Hudson Jones Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 After Adelson, one of the top Zionist bankrollers, declares that Iran should be hit by an atomic bomb, Iranian hackers respond and attack his business online, costing him an estimated $40 million. Not sure about everyone else, but I enjoyed reading this news. Iranian Hackers Retaliated Against Sheldon Adelson for $40M Hit DECEMBER 11, 2014 BY KEVIN HORRIDGE The supposed inspiration for the attacks appears to date back to October 2013, when, responding to news of the reopening of talks with Iran about its nuclear program, Adelson took the opportunity to vent his spleen. The following day the hackers attacked LVS’ websites, which, run by a third party, had survived the onslaught of the previous day. There they posted personal information about Sands Bethlehem employees, stolen the previous day, which included email addresses and social security numbers. They also left personal messages for Adelson: “Encouraging the use of Weapons of Mass Destruction, UNDER ANY CONDITION, is a Crime, signed, the Anti WMD Team,” said one. “Damn A, Don’t let your tongue cut your throat,” warned another. An image of a map of Sand’s US casinos, on which flames had been superimposed, was also posted, along with a photograph of Adelson meeting Netanyahu. About three-quarters of LVS servers were wiped out in the attack, which Leven estimates will cost $40 million or more to rebuild. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Shady Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 I'm not a fan of anti-women, anti-gay, anti-Jew, anti-freedom Iranian theocracy. So I didn't get any joy from reading it. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) President Obama is urged to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities....or Israel will do it for him: Bachmann to Obama at White House Christmas Party: Bomb Iran http://freebeacon.com/politics/bachmann-to-obama-at-white-house-christmas-party-bomb-iran/ Edited December 12, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 President Obama is urged to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities....or Israel will do it for him: Bachmann to Obama at White House Christmas Party: Bomb Iran http://freebeacon.com/politics/bachmann-to-obama-at-white-house-christmas-party-bomb-iran/ That Bachmann, she's a hoot ain't she? Let's get ourselves in the middle of P5 +1 discussions in Geneva and then go bomb Iran. That'll show 'em. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Posted December 12, 2014 I'm not a fan of anti-women, anti-gay, anti-Jew, anti-freedom Iranian theocracy. So I didn't get any joy from reading it. But you are a fan of dropping the bomb on Iran. Gotcha! Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 What makes Iran so special compared to Libya, Iraq, or Serbia ? Make up another pretense about human rights...then even Canada will do it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Posted December 13, 2014 What makes Iran so special compared to Libya, Iraq, or Serbia ? Make up another pretense about human rights...then even Canada will do it. I understand that you are somehow trying to bring Canada into this, but I'm not sure what you are trying to argue here. Are you also in favour of dropping the A-bomb on Iran like Sheldon Adelson and Shady (unless I misunderstood the intention of his comment)? Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) I understand that you are somehow trying to bring Canada into this, but I'm not sure what you are trying to argue here. Are you also in favour of dropping the A-bomb on Iran like Sheldon Adelson and Shady (unless I misunderstood the intention of his comment)? Well it's not like Canada has not bombed other nations for far less. Why the double standard ? Bunker busting HE warheads should be used first, and if BDA shows less than desired effectiveness, other options should be considered. Hell...Iran half-ass bombed Iraq's Osirak nuclear plant in 1980, but screwed it up. Israel got it right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Scorch_Sword Edited December 13, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Posted December 13, 2014 Well it's not like Canada has not bombed other nations for far less. Why the double standard ? Bunker busting HE warheads should be used first, and if BDA shows less than desired effectiveness, other options should be considered. Hell...Iran half-ass bombed Iraq's Osirak nuclear plant in 1980, but screwed it up. Israel got it right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Scorch_Sword I have never excused Canada's bombing campaigns of other countries. But, we are talking about the Atomic bomb. There is a reason why it's called a weapon of mass destruction. I wish you'd stay focused instead of trying to always somehow bring Canada into discussions and draw a parallel like Canada is exactly like Israel. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) I have never excused Canada's bombing campaigns of other countries. But, we are talking about the Atomic bomb. There is a reason why it's called a weapon of mass destruction. I wish you'd stay focused instead of trying to always somehow bring Canada into discussions and draw a parallel like Canada is exactly like Israel. I understand your discomfort with the obvious current and historic parallels between Israel and Canada (doesn't have to be "exactly like Israel"), but even as I type this, your country is bombing people in another nation across the sea. If your only reservation is the type of weapon used, I am sure we can use an agreeable conventional munition with sufficient accuracy, penetration, and yield to get the job done. What part of Iran attacking Iraq's nuclear facilities in 1980 is not on topic ? Edited December 13, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Posted December 13, 2014 I understand your discomfort with the obvious current and historic parallels between Israel and Canada (doesn't have to be "exactly like Israel"), but even as I type this, your country is bombing people in another nation across the sea. If your only reservation is the type of weapon used, I am sure we can use an agreeable conventional munition with sufficient accuracy, penetration, and yield to get the job done. What part of Iran attacking Iraq's nuclear facilities in 1980 is not on topic ? I do have a discomfort when you try to compare Canada to Israel because Canada has not engaged in bombing campaigns on a strip of land every 2 years in the past 6 years, killing thousands of innocent people. Canada is also not forcefully annexing another group of people's lands and subjecting them to serious human rights violations and war crimes. Canada's laws in Canada do not give special right to one group of people to another. If you want to compare Canada during its early years and much before international law came to be, fine, go for it. But that comparison does not apply to now. Canada would not be able to get away with what Israel is getting away with, in this day and age. Not internationally and not domestically. Israel is a different and unique beast. I have replied to your asinine comparisons more than I should. Consider the above my perspective. I really don't care to continue responding to any more of your comparisons. At least for now. So if you don't get a response, now understand why. I much rather enjoy the happy news that Sheldon Adelson's casino business was hacked and he lost $40 million. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) I do have a discomfort when you try to compare Canada to Israel because Canada has not engaged in bombing campaigns on a strip of land every 2 years in the past 6 years, killing thousands of innocent people. Canada is also not forcefully annexing another group of people's lands and subjecting them to serious human rights violations and war crimes. Canada's laws in Canada do not give special right to one group of people to another. Canada has already forcefully taken land and resources from First Nations and continues to do so. Land claims remain unsettled after decades and lifetimes. Natives live without sufficient potable water, and their environment is polluted by order of the "Crown". If you want to compare Canada during its early years and much before international law came to be, fine, go for it. But that comparison does not apply to now. Canada would not be able to get away with what Israel is getting away with, in this day and age. Not internationally and not domestically. Israel is a different and unique beast. The comparison does apply now. Israel did not have "residential schools" designed to destroy native culture and languages. I have replied to your asinine comparisons more than I should. Consider the above my perspective. I really don't care to continue responding to any more of your comparisons. At least for now. So if you don't get a response, now understand why. I much rather enjoy the happy news that Sheldon Adelson's casino business was hacked and he lost $40 million. Do as you please....asinine rationalizations for hating on Israel when presented with the historical record specific to land grabs and nuclear facilities attacks by Iran demonstrates a clear lack of objectivity on these matters. Unlike Israel, Canada engages in these practices and policies without facing an "existential" threat. Edited December 13, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 But you are a fan of dropping the bomb on Iran. Gotcha! "Iran should develop nuclear weapons, and the instant it gets them it must use them to destroy Israel. Even though many Muslims will die in the retaliation, it will be worth it, for we as a people will survive, but they will not." Guess who said that to a large crowd which roared its approval? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Rue Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 So according to Hudson Jones he wants to now come on the forum and giggle at what he calls a Zionist bankroller. Yes that helps share constructive views on how to resolve the conflict turning the forum into a giggle arena. Tee hee tee hee tee hee lets find a Zionist and pee . Quote
eyeball Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Guess who said that to a large owd which roared its approval?Who probably doesn't matter as much as what, which is obviously a disturbed person.I mean, ANYONE who would suggest it's okay to use an atomic bomb against human beings is clearly not thinking straight. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 ...I mean, ANYONE who would suggest it's okay to use an atomic bomb against human beings is clearly not thinking straight. So true....that's why I only support using hydrogen bombs. Atomic bombs are so 1940's ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Posted December 14, 2014 Suddenly we have a lot of fans of dropping weapons of mass destruction on a nation or at least there is no condemnation of someone who advocates it. Kind of an odd (and hypocritical) reaction by these people when majority of them go into hyperventilation whenever there is a mention of the former leader of Iran saying "the Zionist regime should be wiped out". Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) Of course not..."bombing Iran" was popular long before any concern about an Iranian BOMB. Senator John McCain joked with an old Beach Boys tune, "Bomb, bomb, bomb....bomb bomb Iran", and their is no end to such references in popular culture. Here is one from 2008: Edited December 14, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Posted December 14, 2014 Of course not..."bombing Iran" was popular long before any concern about an Iranian BOMB. Senator John McCain joked with an old Beach Boys tune, "Bomb, bomb, bomb....bomb bomb Iran", and their is no end to such references in popular culture. Here is one from 2008: Mccain's so-called joke was supposed to be a joke about attacking Iran. Adelson is advocating the genocide of people by dropping the atomic bomb in the middle of its capital, Tehran. McCain, one of the most corrupt of American politicians and one of the main prostitutes of the Zionist lobby loves to talk and talk. It's too bad sometimes he forgets his lines and shows that he really doesn't get it. Here are three of the biggest Zionist prostitutes together: Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Bombing Tehran would not be genocide...it would just be bombing Tehran. If Iran and Iran's supporters can't handle the bellicose rhetoric, then they shouldn't dish it out concerning the destruction of Israel, not just a single city. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Suddenly we have a lot of fans of dropping weapons of mass destruction on a nation or at least there is no condemnation of someone who advocates it. Kind of an odd (and hypocritical) reaction by these people when majority of them go into hyperventilation whenever there is a mention of the former leader of Iran saying "the Zionist regime should be wiped out".So your idea is to let that nation go nuclear so they can fight on an equal opportunity basis? I think you know that when some Ayatollah has a bad dream it will be very bad news for a lot of people. Remember the Iran-Iraq war started after Hussein had a bad dream one night. Bombing Tehran would not be genocide...it would just be bombing Tehran. If Iran and Iran's supporters can't handle the bellicose rhetoric, then they shouldn't dish it out concerning the destruction of Israel, not just a single city.I agree. We should take Teheran at its word and act accordingly. Edited December 15, 2014 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
marcus Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Bombing Tehran would not be genocide...it would just be bombing Tehran. If Iran and Iran's supporters can't handle the bellicose rhetoric, then they shouldn't dish it out concerning the destruction of Israel, not just a single city. Dropping an atomic bomb in the middle of a city is genocide. Why are there so many dark, ugly people on this board? Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Dropping an atomic bomb in the middle of a city is genocide. Why are there so many dark, ugly people on this board? No, government sanctioned residential schools is genocide. Bombing a city.... is just bombing a city. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
PrimeNumber Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 No, government sanctioned residential schools is genocide. Bombing a city.... is just bombing a city. Depends on your motives for bombing it. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
Hudson Jones Posted December 15, 2014 Author Report Posted December 15, 2014 So your idea is to let that nation go nuclear so they can fight on an equal opportunity basis? I think you know that when some Ayatollah has a bad dream it will be very bad news for a lot of people. Remember the Iran-Iraq war started after Hussein had a bad dream one night. I agree. We should take Teheran at its word and act accordingly. My idea is to allow international law to take its course. As both the Israeli intelligence and US generals have said, the Iranian government is not an unstable, crazy government. No more than Israel, who also has nuclear weapons. Definitely no more than Pakistan who is Iran's neighbour. It's quite possible that a nuclear Iran will actually bring more of a chance that it will reduce the chances of conflict. Hussein is Iraqi and not Iranian. The only reason he started the war with Iran was because he received support from the West. It wasn't a dream. Good try though, with your "oh_those_Muslims_are_all_the_same_crazy_unstable_baby_killers_Hussein_Khomeini_Same" schtick. Should we take Adelson on his word? One of the biggest political forces, Adelson, can change the course with his millions in political donations (we all know what money can do in politics - ask AIPAC). Are Israel and U.S. fair game and should be attacked preemptively because they have said "all options are on the table" and the Adelsons are calling for dropping the bomb on Tehran? No. Of course not. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
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