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A 'friend' huh?

You posted it, you provide the link, thats how it works

$22.65 to $26.48 per hour for full-time employees

$52,000 average annual earnings for full-time employees

7.75% wage increase guaranteed in the four-year 2009 collective bargaining agreement

12% wage increase guaranteed in the four-year 2005 collective bargaining agreement

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/15/lcbo-inches-closer-to-first-strike-in-86-years-as-victoria-day-long-weekend-approaches/

So, like I said, they make over $25/hour to put a bottle into a paper bag and stock shelves. I find it alarming that people here claim to be up to date on what goes on in the country yet they don't have basic info like this...makes me laugh.

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Fairly simple equation I think, if you have ten times the buying power spread across the same size land mass, you can sell a lot more boards and beers and do it cheaper if for nothing else than shipping costs.

Maybe, but do you want to exchange our lifestyle for the lifestyle of India or Bangladesh or Russia or Nigeria or Mexico?

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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Or how about the USA.

Yes, how about the USA, which has half our immigration rate...

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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Maybe, but do you want to exchange our lifestyle for the lifestyle of India or Bangladesh or Russia or Nigeria or Mexico?

Right. So let's compare our population with the countries mentioned above:

India: 1.252 billion

Bangladesh: 156.6 million

Russia: 143.5 million

Nigeria: 173.6 million

Mexico: 122.3 million

U.S.: 318.9 million

Canada: 35.16 million

So, when do you think we will catch up to these countries with our immigration policies? When do you think our lifestyles will resemble the above countries?

Quite frankly, your post is simply fear mongering BS.

I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou

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And much lower prices due to economies of scale.

Canada differs from the US in many ways, both positive and negative. For some, Canada is a better place to be, and for others, the US is preferable. I like there being lot's of different options, lot's of different countries with different ways of doing things. Canada does not need to seek to emulate the USA in every way. If your idea is that Canada needs to bring in 300 million people so we can reach a population density comparable to that of the USA, I say no thanks.

Canada is relatively unique in its low population density and vast tracts of relatively untouched boreal forests and other ecosystems. There is no need to try to throw this uniqueness away just to post a bigger number.

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Or how about Sweden, Switzerland, and Australia who have roughly the same net immigration rate.

clearly these are all failed states.

Science too hard for you? Try religion!

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And much lower prices due to economies of scale.

It has lower prices due to lower taxes, because, among other things, it has no health care. Generally speaking, the services government provides are lower there as there is less of a ideological belief that government ought to help everyone. The philosophy is more focused on each person doing their own thing and if they can't make it, well, tough luck joe.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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Right. So let's compare our population with the countries mentioned above:

India: 1.252 billion

Bangladesh: 156.6 million

Russia: 143.5 million

Nigeria: 173.6 million

Mexico: 122.3 million

U.S.: 318.9 million

Canada: 35.16 million

So, when do you think we will catch up to these countries with our immigration policies? When do you think our lifestyles will resemble the above countries?

Quite frankly, your post is simply fear mongering BS.

The point, and I would have thought almost anyone could acknowledge it, was that having a large population in no way suggests your economy will be better, or that you will be richer, while having a small population, like the Nordic countries, in no way impedes your economic development.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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The word xenophobia comes to mind as well.

The word moron comes to mind as well.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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clearly these are all failed states.

Do you know how many immigrants to those countries are other Europeans?

Are you advocating we increase the percentage of European immigrants?

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"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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It has lower prices due to lower taxes, because, among other things, it has no health care. Generally speaking, the services government provides are lower there

This is patently false....U.S. local, state, and federal governments provide lots of services...far beyond health care. Hell, Canada sponges off many of these services because it cannot afford them alone.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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It has lower prices due to lower taxes, because, among other things, it has no health care. Generally speaking, the services government provides are lower there as there is less of a ideological belief that government ought to help everyone. The philosophy is more focused on each person doing their own thing and if they can't make it, well, tough luck joe.

If I have to send a 2 x 4 a thousand miles to market it, do you think I may have to charge more than if I have to send it 5 miles. Not that complicated.

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This is patently false....U.S. local, state, and federal governments provide lots of services...far beyond health care. Hell, Canada sponges off many of these services because it cannot afford them alone.

To say they provide 'many services' is to say basically nothing. Every level of government in all countries, states, provinces and cities provide 'many services'.

They simply don't provide as many as we do.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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It should, to your mind.

You certainly help with that.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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If I have to send a 2 x 4 a thousand miles to market it, do you think I may have to charge more than if I have to send it 5 miles. Not that complicated.

Oddly, we export tons of 2 x 4s around the globe, and it isn't that complicated. Most of Canada lives within 100 miles of the US border. Shipping wood or other resource products is no more difficult for us than it is for people in the US northeast or midwest.

In any case, given your demonstrated complete ignorance on all economic issues, I'm afraid I'm unwilling to take your word for the economic advantage of us increasing our population base.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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This is patently false....U.S. local, state, and federal governments provide lots of services...far beyond health care. Hell, Canada sponges off many of these services because it cannot afford them alone.

And just go ahead and tell us what a person pays for healthcare, assuming the insurance company hasnt disqualified them because they are.....ill. Keep in mind I already have a pretty good idea of the answer to that question, so no BS please.

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