Shady Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Posted November 6, 2014 OSHA Tax cuts Deregualtion of Wall St. OSHA, how so? Tax cuts is a regulation? What deregulation did Bush do? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 Next they will say that Bush repealed Glass-Steagall. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Posted November 6, 2014 Here is a lengthy report on regulations cut by the Dubya regime. Center for Effective Government, The Bush Legacy: An Assault on Public Protections Just tell me which regulation was deregulated. The specific one. By President Bush. Give me the day the law was changed, and which law it was, and how it was changed. Should be pretty simple. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 Which regulations were cut by Bush? Name one. Just one. Here is a lengthy report on regulations cut by the Dubya regime. Center for Effective Government, The Bush Legacy: An Assault on Public Protections Well, yeah. Besides those! Quote
cybercoma Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 Just tell me which regulation was deregulated. The specific one. By President Bush. Give me the day the law was changed, and which law it was, and how it was changed. Should be pretty simple. Do you really need someone to read it to you? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 Do you really need someone to read it to you? Doubt it would help. You will recall that old adage about "there are none so blind...." Quote
cybercoma Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 I'm fond of the line, "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you." Quote
Shady Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Posted November 6, 2014 Fine, if it's so easy, just copy and paste the law that was changed. Quote
Shady Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Posted November 6, 2014 Next they will say that Bush repealed Glass-Steagall. Yup. They just go by what the blogs tell them. Bush musta dun it! He musta! Quote
sharkman Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 I'm fond of the line, "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you." My favorite is, "You have to sign it so you can find out what's in it." Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 I'm fond of the line, "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you." Also quite appropriate. Quote
guyser Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 OSHA, how so? Tax cuts is a regulation? What deregulation did Bush do? You asked for one, got a lot more than that. Now you dance ...er scramble to save face. Should have looked into it before shooting your big mouth off. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 You asked for one, got a lot more than that. Now you dance ...er scramble to save face. Should have looked into it before shooting your big mouth off. Here's some more from an article on the eve of Bush's departure. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/dec/14/george-bush-midnight-regulations Bush's midnight regulations will:• Make it easier for coal companies to dump waste from strip-mining into valleys and streams. • Ease the building of coal-fired power stations nearer to national parks. • Allow people to carry loaded and concealed weapons in national parks. • Open up millions of acres to mining for oil shale. • Allow healthcare workers to opt out of giving treatment for religious or moral reasons, thus weakening abortion rights. • Hurt road safety by allowing truck drivers to stay at the wheel for 11 consecutive hours. Nope. No deregulation to see here. Quote
guyser Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 Nope. No deregulation to see here.One thing for sure, the goalposts always move when some posters get pinned down. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 One thing for sure, the goalposts always move when some posters get pinned down. Mind you those were just the things he threw out there in the last hour of his 8 years in office. Quote
Shady Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Posted November 6, 2014 You asked for one, got a lot more than that. Now you dance ...er scramble to save face. Should have looked into it before shooting your big mouth off. I asked for one, and I'm still waiting. What about OSHA? What Wall Street deregulation? Tax cuts are not regulations. For the love of god, it can't be that difficult. Just tell how the law was changed. What regulation was deregulated? Somebody must be able to come up with something right? On such and such date, congress sent up a bill that Bush signed that deregulated something? You guys still have nothing? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 Mind you those were just the things he threw out there in the last hour of his 8 years in office. What do ya bet some markers got called in? Quote
Shady Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Posted November 6, 2014 Here's some more from an article on the eve of Bush's departure. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/dec/14/george-bush-midnight-regulations Nope. No deregulation to see here. So deregulation on Bush's departure led to the mortgage problem that happened before his departure? What? Huh? So supposid deregulation of mining, and power stations, healthcare religious exemptions, and truck drivers negatively impacted the housing market, lowered lending standards several years earlier, and sent Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into crisis? What? Huh? Quote
Shady Posted November 6, 2014 Author Report Posted November 6, 2014 Here, I'll provide an example of how it's done. Then you guys can follow. President Clinton signed into law, legislation that deregulated the banking industry, by removing regulations that kept commercial banks separate from investment banks. This was done in the fall of 1999, when President Clinton approved the legislation. Ok, now it's your turn. I'll even start you off. President Bush signed into law, legislation that deregulated ......., by removing regulations that .............. This was done in ................, when President Bush approved of the legislation. Quote
guyser Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 FUnny...you asked this and got an answer. Which regulations were cut by Bush? Name one. Just one.I name one, actually two and no of course instead of being honest we get this malarkey... I asked for one, and I'm still waiting. What about OSHA? What Wall Street deregulation? Tax cuts are not regulations. For the love of god, it can't be that difficult. Just tell how the law was changed. What regulation was deregulated? Somebody must be able to come up with something right? On such and such date, congress sent up a bill that Bush signed that deregulated something? You guys still have nothing?2007 the Uptick Law 2004 Net Capital Rule 2003 PRedatory Lending Rules. You have nothing shady, but it wont stop you from moving the goalposts. So go ahead, its expected Quote
Argus Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 Here, I'll provide an example of how it's done. Then you guys can follow. President Clinton signed into law, legislation that deregulated the banking industry, by removing regulations that kept commercial banks separate from investment banks. This was done in the fall of 1999, when President Clinton approved the legislation. This was the bill supported unanimously by the House and Senate, right? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
kimmy Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 Yes, Clinton started the deregulation train. And obviously it was a big mistake. So why are the Republican cheerleaders here so excited about putting both houses in the hands of a group that are promising to undo what little regulation was put back in place following the fiasco of 2008? Current Republican rhetoric calls Dodd-Frank "Obamacare for the banking industry" and they're committed to killing the Volcker rule. Who, other than banks, is asking for that? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
kimmy Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 Eighteen-year-old Republican Saira Blair will become the youngest state lawmaker in West Virginia history. She must be a bank owner or coal plant owner. I was not implying that the people who won election on Tuesday were bankers or coal company owners. Rather, I am saying that the big winners on Tuesday are the super-rich, Wall Street and the banks, and energy companies. I think it's stupid to be excited that there are more women in office now. It's a bunch of sock-puppets for the wealthy and for powerful industries. There's more female sock-puppets this year? yaaaay team. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 Rather, I am saying that the big winners on Tuesday are the super-rich, Wall Street and the banks, and energy companies. Lots of other winners too, but that wouldn't work for the usual empty class warfare arguments. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 Lots of other winners too, but that wouldn't work for the usual empty class warfare arguments. Naw, I think Kimmy pretty well covered all the winners. What exactly is "empty class warfare"? Quote
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