Black Dog Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Fox's bias is institutional, same as a government propaganda organ. It is not in any way comparable to the liberal bias on other networks. They're virtually all that way. Quote
Argus Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 They're virtually all that way. No they're not. There are individual biases in other news organizations, but it's not like they have editorial meetings where they decide how to spin each story to make one side look good, or what stories they can run which will make the government look bad. Scanning through the news stations the closest I can find which resembles FOX is RT. They both have these fresh, shiny faced newsreaders telling us a lot of bullshit designed to sway our opinion rather than inform us. FOX is no more an news organization than RT. It is a propaganda station. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Black Dog Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) No they're not. There are individual biases in other news organizations, but it's not like they have editorial meetings where they decide how to spin each story to make one side look good, or what stories they can run which will make the government look bad. Scanning through the news stations the closest I can find which resembles FOX is RT. They both have these fresh, shiny faced newsreaders telling us a lot of bullshit designed to sway our opinion rather than inform us. Ah, I see what you mean. I agree, but with that said, I think in most organization's editorial content is based on establishment interests over ideological differences. I'm not expressing that well, but I hope you get my drift. Edited August 30, 2013 by Black Dog Quote
sharkman Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 No they're not. There are individual biases in other news organizations, but it's not like they have editorial meetings where they decide how to spin each story to make one side look good, or what stories they can run which will make the government look bad. Scanning through the news stations the closest I can find which resembles FOX is RT. They both have these fresh, shiny faced newsreaders telling us a lot of bullshit designed to sway our opinion rather than inform us. FOX is no more an news organization than RT. It is a propaganda station. Wow, that's quite a development! i'd like to see the video of these meetings you found out about. You've got the proof, right? Or are you just really really sure that it must be going on with Fox. Quote
Argus Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Wow, that's quite a development! i'd like to see the video of these meetings you found out about. You've got the proof, right? Or are you just really really sure that it must be going on with Fox. Are you under the belief that a complete consistency of beliefs on the part of every newsreader and commentator over a period of years is mere coincidence? Do you really think every single thing Obama, the federal government, and the Democrats has done has been bad? That every single position held by the Republicans is good? If Obama managed to cure all diseases overnight FOX would be focussing on the loss of jobs to the pharmaceutical industry and showing the sad faces of little children as their daddy comes home from his last day at work. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
sharkman Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Oh, okay. Let me know when you get that proof. Quote
guyser Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Oh, okay. Let me know when you get that proof. Would daily memo's from the Vice President of Fox News ,John Moody, outlining the approach on stories be enough? Or this? Former Fox News producer Charlie Reina explained, "The roots of Fox News Channel's day-to-day on-air bias are actual and direct. They come in the form of an executive memo distributed electronically each morning, addressing what stories will be covered and, often, suggesting how they should be covered. To the newsroom personnel responsible for the channel's daytime programming, The Memo is the Bible. If, on any given day, you notice that the Fox anchors seem to be trying to drive a particular point home, you can bet The Memo is behind it."[67][68] Quote
bud Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Leaked Fox News Memo Reveals News Division Told To Echo GOP Talking PointRead more: http://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-fox-news-memo-reveals-news-division-told-to-echo-gop-talking-point-2010-12#ixzz2dTOTomFv Let me know when you admit the obvious. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
sharkman Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Folks, it's a simple request. Proof of what I called Argus on. Memos are not what Argus claimed was going on. Quote
guyser Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Folks, it's a simple request. Proof of what I called Argus on. Memos are not what Argus claimed was going on. Yes, fair enough, but then again , those daily briefings would come via meetings dont you think? Quote
Black Dog Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Folks, it's a simple request. Proof of what I called Argus on. Memos are not what Argus claimed was going on. The reality is actually worse than what Argus said. Quote
Shady Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Fox's bias is institutional, same as a government propaganda organ. It is not in any way comparable to the liberal bias on other networks. Complete nonsense. Again, you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to American politics. The executive editor admitted that The New York Times had a liberal bias. And MSNBC is a political arm of the Obama administration. Even non-partisan observers agree. As usual, you're wrong again. Quote
Shady Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Are you under the belief that a complete consistency of beliefs on the part of every newsreader and commentator over a period of years is mere coincidence? Do you really think every single thing Obama, the federal government, and the Democrats has done has been bad? That every single position held by the Republicans is good?If Obama managed to cure all diseases overnight FOX would be focussing on the loss of jobs to the pharmaceutical industry and showing the sad faces of little children as their daddy comes home from his last day at work. You obviously don't watch Fox, because not every single thing the president does is reported as bad, and Republicans as good. You're operating off of a stereotype other people of your ilk tell you, and you believe it because it reinforces your prejudices. The afternoons until 7 is hard news. After that it is opinion, just like CNN and MSNBC. Quote
bleeding heart Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 And MSNBC is a political arm of the Obama administration. Even non-partisan observers agree. Like who? Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
sharkman Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 The reality is actually worse than what Argus said. Well whatever it is, to think that every media outlet is squeaky clean except Fox is self evidently wrong. Quote
Black Dog Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Well whatever it is, to think that every media outlet is squeaky clean except Fox is self evidently wrong. Who said that? I sure didn't. Indeed, I said the exact opposite. They all are biased, but not in the way you think. Quote
sharkman Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 No it wasn't you, it's the Fox haters in general who I was thinking of. I only quoted you because I agree that the reality is indeed worse. Quote
Black Dog Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 No it wasn't you, it's the Fox haters in general who I was thinking of. I only quoted you because I agree that the reality is indeed worse. Most media organizations are biased towards money, power and access. There might be individuals who's personal political biases bleed through, but the bulk of what we see, read and hear is dictated indirectly by the advertisers and special interests that pay the bills. Fox is exceptional for taking a strong, across the board partisan stance, but there's no real left wing bias in the media as a whole. Quote
PIK Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 You obviously don't watch Fox, because not every single thing the president does is reported as bad, and Republicans as good. You're operating off of a stereotype other people of your ilk tell you, and you believe it because it reinforces your prejudices. The afternoons until 7 is hard news. After that it is opinion, just like CNN and MSNBC. Same as the sun, they get on the governments back when it is needed. And if you like watching elections across the country , it has the best coverage. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
guyser Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Same as the sun, they get on the governments back when it is needed. And if you like watching elections across the country , it has the best coverage. Who would know? All 87 of their viewers? That said, there is no way in H they have anywhere near the best coverage in the country, considering they are not even across the country. They can neither afford nor get invites accepted to be on their shows with anyhwere near the same capacity as CTV or CBC or Global can get. Quote
WontonTiger Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Who said that? I sure didn't. Indeed, I said the exact opposite. They all are biased, but not in the way you think. I was hoping for more open views like this here. People need to be a bit more critical regarding the things they believe, and the information they are provided. To think that only one or a few stations are biased, is to give in to your confirmation bias. Hopefully more people begin to recognize that money is most often the prime motivator, and that a lot of the little things are designed to keep people arguing, rather than looking at the large problems of the day. It's much easier to acknowledge a sound bite, than it is to actually try to understand an issue. It's much easier to point blame than it is to try and resolve the issue at hand. +1 to your comment though. Quote
PIK Posted September 3, 2013 Report Posted September 3, 2013 Who would know? All 87 of their viewers? That said, there is no way in H they have anywhere near the best coverage in the country, considering they are not even across the country. They can neither afford nor get invites accepted to be on their shows with anyhwere near the same capacity as CTV or CBC or Global can get. Did you watch the BC elections? Sun ran it the whole night, nobody that I seen did at all. Yes it is the best coverage. And why are you and others so afraid of them? Let them on with full coverage and then we will see if people will watch. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted September 3, 2013 Report Posted September 3, 2013 It seems the CBC has been protecting liberal PM's for decades. lol http://www.ottawacitizen.com/entertainment/movie-guide/Pearson+peep+show/8854170/story.html Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
On Guard for Thee Posted September 5, 2013 Report Posted September 5, 2013 Let's face it, if Harper had his way there would be one news outlet, The Sun. The CBC ask too many difficult questions, like "where did that 3.1 billion dollars go," or "who wrote the check to Duffy". Let;s see now, which colleague of Harpers runs Sun? And Fox is the equivelant of Jerry Springer news as far as I'm concerned. Quote
PIK Posted September 5, 2013 Report Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) Let's face it, if Harper had his way there would be one news outlet, The Sun. The CBC ask too many difficult questions, like "where did that 3.1 billion dollars go," or "who wrote the check to Duffy". Let;s see now, which colleague of Harpers runs Sun? And Fox is the equivelant of Jerry Springer news as far as I'm concerned. Like when the CBC asked trudeau a tough question and he brushed them off by calling them sun news, how embarressed he must have been when the guy said I from the CBC ,but still did not get a answer. And that 3.1 billion, ask chretien where it went , he was on watch when it disappeared. And I doubt if you even have watched it. Edited September 5, 2013 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
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