Shots Fired On Parliament Hill

[On Guard for Thee]

And basically those offenses have to involve military people or assets if they are committed by a non CF person. As far as the peace officer thing goes the captain of any Canadian registered aircraft has that same capacity.

[guyser]

From my link...

Military Police:

•

Routinely function within the civilian

criminal and military justice systems, and

are recognized as peace officers in the

Criminal Code of Canada.

•

Have jurisdiction to arrest all persons

who are subject to the Code of Service

Discipline (CSD) both inside and outside

Canada. This includes civilians who accompany a military member outside Canada (For example

family members who are posted overseas with a military member).

•

May, in regards to a service offence, detain or arrest without a warrant any person subject to the

CSD, regardless of the person’s rank or status.

Tips for Civilians

While a civilian commits an infraction on a base,

the Military Police will be in charge of the

intervention and until they call the Civilian

Police for transfer.

Military Police can also give out traffic tickets

to civilians while they are traveling within the

confines of a base.

127

[Derek 2.0]

Link please.

OH...so they in fact DONT have the same powers, otherwise they would have charged , not turned over.

Holy shit guys, get with it will ya?

Why didnt they just charge him.....if they have the same powers as you have repeatedly said.

Look Derek, youre a knowledgeable military guy and I would aquiesce to your knowledge miltarily, but in this case, the de facto statement that youve made, that being they have the same enforcement powers as any other cop is wrong.

Go here, read page 127. It will set you and others straight, there is NO power granted to CFMP's other than assets and DND prop and those under CSD .

Again, from DND:

Persons not subject to the Code of Service Discipline may also be subject to arrest by the military police acting as a peace officer, where for example, an offence has been committed on CF property¹⁹ or in relation to a Defence establishment.²⁰ In order to do so, however, there has to be a link or a factor linking the alleged offence to the military organization. Furthermore, the link will be sufficient if the alleged offence occurred in a military establishment. Finally, the Military Police will need to have conducted the arrest in relation to the alleged offence within a certain perimeter surrounding the military establishment and within a reasonable delay after the alleged offence occurred.

[overthere]

The Criminal Code of Canada recognizes Military Police members as peace officers.

There are many peace officers that are not specifically police.

Park wardens, provincial game wardens, sheriffs, some bylaw officers, transit cops in some cases, some CBSA officers and so on. I know Parks Canada wardens have police powers, and they can lay charges under the National Parks Act, Criminal Code and provincial highways Acts.

[guyser]

Thank you Derek, I am happy you finally agree that your statement was wrong.

If ya dont think so, read your captioned quote below the 'Again, from DND" prose.

So NO, they do not have the same powers as any regular cop

Now back to originally scheduled scare mongering.

[guyser]

There are many peace officers that are not specifically police.

Park wardens, provincial game wardens, sheriffs, some bylaw officers, transit cops in some cases, some CBSA officers and so on. I know Parks Canada wardens have police powers, and they can lay charges under the National Parks Act, Criminal Code and provincial highways Acts.

Thats true, but the caveat is missing.

Transit cops--> on tranist prop or emoployees of transit

Parks Canada Wardens----> on Parks Cda prop

MP---> on DND prop and assets.

This isnt particularly hard to grasp

[Derek 2.0]

Thank you Derek, I am happy you finally agree that your statement was wrong.

If ya dont think so, read your captioned quote below the 'Again, from DND" prose.

So NO, they do not have the same powers as any regular cop

Now back to originally scheduled scare mongering.

Linked (on the same page) to:

"A military policeman, while acting as a peace officer and exercising authority or duties conferred upon him by the Act, is not subject to municipal or provincial restraint so long as his actions arise as a result of incidents which took place on or in respect to the defence establishment".

Clearly, as stated and contended by yourself several pages back, Military Police are afforded greater powers then regular citizens.

[Derek 2.0]

Thats true, but the caveat is missing.

Transit cops--> on tranist prop or emoployees of transit

Parks Canada Wardens----> on Parks Cda prop

MP---> on DND prop and assets.

This isnt particularly hard to grasp

Or in conjunction with local law enforcement.......ie DFO, prison guards etc aiding local police during the 2010 Winter Games....

[guyser]

Clearly, as stated and contended by yourself several pages back, Military Police are afforded greater powers then regular citizens.

Not off base involving non-CSD, DND prop or assets they dont.

[Derek 2.0]

Not off base involving non-CSD, DND prop or assets they dont.

Are you suggesting:

military police acting as a peace officer, where for example, an offence has been committed on CF property¹⁹ or in relation to a Defence establishment.

is wrong? None the less you stated:

MPs only have authority on DND prop, assets et al. Once off base, they are as good as any other adult. IOW, they aint got shit.

Which is incorrect based in relation to the Criminal Code affording them the rights of a Peace Officer.

[Derek 2.0]

Alleged shooter named:

Suspect, reportedly Canadian-born Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, killed in Centre Block shootout

Edited October 22, 2014 by Derek 2.0

[guyser]

Or in conjunction with local law enforcement.......ie DFO, prison guards etc aiding local police during the 2010 Winter Games....

Er no, thats false too.

It was the RCMP in the lead, not local police.

The Fed govt established the Vancouver Integrated Security Unit (V2010ISU) with the RCMP in charge.

In fact,the Feds established the Office of the Coordinator for Security at the Privy Council Office . That was to integrate all the agenices security forces/personnel/knowledge into one.

[Boges]

I like how the name is English, French and Arabic all at the same time. Can't really extrapolate too much based on the name.

[guyser]

Which is incorrect based in relation to the Criminal Code affording them the rights of a Peace Officer.

...On DND porp, or to do with assets of DND.

It aint hard to understand. Whats the problem?

[guyser]

I like how the name is English, French and Arabic all at the same time. Can't really extrapolate too much based on the name.

LOL

Watch, some will try.

Should be fun watching the moron Ezrunt try and do so.

[Derek 2.0]

Er no, thats false too.

It was the RCMP in the lead, not local police.

The Fed govt established the Vancouver Integrated Security Unit (V2010ISU) with the RCMP in charge.

In fact,the Feds established the Office of the Coordinator for Security at the Privy Council Office . That was to integrate all the agenices security forces/personnel/knowledge into one.

The RCMP are local police in BC and provide local policing in the majority of communities that held venues.........We don't have a Provincial Force.

[cybercoma]

MP---> on DND prop and assets.

I have seen the MPs show up to a bar to drag military "bros" out for broing it up too hard. But then military personnel are a military asset. I've never seen them out and about in the city arresting people or pulling over civilians outside of the base.

[cybercoma]

This is pretty far off topic, no?

[guyser]

The RCMP are local police in BC and provide local policing in the majority of communities that held venues.........We don't have a Provincial Force.

Ok thanks for that, anyone knows that by the way.

[guyser]

This is pretty far off topic, no?

It shouold never have gone this far off tho.

But blanket de facto statements need to be corrected, even if I do them.

SOmeone says " the sun rises in the east"....ok, no contest.

Say something like " someone has authority like any cop ' and thats blatantly false and leads to disinformation being sent out.

Kind of like the 5 shooters on Parliament Hill? Or was it 4?

[Derek 2.0]

Ok thanks for that, anyone knows that by the way.

Then why did you state:

Er no, thats false too.

It was the RCMP in the lead, not local police.

The RCMP are local police, that were supported by various other Peace Officers, from numerous other forces, including members of the Military Police.

[WWWTT]

Ok folks, time to shut the freekin stupid tv off!

It's time to make dinner and use the washroom. Maybe take a shower and go out for a jog.

Derek 2.0, in your case maybe you should put a fresh diaper on and carry on your 30 comments an hour pace.

And keep a couple fresh diapers on hand it's going to be a long night buddy

WWWTT

[Argus]

I like how the name is English, French and Arabic all at the same time. Can't really extrapolate too much based on the name.

He is of Algerian descent. I don't think it's a stretch to figure he was Muslim and that the motivation here was similar to the other Muslim crackpot in Quebec.

[guyser]

Then why did you state:

The RCMP are local police, that were supported by various other Peace Officers, from numerous other forces, including members of the Military Police.

The RCMP are the Canadian national police service and an agency of the Ministry of Public Safety Canada.

The Olympic Gamnes were held in VANCOUVER.

The local police in VANCOUVER are the Vancouver Police Dept.

So the local police did not do the security. They were linked in with the RCMP, that federal police force that wears red and have funny hats and all that? Ya know johdpurs too?

The games, should they have been called the 2010 British Columbia Olympic Games may have seen the community police providers in the lead, which in this case would be the RCMP, but most everyone......most....arent aware of that fact.

[Shady]

(Reuters) - Canadian police are investigating a man named as Michael Zehaf-Bibeau as a possible suspect in the shootings around parliament, a source familiar with the matter said on Wednesday.

Two U.S. officials said that U.S. agencies have been advised that the shooter was a Canadian convert to Islam. One of the officials said that the man was from Quebec.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/22/us-canada-attacks-suspect-idUSKCN0IB2IX20141022

Is anyone really all that surprised?