eyeball Posted December 7, 2016 Report Posted December 7, 2016 11 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: The Soviet Union was UNDER MY BED. FIFY Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted December 7, 2016 Report Posted December 7, 2016 14 hours ago, eyeball said: FIFY Iran is in Asia...for those who didn't complete grade school. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted August 20, 2017 Report Posted August 20, 2017 Revisiting history.... A recent documentary confirming the CIA and MI6 involvement in the coup of 1953 and subsequent overthrow of the democratically elected prime minister Dr. Mossadegh. The overthrow of the democratically elected government of the state by the US and the british government is misrepresented by a propaganda machine and certain news outles that Iran was on the verge of falling to the hands of communists and replicating a gulags system similar to USSR back then. This is a total fabrication to perpetuate a confusion and divert attention from the fact that the brits were actually pissed off with Mossadegh nationalising Iran's oil. 1 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted August 20, 2017 Report Posted August 20, 2017 Gee...who knew that the UN Iran Crisis of 1946 was fabricated by the rest of the planet to make Mossadeq and his Tudeh allies look bad 7 years later. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Posted August 20, 2017 On 12/6/2016 at 1:46 AM, Altai said: Its sick to claim Iran is the key for ME peace, for a country which is murdered about 500.000 civilians until now together Syrian Army. First off the allegation is ridiculous. It is Bashir Assad not Iran. Iran revolutionary guards (not Iran but a branch of armed forced) joined the conflict recently and fighting against ISIS and Assad's opposition. It was Russia, the only foreign power who bombed civilians and killed hundreds. Second whether you like it or not Iran is a Middle East superpower. There will be no peace in Syria, Yemen, Iraq or Afghanistan without Iran who enjoys a great influence in all those conflicts. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Gee...who knew that the UN Iran Crisis of 1946 was fabricated by the rest of the planet to make Mossadeq and his Tudeh allies look bad 7 years later. He was talking about 1953 not 1946. There are two separate issues 7 years apart. In 1946 the Soviets stayed in Azeri province and refused to take their army out. So a complaint was logged with UN and Soviets had to withdraw and then the Shah sent his army to defeat the rebels in that province (very unpopular with the population I might add) and re-captured the Iranian territory. I am sure Mossadegh was backing all that efforts to keep Iran's territorial integrity. But in 1953 the crisis was that a democratically elected government who nationalized Iran's oil industry and stopped it from being robbed by the damn colonial power (the damn British PM Winston Churchill, hope his soul burn in hell forever) was overthrown by a military coup (similar to 1973 coup against popular government of Allende in Chile) which was sponsored by CIA and supported by British. Down with Russia, USA and Britain. I hope all three pay a heavy price for the atrocities they have committed over many decades against many weaker nations whose only guilt was to have a desire to become free and independent. Edited August 20, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted August 20, 2017 Report Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: He was talking about 1953 not 1946. There are two separate issues 7 years apart. In 1946 the Soviets stayed in Azeri province and refused to take their army out. So a complaint was logged with UN and Soviets had to withdraw and then the Shah sent his army to defeat the rebels in that province (very unpopular with the population I might add) and re-captured the Iranian territory. I am sure Mossadegh was backing all that efforts to keep Iran's territorial integrity. But in 1953 the crisis was that a democratically elected government who nationalized Iran's oil industry and stopped it from being robbed by the damn colonial power (the damn British PM Winston Churchill, hope his soul burn in fire forever) was overthrown by a military coup (similar to 1973 coup against popular government of Allende in Chile) which was sponsored by CIA and supported by British. Down with Russia, USA and Britain. I hope all three pay a heavy price for the atrocities they have committed over many decades against many weaker nations whose only guilt was to have a desire to become independent. Yeah, Mossadeq would have just been a toddler in 1946. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
SpankyMcFarland Posted August 26, 2017 Report Posted August 26, 2017 The pro-conflict fanatics in the US and Iran are strong right now. Both want brinkmanship but not outright war to strengthen their domestic positions. Unfortunately, the Straits of Hormuz are, as described, a narrow waterway and right next to Iran so the possibility of catastrophic miscalculation has risen considerably. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted September 25, 2017 Report Posted September 25, 2017 A new difficulty for both Iran and the US is the plebiscite in Kurdish Iraq. At the moment, they both oppose the vote but, given the support the Kurds have rendered against ISIL, Trump will be under tremendous pressure to return the favour. Quote
Altai Posted September 25, 2017 Report Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Iran is just another shitty country in the World that causing problems. It cannot be an actor in something related to "peace" and "justice". Like as many other countries. Its just another shitty regime that have to be destroyed sooner or later but for sure. Edited September 25, 2017 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) Do not attack the country or its nation who are the real victims in all these. It is not any worse than Turkey but rather much better. I had a friend who visited Turkey Iran and Pakistan who said Iran was the best among the three and Turkey the worse as the latter being most corrupt and he was welcomed by throwing rocks at him on the Turkish roads and the former the friendliest and safest. The Superpowers play politics in the world like a game of chess and the weak nations become victims. If it wasn't for the US sponsored military coup in 1953 Iran would have been as good as any European country now.You should know better. You are lucky that I don't know how to give a negative point as your post above for sure deserves one. Edited October 1, 2017 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 5, 2017 Report Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) The Iranians are naturally going to support the Shia side in most conflicts. If they don't who else will? That doesn't make all these groups 'terrorists'. For example, in Yemen the Iranian-backed Houthis control Northern Yemen and the Sunnis control Southern Yemen. The sensible thing would be to repartition the country. Edited October 5, 2017 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
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