why is the u.s. suddenly crying about the use of chemical weapons?

[DogOnPorch]

So who has Syria invaded as of late?

Lebanon.

[GostHacked]

Lebanon.

And what was done about it?

[Topaz]

There isn't any proof who did the gassing and countries are being very careful because of the Bush invasion and the reasons behind it. Since Russia and China are not with NATO on this one, IF they did go in, they may have to deal with Russia and China too. The only thing that this talk is doing is pushing up the price of gasoline!!

[Argus]

you got my answer.

Your answer is you don't care about anything except hating Jews and hating everyone who stands with or behind them.

[Argus]

There isn't any proof who did the gassing and countries are being very careful

Bullshit. If this gasing was in a Palestinian refugee camp you wouldn't be asking for CSI Miami to go in and provide you with proof. You'd simply assume it was the Jews and demand they be punished.

I think all this thread shows is all those people who are so indignant and outraged on behalf of the 'poor palestinians' don't really care about what happens to Arabs over there at all. They're fixated on hating Israel, and that's all that matters to them.

[GostHacked]

Bullshit. If this gasing was in a Palestinian refugee camp you wouldn't be asking for CSI Miami to go in and provide you with proof. You'd simply assume it was the Jews and demand they be punished.

I think all this thread shows is all those people who are so indignant and outraged on behalf of the 'poor palestinians' don't really care about what happens to Arabs over there at all. They're fixated on hating Israel, and that's all that matters to them.

Then you may want to visit the several other threads on Syria. Very low on things Israel/Palestine.

[bud]

moving past u.s.' hypocritical and empty cries for justice, ethics and morality, i wonder how will the u.s. involvement make things better in syria.

i long for an example of u.s. intervention where they have succeeded in removing a monster and creating something better.

iraq? no.

afghanistan? no.

the only thing a u.s. intervention will do is to empower the extremist islamists on the other side, the salafists who are funded by saudi arabia, and we've seen what they've done.

on the other hand, we have over 100,000 people dead and the carnage will continue with the (foreign) opposition continuing to feed the fire and assad showing that he has no moral compass.

i hope the syrians succeed in getting rid of both assad and the salafists. but i'm not sure how u.s. involvement will help and wont turn it into a completely different struggle.

i found this interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrEPadG0pQk

[DogOnPorch]

Sounds like it's unlikely to have any boots on the ground other than perhaps American*...and Obama would be going against the people at that point. I expect a ceremonial strike or three on Assad's airfields.

*both the UK and Canada voted "no", for example.

[DogOnPorch]

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Edited August 30, 2013 by DogOnPorch

[Guest American Woman]

i support saving the raped victims and bringing those who have committed crimes to justice.

i just don't believe karla homolka's cries for justice and i don't believe she has any conscience or should be given any credibility when she says the right thing should be done. she probably just wants to take over the rapists apartment when he's taken away.

if karla really had a conscience and cared about doing the ethical thing, she would have done something when israel paul bernardo, the psychopath was doing what he was doing.

When you can get past talking about Karla and talk about Obama and Syria and the Syrian victims, get back to me, ok? In the meantime, I'll question whether your refusal to answer my questions is due to your pleading The Fifth....

[bud]

it's not my responsibility that you're unable to understand the clear analogy. once you're able to get it, then get back to me. in the meantime, go find the spine to answer the many questions you have avoided responding to in several threads.

Edited August 30, 2013 by bud

[Rue]

i-i long for an example of u.s. intervention where they have succeeded in removing a monster and creating something better.

ii-the only thing a u.s. intervention will do is to empower the extremist islamists on the other side, the salafists who are funded by saudi arabia, and we've seen what they've done.

iii-i hope the syrians succeed in getting rid of both assad and the salafists. but i'm not sure how u.s. involvement will help and wont turn it into a completely different struggle.

i-Japan, Germany, Europe with the Monroe doctrine, South Korea unless you are suggesting North Korea is utopia;

ii-maybe-you could very well be right;

iii-agreed-both sides are equally as problematic for the exact same reasons.

[Rue]

... i wonder how will the u.s. involvement make things better in syria.

Here's a hint. People will be able to breath the air.

Geez Bud.

[Rue]

Sounds like it's unlikely to have any boots on the ground other than perhaps American*...and Obama would be going against the people at that point. I expect a ceremonial strike or three on Assad's airfields.

*both the UK and Canada voted "no", for example.

Agreed. Most likely Tomahawk missiles.

[bud]

Here's a hint. People will be able to breath the air.

Geez Bud.

you might think that, but many other don't. including:

U.S. military officers have deep doubts about impact, wisdom of a U.S. strike on Syria

Former and current officers, many with the painful lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan on their minds, said the main reservations concern the potential unintended consequences of launching cruise missiles against Syria.

Some questioned the use of military force as a punitive measure and suggested that the White House lacks a coherent strategy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-military-officers-have-deep-doubts-about-impact-wisdom-of-a-us-strike-on-syria/2013/08/29/825dd5d4-10ee-11e3-b4cb-fd7ce041d814_story.html

[Guest American Woman]

it's not my responsibility that you're unable to understand the clear analogy. once you're able to get it, then get back to me. in the meantime, go find the spine to answer the many questions you have avoided responding to in several threads.

Your analogy is totally off the wall. Totally irrelevant.

Why aren't you answering the question directly? No analogy is needed. Is it too difficult to just give a straight answer?

[bud]

Your analogy is totally off the wall. Totally irrelevant.

Why aren't you answering the question directly? No analogy is needed. Is it too difficult to just give a straight answer?

you have an opinion about my analogy and i disagree with it. i think it fits perfectly in regards to what this thread is about.

i answered the question with an analogy. this is a lot more than you have done in several other threads where you've failed to answer questions.

[Guest American Woman]

you have an opinion about my analogy and i disagree with it. i think it fits perfectly in regards to what this thread is about.

i answered the question with an analogy. this is a lot more than you have done in several other threads where you've failed to answer questions.

You failed to answer the question.

[bud]

i answered the question just fine. you failed to get the answer you were looking for.

[Guest American Woman]

i answered the question just fine. you failed to get the answer you were looking for.

I was looking for an answer to the question, so yes, I failed to get that.

[bud]

I was looking for an answer to the question, so yes, I failed to get that.

you failed to "get it", i know.

Edited August 31, 2013 by bud

[-TSS-]

Nobody cares about the people of Syria. Obama and Cameron can say whatever they like, they are lying. No military action has ever been started out of philanthropic reasons, never.

[Guest American Woman]

Nobody cares about the people of Syria. Obama and Cameron can say whatever they like, they are lying.

Nobody? And you know this - how? You don't know what other people feel unless they've said how they feel. You can no more speak for Obama and Cameron than I can speak for what you do or don't care about.

[dre]

I think Obama talked himself into a corner here with all his moronic bluster about chemical weapons being a "red line". I dont think anyone believes that a few cruise missles is going to make the situation over there better for anyone, and it might make things a lot worse.

[sharkman]

Like I said elsewhere, Obama screwed up on that one. He should have done what Bush Sr(yes, the old guy!) did on the eve of attacking Iraq back in the day. He threatened Saddam through back channels that if he used any chemical weapons, Bush would respond with WMD's of his own. He didn't publicly make a big deal about it like Obama did, but Saddam got the message and took his beating.

Obama could learn a thing or two from the old guy.