A Non Terrorist Terrorist Act

Argus · February 20, 2015

Tin foil hat?

So what do you call this?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/child-porn-policing-program-suffers-from-rcmp-underspending-1.2963885?cmp=fbtl&utm_content=buffer9df79&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

A very slanted report, or more accurately, opinion piece. Of course the RCMP did not spend the full amount given it. No department does. The biggest sin a minister or deputy minister or even manager can make is to exceed his budget for the year. So all of them hold back enough so that won't happen. What has been the case in the past is that they go on a spending splurge towards the end of the year to consume as much of that budget as possible, but Harper has tried to curtail that.

I have no doubt you can find unspent money in every single department and agency, and in all the sub-groups within them.

Edited February 20, 2015 by Argus

WWWTT · February 20, 2015

A very slanted report, or more accurately, opinion piece.

LOL!

Lots of facts there in what you call an "opinion" piece!

Doesn't sound like the RCMP have the safety of Canada's youth front and center when tips that can help are increasing rapidly, and they are making cuts to the department!

But you will jump through hoops to justify them regardless, so keep jumping.

WWWTT

Argus · February 21, 2015

LOL!

Lots of facts there in what you call an "opinion" piece!

Doesn't sound like the RCMP have the safety of Canada's youth front and center when tips that can help are increasing rapidly, and they are making cuts to the department!

But you will jump through hoops to justify them regardless, so keep jumping.

Sorry, am I introducing reality into your tinfoil world again?

eyeball · February 21, 2015

That's no more than a bleeding heart white liberal guilt trip.

Actually it's the citizen of an unprincipled democracy guilt trip.

Every country in he world acts in its own interests and seeks to cut the best deal it can with trading partners, security partners, etc. If someone in some Muslim country is angry over that they should direct their anger at their own government, not at ours.

Except when they do we all to often arm these governments against them.

And, of course you ignore the fact most of the terrorist acts of late have been conducted by people who have never even lived in a Muslim country.

No you simply fall to realize that moral dissonance is color blind and transcends borders, like something touching that happens that rivets attention and captures imaginations around the world. Except, you know, instead of condolences you get blowback. Edited February 21, 2015 by eyeball

WWWTT · February 21, 2015

Sorry, am I introducing reality into your tinfoil world again?

By making a comment and claiming I live in tin foil hat world?

That's introducing me to reality?

Sounds like you like to avoid the reality that your government is corrupt.

WWWTT

poochy · February 21, 2015

Better chance of the fridge falling over and killing you than a terrorist. Must be tough living with such paranoia looking for Osama bin Ladin around every corner.

Of course none of us are living in fear, but this is your way of deflecting from the real argument, one which you can't debate, you're a child and your broken ideology won't allow you to call things as they truly are, you might as well argue for no law as much as argue against new ones in the face of a new threat.

You don't know any better than I do if new laws are absolutely required, but i am not so arrogant or stupid as to believe they might not be. Nor do i believe that the sky is falling in terms of our freedoms. Most of these changes are incremental and look at that, i haven't been arrested for terrorism or anything else since 9/11, i guess im not much of a threat.

Edited February 21, 2015 by poochy

Argus · February 21, 2015

Actually it's the citizen of an unprincipled democracy guilt trip.

But we're not an unprincipled democracy and you know that.

Except when they do we all to often arm these governments against them.

This is paternalistic nonsense. Are we to tell the government of some country somewhere we refuse to sell them weapons if they want to buy? On what basis other than your belief we ought to be exercising some sort of supervisory duty over their actions?

We, the people of this country, owe the people of other countries precisely nothing. Our government's duty is to look out for our interests, not the interests of foreigners.

eyeball · February 21, 2015

This is paternalistic nonsense. Are we to tell the government of some country somewhere we refuse to sell them weapons if they want to buy?

No apparently we're to tell the people in their torture chambers and mass graves to suck it up.

On what basis other than your belief we ought to be exercising some sort of supervisory duty over their actions?

Well, at risk of invoking mocking laughter and rolling eyeballs...R2P? But I guess that ship sailed and was promptly torpedoed.

We, the people of this country, owe the people of other countries precisely nothing. Our government's duty is to look out for our interests, not the interests of foreigners.

Then why are we looking out for the interests of foreign dictators?

On Guard for Thee · February 21, 2015

Of course none of us are living in fear, but this is your way of deflecting from the real argument, one which you can't debate, you're a child and your broken ideology won't allow you to call things as they truly are, you might as well argue for no law as much as argue against new ones in the face of a new threat.

You don't know any better than I do if new laws are absolutely required, but i am not so arrogant or stupid as to believe they might not be. Nor do i believe that the sky is falling in terms of our freedoms. Most of these changes are incremental and look at that, i haven't been arrested for terrorism or anything else since 9/11, i guess im not much of a threat.

So are you not that arrogant and stupid as to have read, and understood, the bill.

Argus · February 21, 2015

Well, at risk of invoking mocking laughter and rolling eyeballs...R2P? But I guess that ship sailed and was promptly torpedoed.

The people of the countries you feel we have a responsibility over would gladly kill you for making any sort of assumption about our duty or right to tell them how to run their country. On the one hand you say we should leave them completely alone, and on the other suggest we have some sort of overlord's responsibility to oversee how their governments operate.

Then why are we looking out for the interests of foreign dictators?

We're not, except insofar as their replacement with worse dictators is not in our interests.

Edited February 21, 2015 by Argus

GostHacked · February 21, 2015

Seems to be a lot of these lone wolves. And the point of the legislation is to stop them BEFORE they kill someone, or before one succeeds in killing many people.

How would you stop lone wolf scenarios?

GostHacked · February 21, 2015

A very slanted report, or more accurately, opinion piece. Of course the RCMP did not spend the full amount given it. No department does. The biggest sin a minister or deputy minister or even manager can make is to exceed his budget for the year. So all of them hold back enough so that won't happen. What has been the case in the past is that they go on a spending splurge towards the end of the year to consume as much of that budget as possible, but Harper has tried to curtail that.

I have no doubt you can find unspent money in every single department and agency, and in all the sub-groups within them.

What is Canada's national debt level?

eyeball · February 21, 2015

We're not, except insofar as their replacement with worse dictators is not in our interests.

Words can no longer describe the phenomenal depths of Machiavellian depravity we're plumbing here today.

Keep it coming Argus, your sentiments and words are probably the greatest source of radicalization MLW has to offer Islamists looking for justifications to despise our guts.

eyeball · February 21, 2015

I wonder of inviting young disaffected Muslims to MLW could be construed as inviting and promoting terrorism? It probably wouldn't take long to find out. I bet a compilation of your choicer commentary emailed to ISIS would probably earn a person a hot chair in one of Harper's interrogation chambers.

Just wait until you finally run afoul of a Liberal Radicalizing Speech Commission. That'll be the sort of tweak you can probably expect from subsequent governments that add their incremental changes to the dictators tool-kit Ottawa is empowering our state with.

Don't be surprised if we both end up in the same clink.

Edited February 21, 2015 by eyeball

Bob Macadoo · February 21, 2015

But we're not an unprincipled democracy and you know that. ... We, the people of this country, owe the people of other countries precisely nothing. Our government's duty is to look out for our interests, not the interests of foreigners.

You don't see how your second statement conflicts with the first? You do realize you have the ideal psychiatric make-up for terrorist recruitment right......should probably thank your mother for spitting you out in this country to avoid temptation.

Big Guy · February 21, 2015

For those few who are really interested in why young Canadians become militant (from their point of view):

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/02/20/why-a-young-canadians-dream-turned-to-isis.html

It is assumed that different youngsters have different reasons but I like the Stars approach to actually talk to these kids to find out their reasons. I wish that more of this kind of investigation would take place with interviews with those already in Syria and Iraq. Until you understand your enemy you will never defeat him.

WWWTT · February 21, 2015

Harper is a big supporter of the neo nazi Ukraine government.

So naturally, any neo nazi crime in Canada is going to be brushed aside

http://rt.com/op-edge/234123-neo-nazism-ukraine-west/

WWWTT

Argus · February 21, 2015

What is Canada's national debt level?

Did someone appoint me your personal research bitch when I wasn't looking?

Argus · February 21, 2015

Words can no longer describe the phenomenal depths of Machiavellian depravity we're plumbing here today.

Keep it coming Argus, your sentiments and words are probably the greatest source of radicalization MLW has to offer Islamists looking for justifications to despise our guts.

I have amazing powers. You should fear me.

Argus · February 21, 2015

You don't see how your second statement conflicts with the first? You do realize you have the ideal psychiatric make-up for terrorist recruitment right......should probably thank your mother for spitting you out in this country to avoid temptation.

You hate reality, do you? Maybe you want our government, which we pay for, to put the interests of foreigners before our own but not enough of your fellow citizens agree with you enough for ANY government in Canadian history to do that.

Every country acts the same. EVERY country. And they always have. And the people you're feeling so much kinship for and want to help? They'll do exactly the same, too.

That doesn't mean they're unprincipled. If we were unprincipled we'd simply kill the foreign leaders we don't like, and take over control to get free resources, killing anyone in the area who gets in our way. Then they'd actually have some justification for hating us.

Argus · February 21, 2015

It is assumed that different youngsters have different reasons but I like the Stars approach to actually talk to these kids to find out their reasons. I wish that more of this kind of investigation would take place with interviews with those already in Syria and Iraq. Until you understand your enemy you will never defeat him.

Drop a bomb on his head and you'll defeat him.

ISIS could be defeated by a single western division. We just don't want any of our people dying to protect Arabs from Arabs when they're not willing to fight for themselves.

Argus · February 21, 2015

Harper is a big supporter of the neo nazi Ukraine government.

So naturally, any neo nazi crime in Canada is going to be brushed aside

http://rt.com/op-edge/234123-neo-nazism-ukraine-west/

WWWTT

You've been repeatedly told your wacko cites and Russian and Chinese propaganda programs are of no value in backing up your loony opinions.

Edited February 21, 2015 by Argus

WWWTT · February 22, 2015

Edited February 22, 2015 by WWWTT

GostHacked · February 22, 2015

Did someone appoint me your personal research bitch when I wasn't looking?

Just trying to get a grip on your line of thinking.

Drop a bomb on his head and you'll defeat him.

Sounds like there are some that advocate for violence here. Anyways.

ISIS could be defeated by a single western division. We just don't want any of our people dying to protect Arabs from Arabs when they're not willing to fight for themselves.

They could be, but they won't be. Simply because western support of some rebel groups in Syria and elsewhere. I thought Iraq was cleared so it would not be a hotbed of terrorism again. Is that considered a win?

Michael Hardner · June 10, 2015

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/norman-raddatz-was-to-be-arrested-for-anti-semitic-harassment-1.3108484

Another non-terrorist terrorist. It seems to me that this isn't getting much coverage either. I guess we're just not afraid of white zealots ? Thoughts ?