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So Khadr has been granted bail and the Harper government has promised to appeal. How much more of our money is Harper ready to spend on this losing cause?

We'll only know after the government's final appeal...of Khadr's compensation settlement.

What is he trying to prove?

That Canadians are a bunch of hard-boiled war-mongering dicks with little regard for human rights when it comes to our strategic interests elsewhere in the world.

We put the economy ahead of the environment and social justice with the same sort of screw you attitude too.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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Then he's only got another 60-70 years left of time owed.

Or we could just do him in now - which would be the right choice.

We here in Canada have long ago evolved beyond the kind of moronic idea you seem to be trying to flog. But you could emigrate to,say, Afghanistan and perhaps be more satiated. B bye.

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We here in Canada have long ago evolved beyond the kind of moronic idea you seem to be trying to flog. But you could emigrate to,say, Afghanistan and perhaps be more satiated. B bye.

Well, if that's true of him it's certainly true of Khadr. How the left can defend such backwards thinking is beyond me.

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Well, if that's true of him it's certainly true of Khadr. How the left can defend such backwards thinking is beyond me.

The backward thinking is pretty much the realm of the right it seems. I guess you would prefer to do him in just as quick s your buddy Hydra. Killing people is something we on the left would like to see at least curtailed. Although I will let others speak for themselves.

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The backward thinking is pretty much the realm of the right it seems. I guess you would prefer to do him in just as quick s your buddy Hydra. Killing people is something we on the left would like to see at least curtailed. Although I will let others speak for themselves.

And "the left" is exactly what is wrong with this country.

That little ***** should have been summarily executed on site. Now my city has to deal with him.

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And "the left" is exactly what is wrong with this country.

That little ***** should have been summarily executed on site. Now my city has to deal with him.

Yep, as I already stated, you righties like the idea of the state killing people. I guess that comes from your lack of ability to think much beyond the concept of revenge, or maybe just the end of your nose. Luckily this country has progressed. Edited by Michael Hardner
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The backward thinking is pretty much the realm of the right it seems. I guess you would prefer to do him in just as quick s your buddy Hydra. Killing people is something we on the left would like to see at least curtailed. Although I will let others speak for themselves.

I don't think he should be killed. I certainly don't believe that he should be defended with lame excuses for his actions and beliefs.

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You aspire to murder?

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State-condoned after a guilty verdict at trial for heinous crimes? Absolutely.

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(2010) (2015)
Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38
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And "the left" is exactly what is wrong with this country.

Why do you guys feel like you have to go pick fights half way around the world when you have such a huge enemy right here at home?

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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Why do you guys feel like you have to go pick fights half way around the world when you have such a huge enemy right here at home?

"The left" is protected by law. Kind of like other endangered animals.

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(2010) (2015)
Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38
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That's a pretty lame assed excuse. The law isn't stopping you from killing the people you hate halfway around the world.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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Perhaps.

You know what I can't stand? Those criminals who capture and kill poor, defenseless fish in the ocean. Many of them have children but, no, "those people" don't care.

And what of those "so called people" that pollute the oceans with their internal combustion, greenhouse gas emitting boat motors? The horror!

See how easy it is to sound ridiculous by stretching other people's comments to the extreme?

Damn fishermen.

"racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST

(2010) (2015)
Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38
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You must mean the way Harper stretches the left's words by referring to us as Jihadists whom you both want to see dead. There's a reason why the divide between the left and the right is becoming so visceral in Canada.

Is Harper more reflective of folks like you or is it the other way around?

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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Perhaps.

You know what I can't stand? Those criminals who capture and kill poor, defenseless fish in the ocean. Many of them have children but, no, "those people" don't care.

And what of those "so called people" that pollute the oceans with their internal combustion, greenhouse gas emitting boat motors? The horror!

See how easy it is to sound ridiculous by stretching other people's comments to the extreme?

Damn fishermen.

Let's stay on topic, there is really no need for this garbage.

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You must mean the way Harper stretches the left's words by referring to us as Jihadists whom you both want to see dead. There's a reason why the divide between the left and the right is becoming so visceral in Canada.

Is Harper more reflective of folks like you or is it the other way around?

This is something you and I have brought up several times. The divide and conquer tactics. And you point out it even happens via the PM and the SCC. Which is not good for a country. But more division will happen. Sad.

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Let's stay on topic, there is really no need for this garbage.

...referring to us as Jihadists whom you both want to see dead.

Ahh. I see. It's only "garbage" if someone you disagree with says it.

Understood GH.

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Ahh. I see. It's only "garbage" if someone you disagree with says it.

Understood GH.

We get a lot of 'garbage' on this site in terms of thread drift and other shit. Let's do something about it and not go off on f'n tangents all the f'n time.

Even if I disagree with a point, as long as it is on topic, then I see no real issue. Usually it is the way in some go about it. Being ultra abrasive and acting like they are an a forum for preschoolers. I thought and hope we are still all adults here.

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Anyway, to get back on topic, I resent all the damn tax dollars the Harper gov. will waste (yet again) on trying to continue to prosecute a kid, (now a man) who was very likely coerced into confessing, who has already served pretty much the equivalent of a life sentence, has been tortured at Gitmo, who may have caused the death of a man in a war zone who had invaded his country. But what I resent so much more is the use of this man, who by all accounts has been a model prisoner, as a whipping boy to get, yet again, a few more votes from the base. (base having more than one meaning here)

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Anyway, to get back on topic, I resent all the damn tax dollars the Harper gov. will waste (yet again) on trying to continue to prosecute a kid, (now a man) who was very likely coerced into confessing, who has already served pretty much the equivalent of a life sentence, has been tortured at Gitmo, who may have caused the death of a man in a war zone who had invaded his country. But what I resent so much more is the use of this man, who by all accounts has been a model prisoner, as a whipping boy to get, yet again, a few more votes from the base. (base having more than one meaning here)

If Afghanistan was 'his country' then he should go live there. As to the appeal, the government really has no choice, whatever its own feelings. The system whereby Canadians convicted of crimes in the US are allowed to serve their time in Canada closer to their relatives would be on pretty shaky ground if some Canadian court could simply release those criminals without any government response. Even with the government fighting it such a release might cause damage to that agreement since it is predicated on the assumption the individuals will be required to serve their time here, not be quickly released because of different judicial interpretations.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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Well, if that's true of him it's certainly true of Khadr. How the left can defend such backwards thinking is beyond me.

Because he's a 'minority'. It doesn't matter what he does or who he kills, as long as he's a 'minority' and Harper is against him the Left will throw themselves at his feet and beg to have their bellies tickled. The fact he's an unrepentant Islamic extremist, with all the backward social views that implies has no impact on them. As long as he doesn't lighten his skin up they'll forgive him any amount of anti-Semitism, mysogeny and homophobia.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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Well, if that's true of him it's certainly true of Khadr. How the left can defend such backwards thinking is beyond me.

Backwards thinking like the right to a fair trial and the right not to be tortured and the right not to be used as a child soldier.....such backwards thinking that conservatives just don't get.

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The backward thinking is pretty much the realm of the right it seems

You mean the people who work and pay taxes? How much have the Khadr family contributed since you embraced them as your kind of Canadian and let them in anyway? Any of them ever held a job of any kind in between rants about how evil Canada is?

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"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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