joke. Nuclear armaments. Hee hee. Giggle giggle. What would a post from Bob be without a sneer of contempt and giggle. Israel obtained nuclear weapons to offset repeated threats to attack it with nuclear weapons by the Soviets. People like you Bob giggle and sneer because you sit in your cacooned world and have no clue why certain people have had to fight to exist while you walk around smug and content, your nose in the air making grunting noises at those you think you can look down on. Yah Bob, I get it. Seen those flared nostrils many a time. You might want to trim those nose hairs Bwana or should it be Massuh Bob. Quote I come to you to hell.
GostHacked Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Ghost when you keep asking the same question that indicates either you have a learning disability or are petulant which one is it. Why can't I be both? Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
Bob Macadoo Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Oh look Bob made a joke. Nuclear armaments. Hee hee. Giggle giggle. What would a post from Bob be without a sneer of contempt and giggle. Israel obtained nuclear weapons to offset repeated threats to attack it with nuclear weapons by the Soviets. People like you Bob giggle and sneer because you sit in your cacooned world and have no clue why certain people have had to fight to exist while you walk around smug and content, your nose in the air making grunting noises at those you think you can look down on. Yah Bob, I get it. Seen those flared nostrils many a time. You might want to trim those nose hairs Bwana or should it be Massuh Bob. ....actually I was being sincere......I can see nothing appealling on choosing to emmigrate to Israel except for the defensive capability. Thank-you though for the slurs.....you've again defeated your own argument. Quote
Argus Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 1 - Creation of Israel. 2 - Displacement of Palestinians into occupied territories (the so called non-people) 3 - Why the hell am I bothering to point it out. None of which has anything to do with the question at hand. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) So what is so attractive about moving to Israel then? The only attraction I can see is being amongst ones own kind, where you are no longer a minority and no longer face any sort of bigotry or prejudice. You might feel safer, though I question how many Jews have been murdered by terrorists in Israel vs Western Europe... But the question was about why Israel would want Palestinian land, and part of the answer is, as I said, that it's crowded in Israel. Edited March 14, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) ....actually I was being sincere......I can see nothing appealling on choosing to emmigrate to Israel except for the defensive capability. You ever wonder what it would be like to be a member of a small minority group which is often disliked or even hated, where people sometimes look at you oddly or with hostility? Maybe if you were you'd kind of like the idea of going to live in a country where the majority of the people were just like you. Edited March 14, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 You ever wonder what it would be like to be a member of a small minority group which is often disliked or even hated, where people sometimes look at you oddly or with hostility? Maybe if you were you'd kind of like the idea of going to live in a country where the majority of the people were just like you. You mean like atheists? Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
Bob Macadoo Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 You ever wonder what it would be like to be a member of a small minority group which is often disliked or even hated, where people sometimes look at you oddly or with hostility? Maybe if you were you'd kind of like the idea of going to live in a country where the majority of the people were just like you. ....I thought there's no systemic racism? Quote
Rue Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 Bob I interpret your most recent comments to reflect in fact you are being insincere. Thank you, Quote I come to you to hell.
Bob Macadoo Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 Bob I interpret your most recent comments to reflect in fact you are being insincere. Thank you, You're welcome? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 You ever wonder what it would be like to be a member of a small minority group which is often disliked or even hated, where people sometimes look at you oddly or with hostility? Maybe if you were you'd kind of like the idea of going to live in a country where the majority of the people were just like you. Yeah but then it gets crowded and you have to go steal other peoples land and move among people who arent like you and then damn, theres that old hostility again . Quote
Rue Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 Your welcome Bob. Quote I come to you to hell.
Argus Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) ....I thought there's no systemic racism? There isn't, at least in Canada. That doesn't mean a lot of people don't dislike Jews. And Jews face even more dislike and antipathy in Europe Edited March 15, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 Yeah but then it gets crowded and you have to go steal other peoples land and move among people who arent like you and then damn, theres that old hostility again . That's why they put big walls and guard towers around those settlements. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 That's why they put big walls and guard towers around those settlements. Kinda like what they do at a prison... Quote
GostHacked Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 That's why they put big walls and guard towers around those settlements. Yeah living in the occupied territories as a Jew can be stressful. But I can't for the life of me wonder why that would be the case. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
Bob Macadoo Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 There isn't, at least in Canada. That doesn't mean a lot of people don't dislike Jews. And Jews face even more dislike and antipathy in Europe So there is systemic racism except for the perfect Dominion of Canada.......thanks.......that's a relief. Quote
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