Wilber Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Why not? Want to know how have your cake and eat it too? More guns. Yes, the world would be so much more perfecter. Edited July 10, 2014 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
cybercoma Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 Without "scaling" that graph looks like this. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 where did that electrical engineer blogger get his data? That graph doesn't represent a damn thing. He just overlapped values when in reality the US line should be way above the Canadian. That's not misleading, it's just an outright fabrication. No it's not....his (Canadian) purpose was to demonstrate that gun control measures in Canada did not significantly change the homicide trends compared to the U.S. That's why they are "scaled". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Moonlight Graham Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 You should learn how to use one now. That way you won't be struggling when one of these 'unlikely' scenarios occurs. I'm pretty good with a hockey stick and a chainsaw. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Derek 2.0 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 More flailing. We do control our borders. A Canadian wouldn't want to cross the border to one of those 24 hour gunshops and buy an AR 15 and try to re-enter Canada. We don't need to cross the border.....we can do it from the comfort of home: http://www.irunguns.ca/ Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Posted July 10, 2014 If everyone in the US and Canada had this same approach, civilian-on-civilian gun deaths in these countries would be zero. Over 11,000 deaths in the US prevented in 2013 alone, almost 200 prevented in Canada in 2012. What if everybody in the US and Canada renounced all forms of violent behaviour…..wouldn’t that be an even greater outcome? Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 Actually, guns are highly regulated. In the United States this is very true…..the problem, a great many of the laws on the books aren’t enforced. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 11, 2014 Author Report Posted July 11, 2014 Agreed....a nation is responsible for policing its borders. Worrying about gun homicides/suicides in the U.S. from Canada is a fool's wish. It would be nice if the USA would actually police the border to the south. Waves of undocumented illegal immigrants coming across in larger numbers than ever. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 11, 2014 Author Report Posted July 11, 2014 And this thread went 'south' in just under one page. Not a record, but pretty good for the participants in this thread. Be proud. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 And this thread went 'south' in just under one page. Not a record, but pretty good for the participants in this thread. Be proud. How did it "go South"? What was your intent of starting this thread........Was it yet another “gun control thread” or a "conspiracy theory" topic? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 How did it "go South"? I guess were were only supposed to talk about shootings in Texas....another one should come along any minute now. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 I guess were were only supposed to talk about shootings in Texas....another one should come along any minute now. Be careful what you wish for. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 I guess were were only supposed to talk about shootings in Texas....another one should come along any minute now. I don't know.........after rereading the OP, I think the author might be pointing towards some form of conspiracy.......hence why I've asked for clarification. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 11, 2014 Author Report Posted July 11, 2014 How did it "go South"? What was your intent of starting this thread........Was it yet another “gun control thread” or a "conspiracy theory" topic? The way this went is part of the reason I do not create the threads as much as I used to. I am able to predict how many will respond to a particular thing. I'll leave this thread up to you guys now. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 11, 2014 Report Posted July 11, 2014 I don't know.........after rereading the OP, I think the author might be pointing towards some form of conspiracy.......hence why I've asked for clarification. No conspiracy of course.....there are about 87 fatal gun homicides/suicides in the U.S. each day, and about 190 non fatal injuries. That's each day....on average. There have been more such shootings in Texas since this OP incident. Sorry conspiracy aficionados......just normal, garden variety suicides, murders, and aggravated assaults. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Derek 2.0 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 Sorry conspiracy aficionados......just normal, garden variety suicides, murders, and aggravated assaults. From what I’ve read, it appears an estranged husband……..How many daily deaths in the United States are attributed to domestic disputes……I’d guess a good percent of those daily homicide figures. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 No conspiracy of course.....there are about 87 fatal gun homicides/suicides in the U.S. each day, and about 190 non fatal injuries. That's each day....on average. There have been more such shootings in Texas since this OP incident. Sorry conspiracy aficionados......just normal, garden variety suicides, murders, and aggravated assaults. Ah what the hell, it keeps those gun shops in business. There's money in guns and money in paranoia. Quote
Big Guy Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 I would assume that according to the more zealous members of the NRA, this tragedy could have been avoided if every one of those children and adults who was killed were wearing a sidearm. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Moonlight Graham Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 What if everybody in the US and Canada renounced all forms of violent behaviour…..wouldn’t that be an even greater outcome? Yes. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
On Guard for Thee Posted July 12, 2014 Report Posted July 12, 2014 I would assume that according to the more zealous members of the NRA, this tragedy could have been avoided if every one of those children and adults who was killed were wearing a sidearm. And you'd be correct. Wayne Lapierre has already stated that "the best way to stop a bad man with a gun, is with a good man with a gun". I assume that applies even if the good "man" is only 6 years old. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) I would assume that according to the more zealous members of the NRA, this tragedy could have been avoided if every one of those children and adults who was killed were wearing a sidearm. If the adults had of being carrying, it’s very possible……guns save lives daily....... The sound of a racking 870 is understood in all languages, in all countries of the world, day and night. Edited July 13, 2014 by Derek 2.0 Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 13, 2014 Report Posted July 13, 2014 In Canada we prefer the sound of not hearing gunfire up and down the street. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Posted July 14, 2014 So here is the sole survivor of this incident. And apparently it takes only a couple days to recover from a fractured skull due to a grazing bullet. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/13/15-year-old-whose-6-family-members-were-killed-is-recovering/ Cassidy suffered a fractured skull when a bullet grazed her head. Authorities say she survived by playing dead and called police to warn that Haskell intended to go to her grandparents' house next. What's with the horns? Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted July 14, 2014 Report Posted July 14, 2014 If the adults had of being carrying, it’s very possible……guns save lives daily....... Guns kill a lot more people daily than they save. Statistically, you are far more likely to be shot if you own a gun than if you don't. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
waldo Posted July 14, 2014 Report Posted July 14, 2014 What's with the horns? it's a Texas thang! Quote
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