Assisted Suicide in Canada.

nerve · February 28, 2015

I didNone of them back you up.And while youre at it, gor read the rules, you said it you back it up.Oh please, you havent the slightest idea what you are talking about.

That is a lie. Either that or you need more grey matter injected to improve your recall.

Something like this http://gladstoneinstitutes.org/pressrelease/2014-07-15/transplantation-of-healthy-new-brain-cells-reverses-learning-and-memory-loss

Edited February 28, 2015 by nerve

Michael Hardner · February 28, 2015

That is a lie. Either that or you need more grey matter injected to improve your recall.

Please don't accuse others of lying. If you feel, on the other hand, that they can be helped to improve their recall just post a link showing where they're wrong. Thank you.

The_Squid · February 28, 2015

Suicide is the cowards way out. Enough said.

You are a disgusting troll saying that after someone shares their own loss on the forum.

Pathetic.

LemonPureLeaf · February 28, 2015

You are a disgusting troll saying that after someone shares their own loss on the forum.

Pathetic.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I wasn't refering to someone in particular just puting forth my opinion that anyone who chooses to end their own life is a coward. Do you view it as brave and courageous? You're certainly welcome to your opinion just as I am. Edited February 28, 2015 by LemonPureLeaf

On Guard for Thee · February 28, 2015

You are a disgusting troll saying that after someone shares their own loss on the forum.

Pathetic.

Certainly was.

Rue · February 28, 2015

Sorry I only had a chance to read your post now Hydraboss. Eloquent. Yes by the way the machine you are talking of first worked on by Dr. Kevorkian was by no means meant to be a death machine. It was meant to prevent people in terminal conditions overwhelmed by pain, from hurting themselves through botched suicide attempts. Its also been used by certain states in the US as an alternative to electricity, or hanging for capital punishment. There was on case in a state execution where it was not set up properly.

If set up properely it allows a humane death, a gentle one with dignity.

Now as for Lemon, Lemon I do respectfully disagree with you that people in final stages of terminal illness racked with pain that can not be stopped are cowards when they ask to die. They seek compassion. As for certain people, because of their spiritual beliefs, they do not fear death and consider it a natural party of life and do not think it is to be avoided and at the right time they do not resist it.

I think Lemon and its just my personal opinion, that each person should be able to set the final stage of their life. I have volunteered and like Hydra watched a loved one die.It taught us humility and appreciation of the preciousness of life.We don't want to impose anything on anyone. Its just from what we saw, we want people treated with compassion and dignity.

Suffering uh yes in one sense its part of learning humility, however at another level, it might be needless and if we have the intelligence to keep people alive so much longer surely we have the intelligence to know quality of life is just as important as quantity of life, and a life with overwhelming pain is something none of us wants. If we can bring compassion and dignity to people in their hour of need, isn't that courageous and just as brave as simply sitting back and letting people suffer knowing we could have helped them?

Its an emotional topic. I certainly do not intend to lecture anyone on it. Everyone struggles to come to their own conclusions as to it.

I just want Hyrda to know his words hit home to me.

guyser · March 1, 2015

That is a lie. Either that or you need more grey matter injected to improve your recall.

English is a second language?

from your link whereby you state that head transplants HAVE been done ...reads...

'First human head transplant now possible', neurosurgeon claims

Hmm...now possible, doesnt that mean NOT done before?

Yea...I am pretty sure it does.

nerve · March 2, 2015

Please don't accuse others of lying. If you feel, on the other hand, that they can be helped to improve their recall just post a link showing where they're wrong. Thank you.

Look at the time stamps, he didn't read 40 plus webpages in that time, it is common sense.

nerve · March 2, 2015

English is a second language?from your link whereby you state that head transplants HAVE been done ...reads...Hmm...now possible, doesnt that mean NOT done before?Yea...I am pretty sure it does.

Yeah and there have been tons. Read the links. I know you didn't do the research. Your position is showing how badly you are at it.

Pop quiz when was the first monkey head transplant?

Where did it occur?

How long did it live?

Why did it die?

Edited March 2, 2015 by nerve

On Guard for Thee · March 2, 2015

Yeah and there have been tons. Read the links. I know you didn't do the research. Your position is showing how badly you are at it.

Pop quiz when was the first monkey head transplant?

Where did it occur?

How long did it live?

Why did it die?

Assisted suicide is a rather sensitive issue. If you want to talk about monkey heads, have at least enough grace to take it elsewhere.

jbg · March 2, 2015

Assisted suicide is a rather sensitive issue. If you want to talk about monkey heads, have at least enough grace to take it elsewhere.

Unfortunately for humans and medical ethicists head transplants are said to be three or so years away. Positively creepy but apparently true.

LemonPureLeaf · March 2, 2015

Assisted suicide is a rather sensitive issue. If you want to talk about monkey heads, have at least enough grace to take it elsewhere.

I disagree. It's not a sensitive issue. Not to me. People die everyday, big deal. Suicide is a cowardly way out imo. Someone is too weak willed to deal with life so they end it. Thats what society is turning into, a society of wimps and pussies. Cant even die like a man, want to be put down like dogs. People are against capital punishment but for this. ?.makes no sense.

On the head transplant thing, I agree with "on guard for thee", it has no place in this thread at all. Please start your own thread instead of hijacking this one.

On Guard for Thee · March 2, 2015

I disagree. It's not a sensitive issue. Not to me. People die everyday, big deal. Suicide is a cowardly way out imo. Someone is too weak willed to deal with life so they end it. Thats what society is turning into, a society of wimps and pussies. Cant even die like a man, want to be put down like dogs. People are against capital punishment but for this. ?.makes no sense.

On the head transplant thing, I agree with "on guard for thee", it has no place in this thread at all. Please start your own thread instead of hijacking this one.

And you are entirely welcome to your opinion. Many others, including our SC, have a different one.

On Guard for Thee · March 2, 2015

Unfortunately for humans and medical ethicists head transplants are said to be three or so years away. Positively creepy but apparently true.

Very creepy. Who does that person the become I guess has to be one big question.

PrimeNumber · March 2, 2015

Very creepy. Who does that person the become I guess has to be one big question.

Same person different body I think. You may want a body that is the same to avoid the body rejecting the head so to speak. You can bet that the religious types will be all over that. I think it's kinda neat, creepy, but neat.

Edited March 2, 2015 by PrimeNumber

LemonPureLeaf · March 2, 2015

Same person different body I think. You may want a body that is the same to avoid the body rejecting the head so to speak. You can bet that the religious types will be all over that. I think it's kinda neat, creepy, but neat.

Very creepy. Who does that person the become I guess has to be one big question.

Both of these these replies are off topic. Please make a new thread if you'd like to discuss new topics. Thank you very much for your co operation.

PrimeNumber · March 2, 2015

Both of these these replies are off topic. Please make a new thread if you'd like to discuss new topics. Thank you very much for your co operation.

Well technically it could effect Assisted Suicides of people who are terminally ill by just replacing their bodies with new ones. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Still on topic. Thank you very much for your co-operation.

We may see a separate Body Donor sticker on our health cards in the future. Were recently deceased people will be frozen and prepared for transfer for terminally ill patients to be given a second chance at a not so normal but healthier life.

Edited March 2, 2015 by PrimeNumber

Black Dog · March 3, 2015

I disagree. It's not a sensitive issue. Not to me. People die everyday, big deal. Suicide is a cowardly way out imo. Someone is too weak willed to deal with life so they end it. Thats what society is turning into, a society of wimps and pussies. Cant even die like a man, want to be put down like dogs. People are against capital punishment but for this. ?.makes no sense.

You're right, your post makes absolutely no sense. I can't imagine the amount of courage it would take for someone who wants to live to choose to end their life because of the suffering to keep on living would bring.

Edited March 3, 2015 by Black Dog

GostHacked · March 3, 2015

You're right, your post makes absolutely no sense. I can't imagine the amount of courage it would take for someone who wants to live to choose to end their life because of the suffering to keep on living would bring.

I guess terminally ill people in a lot of pain just must find the will to go on.

jbg · March 7, 2015

You're right, your post makes absolutely no sense. I can't imagine the amount of courage it would take for someone who wants to live to choose to end their life because of the suffering to keep on living would bring.
I guess terminally ill people in a lot of pain just must find the will to go on.

The same people who bellyache about the cost of government and the cost of medicine want the terminally ill to extend their sentence of endless pain. On the dime of the government in Canada or the insurance company in the U.S.

On Guard for Thee · March 7, 2015

The same people who bellyache about the cost of government and the cost of medicine want the terminally ill to extend their sentence of endless pain. On the dime of the government in Canada or the insurance company in the U.S.

Those same bellyachers will employ religion as support for their position, and then quickly turn on others who they deem to be equally influenced by a different religion. Oh well, flocks are flocks I guess.

LemonPureLeaf · March 7, 2015

Those same bellyachers will employ religion as support for their position, and then quickly turn on others who they deem to be equally influenced by a different religion. Oh well, flocks are flocks I guess.

I don't use religion to support my position at all. I think they are flat out cowards and pussies who refuse to grow some balls once in their lives and die properly. Once again the Me generation wins and we need instant gratification, even in death.

nerve · March 7, 2015

People are entitled to their views.

We cannot discount sacrificing would suicides to have heroes of medicine and hope for the future for all. Why have conflict when honour and self sacrifice could be in its place?http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10774097/Breakthrough-in-human-cloning-offers-new-transplant-hope.html

1in 4 us pregnancies end in miscarriage yet we are holding back life saving medicine to prevent unborn babies from getting life, or dying humans a second chance at life. Shameful. Shame on the selfish bastards holding back the cure.

Over 100 million women let their eggs rot month the after month over 100 million potential embryos to go down the drain or into a pad, that would be 10 billion stem cells each month just from taping us birth control pill users.

It is not that clear cut but the bottom line is society is choosing to kill instead of give life. That is a shame.

Edited March 7, 2015 by nerve

On Guard for Thee · March 7, 2015

I don't use religion to support my position at all. I think they are flat out cowards and pussies who refuse to grow some balls once in their lives and die properly. Once again the Me generation wins and we need instant gratification, even in death.

My mother died of cancer. I sat by her bedside. It happened fairly quickly. The mounting pain was only staunched by the increased flow of morphine. I am aware that the morphine probably killed her slightly ahead of the cancer. She was of a woman, so of course no balls but she raised me herself, and had more balls than a lot of men I know. If you think she should have suffered all that pain just to not be what you call a pussy, then I only have two words for you. And they aint happy birthday. Maybe try growing something other than balls.

Edited March 7, 2015 by On Guard for Thee