Canada_First Posted September 16, 2015 Report Posted September 16, 2015 Why are you always trying to get people to meet you in person? Cause I want to put a face to the name. So we both know who we re talking to.
drummindiver Posted September 16, 2015 Report Posted September 16, 2015 People use adjectives fast and furious here. Don't agree with someone..troll Reallly don't agree with someone..racist or bigot or worse.
Michael Hardner Posted September 16, 2015 Report Posted September 16, 2015 Reallly don't agree with someone..racist or bigot or worse. I would agree with that, except that the racists who are by definition racist complain very loudly when they are called racist. I don't understand why for the life of me. Then then come on and claim that liberals are stifling their free expression, when all the liberals have done is label them as they see they are, and as they are by definition. The liberals aren't the ones who complain to the moderators that they were called racist, demanding that the poster be banned etc. This post is about no one in particular, by the way. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
drummindiver Posted September 16, 2015 Report Posted September 16, 2015 Hey Michael, go ahead, I give you permission to post anything i have ever written along those lines. Oh, you don't have any?Yeah, I wrote CA and bitched about the fact the two of you allow certain cc type ppl free reign, as you are in lock step with him ideologically. Don't be so passive aggressive, clearly you are talking about certain ppl, as you clearly referred to ideologies.Don't be a coward man...speak up. Who you talkiin bout?
Canada_First Posted September 16, 2015 Report Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) I would agree with that, except that the racists who are by definition racist complain very loudly when they are called racist. I don't understand why for the life of me. Then then come on and claim that liberals are stifling their free expression, when all the liberals have done is label them as they see they are, and as they are by definition. The liberals aren't the ones who complain to the moderators that they were called racist, demanding that the poster be banned etc. This post is about no one in particular, by the way. If they're free to label us racist then we must be free to label them as communists and/or terrorist sympathizers. Right?If they can label based on thier own perceptions then the reverse must also be true. Edited September 16, 2015 by Canada_First
drummindiver Posted September 16, 2015 Report Posted September 16, 2015 lol this is a lefty circle jerk, and i can only use my right hand
Black Dog Posted September 16, 2015 Report Posted September 16, 2015 If they're free to label us racist then we must be free to label them as communists and/or terrorist sympathizers. Right? If they can label based on thier own perceptions then the reverse must also be true. It's not based on perceptions, it's based on the stuff you say here.
BubberMiley Posted September 16, 2015 Report Posted September 16, 2015 If they're free to label us racist then we must be free to label them as communists and/or terrorist sympathizers. Right? I thought you labelled yourself a racist. "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Canada_First Posted September 16, 2015 Report Posted September 16, 2015 It's not based on perceptions, it's based on the stuff you say here.I'm free to do likewise.
Canada_First Posted September 16, 2015 Report Posted September 16, 2015 I thought you labelled yourself a racist.Nope that's the job of the left. Scream racist and report...
BubberMiley Posted September 16, 2015 Report Posted September 16, 2015 Nope that's the job of the left. Scream racist and report... The job of the right is to call all muslims terrorists? "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Argus Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Posted September 17, 2015 Canada has to have some influence in the Middle East. Why? I believe that Canada would be far better off being associated with Iran than with Israel Iran is despised by most of the middle east, and most of the world. For good reason. You have also stated that ISIS are not bad people, that those they rule under are happy with them, and that we should leave them alone. You get these ideas because you read web sites like RT and Al Jazeera and believe them, because you are incredibly gullible. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) I would agree with that, except that the racists who are by definition racist complain very loudly when they are called racist. I don't understand why for the life of me. So let's say that, to some here, someone else, in their opinion, is clearly a racist. Okay. Suppose to me, someone is clearly a total moronic idiot. Which, by the way, a lot of the people here are, including most of those who like to throw around terms like 'racist' and 'bigot'. I'm okay with them giving their unflattering opinions about me, as long as I can also reply with my unvarnished opinion as to what kind of defective mental midget they are. Is that okay with you? If not, if I'll be suspended for calling them brainless A-holes, then I expect them to be suspended for calling me whatever. Edited September 17, 2015 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Michael Hardner Posted September 17, 2015 Report Posted September 17, 2015 one is subjective Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Charles Anthony Posted September 17, 2015 Report Posted September 17, 2015 Is that okay with you? If not, if I'll be suspended for calling them brainless A-holes, then I expect them to be suspended for calling me whatever.I have a better idea: stop calling eachother anything! Seriously. What difference, at this point, does it make whether I call you "Argus" as opposed to quoting your post without any attribution other than the backlink to your post? We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
TimG Posted September 17, 2015 Report Posted September 17, 2015 one is subjectiveThe label "racist" is purely subjective so it is not clear what you are talking about. I think Argus has a point. The word racist is used only on this forum as insult in the same way calling someone stupid or and a**hole is. If someone wants to discuss racism then it is possible to do without calling another poster a racist.
Michael Hardner Posted September 17, 2015 Report Posted September 17, 2015 Purely subjective... No. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
TimG Posted September 17, 2015 Report Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Purely subjective... No.So are native rights "racist" or not? Is it it fair to call people racist who advocate for special treatment of natives based on the logic that their DNA entitles them to special treatment? Or are you still going to argue that the term "racist" is not a purely subjective term that depends on the world view of the speaker? Edited September 17, 2015 by TimG
Argus Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Posted September 17, 2015 one is subjective Siince none of us have met each other, nor do we know each others' mind or heart, it's all subjective. I can believe, based on what I read of what you write, that you're a racist. I can also believe, based on what I read of what you write, that you're a moron. Do you honestly want to tell me you don't read some of these posts and think what a moron the writer is? But we're not allowed to say that, now are we? "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Posted September 17, 2015 Purely subjective... No. Well if you want to take it that way. Some people are idiots. That's not subjective either. It's absolute fact. Certainly some of the people posting on this web site are also conspiracy freaks and screwballs who need their meds adjusted. That also is not debatable. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Michael Hardner Posted September 17, 2015 Report Posted September 17, 2015 Those are subjective assessments but if somebody posted that they believed a certain race was inferior well... Not much room for subjectivity Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Posted September 17, 2015 I have a better idea: stop calling eachother anything! That is very much my preference. I happen to agree with you that as soon as a discussion moves from the subject matter under discussion to the morality, motivation or moronic nature of the proponants of one or the other side it degenerates into pointless insults. However, it's also my position that if someone is allowed to call me names, usually because they're too stupid or intellectually lazy to argue the subject matter, I should be allowed to call them names back. Seriously. What difference, at this point, does it make whether I call you "Argus" as opposed to quoting your post without any attribution other than the backlink to your post? I don't think it would change the name calling, for one, and it would force me to read stuff by people I think are complete idiots who usually have nothing of value to say instead of skimming over them as I mostly do now. There are also a few posters who I actually always read when I notice they've posted something, because they're a cut above the rest in terms of the interest value and intelligence of their posts. I would no longer be able to do that. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Those are subjective assessments Really? There are no idiots? There are no morons? There are no wack jobs who need their meds adjusted? You know there damn well are. Maybe our assessment via the internet is subjective' but so is someone else's assessment through the internet that someone is a racist. but if somebody posted that they believed a certain race was inferior well... Not much room for subjectivity And who has done that? Honestly, we've had no more than two or three such people that I recall during the last ten years. I can tell you, from my experience, the way accusations usually happens. ME: There is no coherent policy goal for immigration. THEM: Immigration is because we're growing old. ME: Look at these cites which say immigration won't help that. THEM: Immigration is because we're going to be short of workers. ME: Look at these cites from studies which say we won't. THEM: Immigration is needed to help our economy. ME: Look at these cites and evidence showing it doesn't. THEM: You're a racist! You're a bigot! You don't like brown people! Edited September 17, 2015 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
TimG Posted September 17, 2015 Report Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Those are subjective assessments but if somebody posted that they believed a certain race was inferior well... Not much room for subjectivityBut who says that? The comments I have seen merely argue that some cultures are superior and that people of any race can choose to join the superior culture which makes the comments 'culturalist' rather than 'racist'. Applying the 'racist' label in such cases is technically wrong which makes the use of the word a subjective exercise. Edited September 17, 2015 by TimG
Argus Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Posted September 17, 2015 Purely subjective... No. The term 'racist' as thrown around, particularly on the internet, is also almost always purely subjective, and based on just how exquisitely, delicately sensitive ones political correcntess is, rather than the statement or statements being made. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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