GostHacked Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 The U.S. already has many political parties.....more than in Canada. And so marginal as to be ineffective. So, two parties. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 And so marginal as to be ineffective. So, two parties. They are hardly ineffective when they affect election results. Quote
GostHacked Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 They are hardly ineffective when they affect election results. They may affect elections, but it only seems to take votes away from let's say Dems to give the Reps a leg up. Throw away votes. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) They are hardly ineffective when they affect election results. Agreed...just ask Al Gore or Jesse Ventura. The U.S. has many political parties, and always has throughout its history. Edited October 15, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted October 15, 2013 Report Posted October 15, 2013 Please list the names of independent Presidents? That is telling enough. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted October 25, 2013 Report Posted October 25, 2013 Please list the names of independent Presidents? That is telling enough. Exactly! Can you imagine if they elected a Tea Party president? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 25, 2013 Report Posted October 25, 2013 Please list the names of independent Presidents? That is telling enough. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_political_affiliation Two: Washington and Tyler. Interesting link btw. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted October 25, 2013 Report Posted October 25, 2013 Exactly! Can you imagine if they elected a Tea Party president? You can get a hint of it by looking at the Reform Party victory of Jesse Ventura in Minnesota. There wasn't much done during his term. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Posted October 25, 2013 You can get a hint of it by looking at the Reform Party victory of Jesse Ventura in Minnesota. There wasn't much done during his term. I disagree, being a resident and voter in Minnesota. Gov. Ventura's first accomplishment was simply getting elected as a Reform Party candidate in a 'blue state', but he did accomplish several things while governor: 1) Overhauled the state's property tax system 2) Rebated early tax surpluses 3) Lowered the onerous license tab fees on older vehicles (the reason he ran for office....$900 license fees on his 1978 Porsche 911SC) 4) Sponsored light rail construction (since expanded to other lines) 5) Endowments for "Big Tobacco" settlement money Ventura also presided over the budget surplus to deficits slide with the economic downturn at the time. Ultimately he self destructed with politicos and reporters, with dreams of running for president. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 Right on. Get Jessie in there as Pres. and put Arnie with his as Vice. America could then be even more redneck, and more bankrupt. Quite a legacy! Quote
Argus Posted October 26, 2013 Author Report Posted October 26, 2013 Ventura also presided over the budget surplus to deficits slide with the economic downturn at the time. Ultimately he self destructed with politicos and reporters, with dreams of running for president. Is that another way of saying that, like Bush, he just kept cutting taxes so that the state had to borrow ever greater amounts of money? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 Is that another way of saying that, like Bush, he just kept cutting taxes so that the state had to borrow ever greater amounts of money? No...the .com bust and recession of 2001 is well documented and needs no further explanation. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted November 6, 2013 Report Posted November 6, 2013 No...the .com bust and recession of 2001 is well documented and needs no further explanation. Come'on BC, it's well documented that Bush passed his tax cuts, and then went into a time machine, and caused a recession before he was elected president, and passed said tax cuts. Everybody knows that! And apparently deficts a third of the size of Obama's deficits can cause a recession. Sometimes you just gotta facepalm. Anyways, the next president of the United States, Mr. Chris Christie won a historic re-election tonight! Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 10, 2013 Report Posted November 10, 2013 Come'on BC, it's well documented that Bush passed his tax cuts, and then went into a time machine, and caused a recession before he was elected president, and passed said tax cuts. Everybody knows that! And apparently deficts a third of the size of Obama's deficits can cause a recession. Sometimes you just gotta facepalm. Anyways, the next president of the United States, Mr. Chris Christie won a historic re-election tonight! Come on Shady, we all know Bush gave the banks carte blanche in exchange for their support/ votes and of course the house of cards that was the housing bubble finally burst and the Clinton surplus became the "black hole" that Obama inherited along with the "agenda from hell". One good thing about the next president is that she already knows her way around the white house. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Posted November 10, 2013 Come on Shady, we all know Bush gave the banks carte blanche Actually, it was President Clinton who signed the law that repealed the Glass Steagall Act. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 10, 2013 Report Posted November 10, 2013 On second thought, maybe we should have Ted Cruz in their and he can read us Dr. Seuss stories each evening. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted November 10, 2013 Report Posted November 10, 2013 Agreed...just ask Al Gore or Jesse Ventura. The U.S. has many political parties, and always has throughout its history. so jog my memory, when has it been that other than a Dem or a GOP has occupied the WH? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) so jog my memory, when has it been that other than a Dem or a GOP has occupied the WH? Use the tools that the U.S. has given you to find out (TCP/IP & Google)/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States Edited November 10, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 10, 2013 Report Posted November 10, 2013 Use the tools that the U.S. has given you to find out (TCP/IP & Google)/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States Of course there is a Whig (democrat) and a Federalst (sort of republican) many many moons have passed and everybody else has been, surprise surprise, Democrat or Republican. I rest my case. Same in Canada in some ways, we have either had the Liberals (democrats) or the Conservatives (Republicans) forever. But we do have 3 other parties and one of them is tht is neither Liberal or Conservative is the official opposition. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) Of course there is a Whig (democrat) and a Federalst (sort of republican) many many moons have passed and everybody else has been, surprise surprise, Democrat or Republican. I rest my case. What was your case ? There have been many political parties in the U.S. and there still are, with many candidates on voting ballots besides Democrats or Republicans. Americans actually have more choices than Canadians. Edited November 10, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted November 10, 2013 Report Posted November 10, 2013 What was your case ? There have been many political parties in the U.S. and there still are, with many candidates on voting ballots besides Democrats or Republicans. Americans actually have more choices than Canadians. In Canada there are 5, Liberal, Conservative, New Democratic, Partie Quebecois, and Green. Can you name more than two in the US? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Posted November 10, 2013 In Canada there are 5, Liberal, Conservative, New Democratic, Partie Quebecois, and Green. Can you name more than two in the US? Again, I would refer you to the tools that America has already provided to you for free. Search for "political parties" & "United States". Here is an example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted November 10, 2013 Author Report Posted November 10, 2013 What was your case ? There have been many political parties in the U.S. and there still are, with many candidates on voting ballots besides Democrats or Republicans. Americans actually have more choices than Canadians. That, of course, is nonsense. In a Corporatist state like the US you can't run for office without massive amounts of money. I'm sure there are other 'parties' but none have any real chance of being elected. The Republicans spent around $2 billion last election, for example. So a new party which wanted to actually run for office would need at least that much to compete. Due to the limits on spending and donations in Canada the monetary requirements are vastly lower, which is why even parties like the greens can field candidates in almost every riding. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
The_Squid Posted November 12, 2013 Report Posted November 12, 2013 Elizabeth Warren is going to make a good president. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 12, 2013 Report Posted November 12, 2013 That, of course, is nonsense. In a Corporatist state like the US you can't run for office without massive amounts of money. I'm sure there are other 'parties' but none have any real chance of being elected. Patently false, of course. Jesse Ventura proved that. There are more political parties on my U.S. federal ballot than in Canada. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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