monty16 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Posted July 3, 2014 Don't feign respect when you've failed to show any respect for the opinions of others. If you are deciding to take the high road then do so and in a month or two when you've proven yourself, you can go there and criticize others for their lack of respect. Right now, you don't have the credentials pal! Quote
GostHacked Posted July 3, 2014 Report Posted July 3, 2014 Even though I still maintain that you're propagandized by the US and can't see the truth in what's happening in the Ukraine, I can't criticize you for taking the high road in that comment. Now just try to stick with it. Are you referring to Shady or me with this reply? Careful. Quote
monty16 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Posted July 3, 2014 Careful about what Gosthacked? I think it must be referring to either you or shady but I'm not sure now. It's a bitch when I can't cut and paste. But you be careful because you wouldn't want to complain about a compliment would you. It always leads to more embarrassment than it's worth. And as for my remarks on you or whoever being propagandized by the US? Of course that stands for both of you and a few more too. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 I think it must be referring to either you or shady but I'm not sure now. It's a bitch when I can't cut and paste. But you be careful because you wouldn't want to complain about a compliment would you. It always leads to more embarrassment than it's worth. That is why I said careful. Since you cannot properly direct your comments to whom you are responding too. And you don't need to cut and paste. See that 'quote' button? It makes it easier for you. But I think you are smart enough to handle that as you have done it in the past. Oh, you have no problem with cutting and pasting RT articles. We call that a pebcak or an Id10T error in IT lingo. And as for my remarks on you or whoever being propagandized by the US? Of course that stands for both of you and a few more too. Glad you cleared that up. Now wipe that egg off your face and go read many of my posts. IF you had, you'd know I am not propagandized by the US. If you had read my posts you would also know I am no supporter of Israel. But please keep telling me how I am propagandized by the US media. Geeze, this is very reminiscent of a past member.... but has a different twist/flare to it. Can't quite put my finger on it. Quote
monty16 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 Gosthacked, Are you trying to accuse me of being another member on this forum? And fwiw, I can't use the quote button either. I don't get the quote coming up for some reason. I have a friend who's a computer geek volunteered to work on the problem for me and I'll report back any progress we make. Real smart dude that seems to unbury just about any secret of the internet or fourms such as this. If there are any questions you can ask of me to help you put your finger on your unwarranted accusation, please do ask me. I'm right up front on it and have already dealt with it when I was accused of being a Muslim ex-poster or whatever the hell that was about. Quote
marcus Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 Israel is a racist state that has been terrorizing Palestinians for decades with the support of USA and the UK. The world is learning day by day, despite the distortions from the propaganda machine that depicts the victim as the aggressor and vise versa. Today's Zionists share the same fascist mentality of Germans who killed many Jews in the past. Now, thanks to videos and ease of communication, there is a backlash against the Zionist propaganda. Many progressive Jews too are denouncing the apartheid regime in Israel. History will treat Zionism in the same category with Fascism. Here is the good police of Jerusalem protecting its Arab resident: Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
GostHacked Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 Gosthacked, Are you trying to accuse me of being another member on this forum? Possibly. It is not out of the question since it has happened before. And fwiw, I can't use the quote button either. I don't get the quote coming up for some reason. I have a friend who's a computer geek volunteered to work on the problem for me and I'll report back any progress we make. Real smart dude that seems to unbury just about any secret of the internet or fourms such as this. What are you using IE 4 or something? Surprised you found the sign up link, but cannot find the quote button. It's a problem with your browser. Not the site. But I am guessing you really knew that. If there are any questions you can ask of me to help you put your finger on your unwarranted accusation, please do ask me. I'm right up front on it and have already dealt with it when I was accused of being a Muslim ex-poster or whatever the hell that was about. Up front about it? I kind of doubt it. Quote
monty16 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 Well said Marcus. The truth can't be kept down forever. It's just quite amazing that the power of propaganda has kept it hidden for so long. But eventually what is going to break through is the US beginning to understand that their support of the Zionist tyranny could cost them in revenge attacks because of their support. Or more correctly, more than it already has, because there's no doubt this contributed to the 9/11 attacks. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Wrong....U.S. support for Israel has actually increased to an all time high. There are no more high profile Kennedys for Palestinians to assassinate. Edited July 4, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 Yes....I made your "point" circle the toilet and flush to the cesspool of anti-American and anti-Israeli hatred where it belongs. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
monty16 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 This isn't about hate b_c, it's about the facts. Support for apartheid against the Palestinian people was one of the reasons for the revenge attack on 9/11. I oppose the killinig of innocents in revenge attacks but I have to understand that it will continue to happen as long as there are reasons for seeking revenge. So why do you support the obvious killing of innocent Americans? It's an inescapable conclusion isn't it? I also understand that the big change in US loyalty toward Zionist apartheid won't come until the inevitable happens. The US needs to be proactive and do what it takes to prevent it from happening. More bombing of Muslims in the ME is not it! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 No, the facts are an expressed support of Palestinian policies and actions that call for the destruction of Israel. I will always prefer "Zionism" over "Terrorism". The United States will continue support for its ally Israel, as will Canada and many other nations. Palestine can continue a failed strategy and receive foreign aid crumbs, or get with the program. Americans kill other Americans far more than terrorists, so your argument is dead on arrival. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 This isn't about hate b_c, it's about the facts. Support for apartheid against the Palestinian people was o Weren't you going to explain why you show such enthusiastic support for the brutal apartheid regime in Moscow? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 Israel is a racist state that has been terrorizing Palestinians for decades with the support of USA and the UK. Drivel. In fact, life for the Palestinians was as good as if not better than most of their fellow Arabs up until the Intifada was launched. As their violence against innocent Israelis continued over time, they began to lose access to Israel, culminating in the erection of a big ugly wall. When Isreael largely pulled back from Gaza the Palestinians there elected a terrorist group to government and began firing rockets into Israel, which of course, brought a predictable response. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
monty16 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 I'm not trying to change your mind b_c, I'm just bringing it to the forum's attention again. If the US wants to see more terrorist attacks such as that on 9/11 then it only needs to continue in it's current path. But of course you could always pretend that it wasn't revenge and it was because they are jealous of your big screen t.v. sets! Canada will make the choice too eventually and there's pretty good choice that if it's Harper and his accomplices making the choice then it will be further alignment with US aggression. Chretien demonstrated that the LIberal party didn't stand for that. And really, why would Canada want to interfere in the ME anyway? The CPC only support the US because of economic blackmail if we don't. Same reason why the coalition of the Pacific atolls and tiny European monarchies didn't resist the blackmailing for the latest Iraq war! Quote
monty16 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 marcus, remember Abraham's mother's milk cow and the total lack of humanitarian concern for Abraham's baby when the milk cow dried up becaue of the rocket made out of a stovepipe. Oy vey, the humanity. Ahhhhhhhhhhh! LOL Quote
dre Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 You are tacitly supporting violence against civilians here, do you realize that ? I dont think you can really categorize settlers moved into an occupied territory as civilians. And lets be honest here... if a foreign country use force to estalish settlements on Israeli proper (or any other country for that matter) those settlers would be no safer than jewish settlers in the west bank. That doesnt excuse anything... You have to be a sick sick f&*ker to murder a bunch of teenagers no matter what the circumstances but its a real stretch to call any Israelis living in the occupied territories civilians. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) .....And really, why would Canada want to interfere in the ME anyway? The CPC only support the US because of economic blackmail if we don't. Same reason why the coalition of the Pacific atolls and tiny European monarchies didn't resist the blackmailing for the latest Iraq war! But it's not just the CPC....it is Canadian policy. Economic blackmail ? Just show those "bastard" Americans who's boss by closing the border, stopping oil exports, and refusing American capital for all investment. That will really help the Palestinians for sure....brothers in suffering. Edited July 4, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
monty16 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 dre, I think we always have to be careful of not referring to the Israelis or the Jewish people as the problem. They're not and they are both very distinct from the real problem of Zionism, or, the Zionists. Jewish people and Israelis can be good and decent people and it's evident when they speak up and condemn the Zionists. Quote
Argus Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 marcus, remember Abraham's mother's milk cow and the total lack of humanitarian concern for Abraham's baby when the milk cow dried up becaue of the rocket made out of a stovepipe. Oy vey, the humanity. Ahhhhhhhhhhh! LOL What is this called? Jew baiting? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
monty16 Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 b_c, you are right, it's not just the CPC it's Canadian policy. But you have to understand that the CPC is pulling the strings because they have a majority in parliament. It's somewhat different than in your country where Obama can't totally pull the strings. There is little doubt that Canada stands responsible for the evil being perped by the CPC. We have to get rid of Harper and replace him with a PM and party that is opposed to wars. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 4, 2014 Report Posted July 4, 2014 ..... but its a real stretch to call any Israelis living in the occupied territories civilians. This is a good point. Part of the media rhetoric. Settlements are referred to as 'Quite Jewish neighborhoods'. Quote
jbg Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 Israel is a racist state that has been terrorizing Palestinians for decades with the support of USA and the UK. The world is learning day by day, despite the distortions from the propaganda machine that depicts the victim as the aggressor and vise versa. Today's Zionists share the same fascist mentality of Germans who killed many Jews in the past. Now, thanks to videos and ease of communication, there is a backlash against the Zionist propaganda. Many progressive Jews too are denouncing the apartheid regime in Israel. History will treat Zionism in the same category with Fascism. Is this another iteration of dub, bud and naomiglover? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
marcus Posted July 5, 2014 Report Posted July 5, 2014 I will always prefer "Zionism" over "Terrorism". The Zionist policy against the Palestinians is terrorism. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
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