bush_cheney2004 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Maybe he is quoting the "black" male perpetrators of thousands of other "black" male homicides each year. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Black Dog Posted August 25, 2014 Author Report Posted August 25, 2014 Who are you quoting with that? Paraphrasing the sentiment. Quote
cybercoma Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 I don't need to have 'regard' for thugs. I don't care what happens to thugs. That you care desperately is more an indication of your lack of judgement than any superior sense of empathy or morality. You seem to have a really tough time getting it. Even if Brown robbed the store, that has absolutely nothing to do with the cops murdering him when he was unarmed. You don't shoot someone 6 times for being non-compliant and aggressive. You don't shoot someone 6 times for robbing a convenience store. As has been shown numerous times, the cops don't shoot someone 6 times when they're wielding a knife most of the time. But that's ok, you seem to be all up in arms when Sammy Yatim was shot a couple more times than Brown, while wielding a knife on public transit. For that case you condemned the officers involved. But then again Sammy Yatim wasn't a "black thug" either. Your posts are completely public. If people want to go back and see the difference in your reaction between the two cases they can. The guy who wasn't black and wielding a knife was wronged, while the unarmed black kid had it coming. It's pretty clear you have a severely biased perspective and that bias is quite clearly around race. So don't sit here an act all high and mighty when you're no better than Lictor; you just have the reflexivity to hide it better. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Paraphrasing the sentiment. Oh OK, so when you say ...Quoting for truth. The "the n***er had it coming!", you're not really quoting anybody and you're not really truthful either - Ironic! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 You seem to have a really tough time getting it. Even if Brown robbed the store, that has absolutely nothing to do with the cops murdering him when he was unarmed. You don't shoot someone 6 times for being non-compliant and aggressive. You don't shoot someone 6 times for robbing a convenience store. As has been shown numerous times, the cops don't shoot someone 6 times when they're wielding a knife most of the time. But that's ok, you seem to be all up in arms when Sammy Yatim was shot a couple more times than Brown, while wielding a knife on public transit. For that case you condemned the officers involved. But then again Sammy Yatim wasn't a "black thug" either. Your posts are completely public. If people want to go back and see the difference in your reaction between the two cases they can. The guy who wasn't black and wielding a knife was wronged, while the unarmed black kid had it coming. It's pretty clear you have a severely biased perspective and that bias is quite clearly around race. So don't sit here an act all high and mighty when you're no better than Lictor; you just have the reflexivity to hide it better. He wasn't shot for robbing a store, why not wait and see why he was shot before condemning the cop. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
cybercoma Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Why should I have to wait? If they can't report why he was shot now, then I don't need to wait for them to come up with some cover story. The reason he was shot should be obvious from day 1. Quote
Black Dog Posted August 25, 2014 Author Report Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Oh OK, so when you say ...Quoting for truth. The "the n***er had it coming!", you're not really quoting anybody and you're not really truthful either - Ironic! I'm sorry your message board reading comprehension skills are shoddy. The quoted for truth portion refers to the post by kimmy I was clearly quoting. The portion in scare quotes was my own paraphrase of the mentality shared by some posters and members of the general public. I am confident that it wouldn't be difficult to find that same sentiment expressed in those very words somewhere out there. Edited August 25, 2014 by Black Dog Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Why should I have to wait? If they can't report why he was shot now, then I don't need to wait for them to come up with some cover story. The reason he was shot should be obvious from day 1. Because it's not about you. The cop is now a defendant and defence feel that trying their case in court is better than throwing it out to a lynch mob to decide. If he wasn't a defendant, we'd know a lot more. It's pretty foolish to think that the defence is gonna release all the evidence to the public before a grand jury hears it. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Black Dog Posted August 25, 2014 Author Report Posted August 25, 2014 Because it's not about you. The cop is now a defendant and defence feel that trying their case in court is better than throwing it out to a lynch mob to decide. If he wasn't a defendant, we'd know a lot more. It's pretty foolish to think that the defence is gonna release all the evidence to the public before a grand jury hears it. Lots of information (the video, the incident report which proved blank) has been released, but only after pressure from media and lobby groups. The lack of transparency has contributed greatly to the unrest and the perception that the game is rigged. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Lots of information (the video, the incident report which proved blank) has been released, but only after pressure from media and lobby groups. The lack of transparency has contributed greatly to the unrest and the perception that the game is rigged. If he wasn't in the process on getting indicted, then I'd agree with you. The guy deserves to defend himself, and tossing all the evidence out in public and allow the race baiters to skew the grand jury just makes things worse. Despite what people want to know, releasing information this soon is not good for anybody. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 You seem to have a really tough time getting it. Even if Brown robbed the store, that has absolutely nothing to do with the cops murdering him when he was unarmed. You don't shoot someone 6 times for being non-compliant and aggressive. You don't shoot someone 6 times for robbing a convenience store. As has been shown numerous times, the cops don't shoot someone 6 times when they're wielding a knife most of the time. But that's ok, you seem to be all up in arms when Sammy Yatim was shot a couple more times than Brown, while wielding a knife on public transit. For that case you condemned the officers involved. But then again Sammy Yatim wasn't a "black thug" either. Your posts are completely public. If people want to go back and see the difference in your reaction between the two cases they can. The guy who wasn't black and wielding a knife was wronged, while the unarmed black kid had it coming. It's pretty clear you have a severely biased perspective and that bias is quite clearly around race. So don't sit here an act all high and mighty when you're no better than Lictor; you just have the reflexivity to hide it better. Does it really matter from a fundamental point of view whether he was shot 6 times or just once in the head? Harping about being shot 6 times is just rallying stuff for Sharpton, Jackson and the panthers. In fact, being shot 6 times supports the cop's story of how the guy just wouldn't stop or go down. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
On Guard for Thee Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Because it's not about you. The cop is now a defendant and defence feel that trying their case in court is better than throwing it out to a lynch mob to decide. If he wasn't a defendant, we'd know a lot more. It's pretty foolish to think that the defence is gonna release all the evidence to the public before a grand jury hears it. Um, you actually have to be charged with something before you become a defendant. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Um, you actually have to be charged with something before you become a defendant. Not in this case! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
cybercoma Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Does it really matter from a fundamental point of view whether he was shot 6 times or just once in the head? Harping about being shot 6 times is just rallying stuff for Sharpton, Jackson and the panthers. In fact, being shot 6 times supports the cop's story of how the guy just wouldn't stop or go down. Logic. You should look into it. Quote
dre Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 I thought so but the reporting posters didn't agree. It's no secret that me and BC-2004 are in a close race for most despised posters here that aren't banned outright. Not most despised... Most facepalmed. Theres a difference. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
dre Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Does it really matter from a fundamental point of view whether he was shot 6 times or just once in the head? Harping about being shot 6 times is just rallying stuff for Sharpton, Jackson and the panthers. In fact, being shot 6 times supports the cop's story of how the guy just wouldn't stop or go down. Yeah it does matter. The more bullets you pump into a guy the harder it is to say that each shot was an act of defending yourself against a deadly threat. The first shot you pump into a guy quite possibly is... the tenth almost certainly isnt... and the hundredth DEFINATELY isnt. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Hal 9000 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Yeah it does matter. The more bullets you pump into a guy the harder it is to say that each shot was an act of defending yourself against a deadly threat. The first shot you pump into a guy quite possibly is... the tenth almost certainly isnt... and the hundredth DEFINATELY isnt. Well, If amount of shots matter than it makes prefect sense that cops should target the chest area first and make sure that the guy goes down with one bullet. If I was the defence, I would certainly use the 6 shots to convey just how determined Brown was to get at Wilson. Me, if I was shot even once in the arm, I'd drop flat to the ground like a pancake. Edited August 25, 2014 by Hal 9000 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Yeah it does matter. The more bullets you pump into a guy the harder it is to say that each shot was an act of defending yourself against a deadly threat. Nope...not after the threshold for deadly force has been reached. Then it is as many shots as possible until the threat is removed and/or the perp is down. This is how law enforcement is trained. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Derek 2.0 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Well, If amount of shots matter than it makes prefect sense that cops should target the chest area first and make sure that the guy goes down with one bullet. One shot, one kill only happens in the movies: ........The police are trained to continue to shoot until the target stops moving. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Nope...not after the threshold for deadly force has been reached. Then it is as many shots as possible until the threat is removed and/or the perp is down. This is how law enforcement is trained. Agreed 100%.........And most calibers used by police are not indicative of “stopping power”, with a preference given to higher capacity magazines that fit flush to the gun and in turn holster. Quote
Smallc Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Yeah it does matter. The more bullets you pump into a guy the harder it is to say that each shot was an act of defending yourself against a deadly threat. The first shot you pump into a guy quite possibly is... the tenth almost certainly isnt... and the hundredth DEFINATELY isnt. Police shoot to kill. The FBI is trained to unload their clip into someone. There's a reason. Quote
jbg Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) You seem to have a really tough time getting it. Even if Brown robbed the store, that has absolutely nothing to do with the cops murdering him when he was unarmed. You don't shoot someone 6 times for being non-compliant and aggressive. You don't shoot someone 6 times for robbing a convenience store. As has been shown numerous times, the cops don't shoot someone 6 times when they're wielding a knife most of the time.It has to do with the way Brown presents himself. Would it be possible for me, a successful attorney, to rob a liquor store and then calmly go about my business? Possible but highly unlikely. If someone makes "thugging" a life style it's a different story. And someone will get hurt, badly. Lots of information (the video, the incident report which proved blank) has been released, but only after pressure from media and lobby groups. The lack of transparency has contributed greatly to the unrest and the perception that the game is rigged.How abut the arrival of people like Al Sharpton to stir the pot? Do you realize that very few arrested in the disturbances were from Fergueson? Edited August 26, 2014 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Not most despised... Most facepalmed. Theres a difference.I'm not even sure what a "face-palm" is. Maybe I should look it up in the "Urban Dictionary" or ask one of my two teen-aged sons. It doesn't sound like an adult term. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
On Guard for Thee Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 Nope...not after the threshold for deadly force has been reached. Then it is as many shots as possible until the threat is removed and/or the perp is down. This is how law enforcement is trained. A bit of a "loosey goosey" description of the training. But more importantly in this case, there are a lot of question marks about this "threshold" you speak of having been reached. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Posted August 26, 2014 A bit of a "loosey goosey" description of the training. How so? The description is apt with the use of deadly force. Quote
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