Ontario Liberals, PCs and Contractor Ellis Don - working together ?

[Michael Hardner]

http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2013/09/30/liberals_tories_still_pushing_ellisdon_legislation.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

The minority Liberal government and opposition Tories are plowing ahead with legislation to aid construction firm EllisDon even though the courts have rendered it redundant.

London, Ont.-based EllisDon, a generous donor to both political parties, is looking for a law giving it relief from a resurrected 1958 union agreement — upheld by a 2012 Ontario Labour Relations Board decision — committing it to hiring only unionized workers.

On Friday, an Ontario Divisional Court ruling overturned the OLRB decision and rejected the so-called Sarnia working agreement. The OLRB’s decision included giving the company a two-year reprieve in order to lobby the legislature into passing legislation releasing it from the 55-year-old deal.

When forces this powerful are working together, it must be for the common good, right ?

[Boges]

Labour is quickly moving away from Unionization. How can you make a 50 plus year contract like that ignoring the changing market conditions?

[eyeball]

a generous donor to both political parties...

Would it be fair to say that's like paying dues?

[jacee]

Labour is quickly moving away from Unionization. How can you make a 50 plus year contract like that ignoring the changing market conditions?

Well Ellis-Don did.

[Michael Hardner]

Does anybody ever complain, or even look at, the size of contracts that go to these types of vendors ?

There's a kids park that they rebuilt in my neighbourhood for some reason. it took weeks with a full crew, even though the playground equipment was pre-assembled. And now that it's done, the neighbourhood kids just have to look at the shiny new playground through a chain link fence and weep because it's not signed off yet.

How much did this cost, and who was it supposed to serve ?

[Jimmy Wilson]

The Conservatives and the Liberals in corporatist cahoots?

Kathleen Wynne assisting Tim Hudak in his Right To Work poverty inducing goal?

Never...lol

[Topaz]

If companies treated their employees better and fairly, there wouldn't be a needs for unions. I'll also say there are good unions and bad unions just like companies. A couple days ago, my neighbour told how how a company was (to put in plan english) screwing their son. He belongs to a union and seniority to suppose count when handing out jobs to the workers. Their son found out that one worker below him, has been working over 50 hours a week, while the company has been givng their son only 20-26 hours per work and the fact that he's been asking for more work. Well, the son found out about it and he's very angry because by the time he gets done putting gas in the car, he's lucky to have $100, cause the other $100. goes in gas!! Of course, management tried to talk him into a deal because its going to cost. Apparently, under this union, if a worker finds out that someone lower than you has a better job, and you were told about it, the company has to pay the difference in pay for the time the worker was on that job and in this case it was 3 months. So in this case , without a union this guy, wouldn't have any way of making it right and fair.

[Jimmy Wilson]

If companies treated their employees better and fairly, there wouldn't be a needs for unions. I'll also say there are good unions and bad unions just like companies. A couple days ago, my neighbour told how how a company was (to put in plan english) screwing their son. He belongs to a union and seniority to suppose count when handing out jobs to the workers. Their son found out that one worker below him, has been working over 50 hours a week, while the company has been givng their son only 20-26 hours per work and the fact that he's been asking for more work. Well, the son found out about it and he's very angry because by the time he gets done putting gas in the car, he's lucky to have $100, cause the other $100. goes in gas!! Of course, management tried to talk him into a deal because its going to cost. Apparently, under this union, if a worker finds out that someone lower than you has a better job, and you were told about it, the company has to pay the difference in pay for the time the worker was on that job and in this case it was 3 months. So in this case , without a union this guy, wouldn't have any way of making it right and fair.

Simply put...A contract is a contract is a contract...

[Boges]

Liberals flipped on this. The Bill got defeated.

Premier Kathleen Wynne, who flip-flopped on her support for the private member’s bill pushed by Conservative MPP Monte McNaughton, said Tuesday the change that bill sought was “unnecessary.”

When McNaughton (Lambton-Kent-Middlesex) proposed it, Wynne said the legislation corrected a historical anomaly binding EllisDon to a 1958 agreement requiring it to use unionized workers only, which left the firm at a competitive disadvantage.

But under pressure from union leaders, New Democrats, and some Liberals, the premier changed her tune, citing a recent Ontario Divisional Court ruling that quashed the decision by the Ontario Labour Relations Board tying EllisDon to the 55-year-old arrangement.

http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2013/10/29/liberals_and_ndp_crush_controversial_bill_74_by_tories_to_help_ellisdon.html

[Jimmy Wilson]

Good...

I suppose this will give Hudak more ammunition to demand RTW legislation in Ontario to "stand up for the sanctity of the individual worker" now?

[PIK]

I knew a guy call don ellis.