scribblet Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Meanwhile, there's a not a lot being said about Mulcair lying and covering up an attempted bribe. He only talked to the police in 2011 years after it happened. Imagine if this had been - say Duffy... oh the headlines. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/05/20130516-133047.html MONTREAL — NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair admitted Thursday he was offered cash-stuffed envelope by a scandal-ridden mayor in 1994, despite denying the allegations three tears ago. La Presse newspaper says Mulcair was offered the bribe just after he was first elected to the Quebec legislature for the Liberals in a Laval, Que., riding. Citing an investigator's report, La Presse said Mulcair was presented the envelope by then-Laval mayor Gilles Vaillancourt. Mulcair did not check to see if it contained "money or a letter, but for him it was clear that this was money," said La Presse.Mulcair rejected the cash. In a statement Thursday, Mulcair confirmed the allegations and said he met with police in 2011 to discuss the matter. "I gave to them my account of a meeting I had with Mayor Gilles Vaillancourt dating back to 1994," he said in a statement. "As is indicated, I effectively and immediately ended the meeting with Mr. Vaillancourt." But he told a different story during a November 2010 press conference. Mulcair replied "No" when the reporter asked him: "Have you ever been offered money or an envelope by the mayor of Laval or have you ever seen money or an envelope near the Laval mayor? ". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Date of Article- May 17th...why thats todays date isnt it? Imagine if people had a half day for things to filter through..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 That one was today, I read one yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Imagine if this had been - say Duffy... oh the headlines. You're absolutely right. If it had been Duffy, he would have taken the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 shocking I say, shocking !! Mr. Mulcair kept his firsthand knowledge of corruption from the public for two more years, before choosing to dump it today, when he felt the media would be distracted by other stories. This presents some difficult questions for Mr. Mulcair: 1. Why did he protect Gilles Vaillancourt and cover up this alleged criminal activity for 17 years? 2. Why did it take a public inquiry into the biggest corruption scandal in Canadian history for Thomas Mulcair to finally come clean with Canadians? 3. Why did Thomas Mulcair lie and say he was never offered any money by Gilles Vaillancourt? 4. Will he agree to appear if called to testify under oath before the Charbonneau Commission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 zzzzz yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Mike Duffy stole from taxpayers.... Mulcair refused a bribe and reported it to police.... Wow.... how remarkably similar!!! not.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 He didn't report it to the police until years afterwards and chose this week to dump it when he knew it would be buried. see post #6 Scott me up beamy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 He didn't report it to the police until years afterwards and chose this week to dump it when he knew it would be buried. see post #6Why is it that when Duffy takes cash, it's all a media conspiracy to destroy him, but you don't even mention media bias when there's a story that tries to incriminate Mulcair for not taking cash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Why is it that when Duffy takes cash, it's all a media conspiracy to destroy him, but you don't even mention media bias when there's a story that tries to incriminate Mulcair for not taking cash? http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/story/2013/05/16/mtl-ndp-leader-thomas-mulcair-met-with-gilles-vaillancourt.html Is the CBC biased ? I never said there was a media conspiracy to destroy Duffy, but it's obvious that when it's the opposition, it's not given the same coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) I never said there was a media conspiracy to destroy Duffy... Mike Duffy used to be one of the media, a journalist who did the unforgivable: he went over to the dark conservative side. Worse, he accepted an appointment to the Senate. The pillorying of the Duffster must be viciously satisfying indeed. Bonus for them if they could nail the PM in their gotcha game, a game in which the residency and housing claims of past Liberal senators will not even get so much as a thought. ...but it's obvious that when it's the opposition, it's not given the same coverage.Uh...maybe that's because Duffy stole the money and Mulcair didn't. Edited May 17, 2013 by BubberMiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I never said there was a media conspiracy to destroy Duffy, but it's obvious that when it's the opposition, it's not given the same coverage. oh really! Your reference to the Press Gallery at large and the media "pillorying" Duffy fits a classic definition of conspiracy; i.e., an ill-boding, injurious design intent brought about through the concerted actions of multiple cooperating partners: The so-called scandal is being whipped by the CBC in particular but it has lots of help from the rest of the Press gallery goons. Mike Duffy used to be one of the media, a journalist who did the unforgivable: he went over to the dark conservative side. Worse, he accepted an appointment to the Senate. The pillorying of the Duffster must be viciously satisfying indeed. Bonus for them if they could nail the PM in their gotcha game, a game in which the residency and housing claims of past Liberal senators will not even get so much as a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Mulcair probably does have some questions to answer... and if they want him to testify at the inquiry, then he should do so.... But he never stole money or took bribes... unlike Duffy bilking taxpayers and charging expenses when he clearly had already been paid for them. To top it off he gets told by the PMO not to cooperate with auditors after a $90k payment. That's pretty slimy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Mulcair probably does have some questions to answer... and if they want him to testify at the inquiry, then he should do so.... But he never stole money or took bribes... unlike Duffy bilking taxpayers and charging expenses when he clearly had already been paid for them. To top it off he gets told by the PMO not to cooperate with auditors after a $90k payment. That's pretty slimy. So are you implying that it's ok for a politician to keep his or her mouth shut if they are aware of illegal activities? If you blink,you might miss all the coverage this story is going to get in the mainstream media. And I do think what Duffy has been doing is dead wrong,just like longtime Liberal Mac Harb,who for obvious reasons gets very little coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitops Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Duffy's situation is worse than Mulcair's, and warrants more coverage. He deserves punishment to the full extent of the law. But there is no doubt the media loves to cover conservative problems more than liberal, that's just what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Duffy's situation is worse than Mulcair's, and warrants more coverage. He deserves punishment to the full extent of the law. But there is no doubt the media loves to cover conservative problems more than liberal, that's just what they do. I think Mulcair should have stepped forward and opened his mouth right away.He knew what was going on for all these years and did.........nothing.It doesn't say much for his judgement. As for these lazy ass Senators,I bet we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Mulcair could have used a bit of money. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/27/mulcair-has-remortgaged-his-quebec-home-11-times-since-early-1980s/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/story/2013/05/16/mtl-ndp-leader-thomas-mulcair-met-with-gilles-vaillancourt.html Is the CBC biased ? I never said there was a media conspiracy to destroy Duffy, but it's obvious that when it's the opposition, it's not given the same coverage. Makes sense. The opposition is not in the same position as the government. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Makes sense. The opposition is not in the same position as the government. WWWTT And likely will never be in the same position... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted May 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 How much has this even been mentioned recently. Check out the Toronto Star's search result for any mention of this in the Toronto Star - http://www.thestar.com/search.html?q=mulcair+bribe&contenttype=articles,videos,slideshows you got it - zip - nada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 So far,nothing mentioned about Mulcair in the Ottawa Citizen,no surprise there. Let's be honest here,negative stories about the lefties get little or no coverage at all in this country from most of the mainstream media.And it is because they have their own agenda,namely to promote leftist ideology over all else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 Just had a quick look on cbc.ca,a grand total of one story about Mulcair's keeping his mouth shut.However,type in Mike Duffy,and there are nine pages,and counting.....about Duffy and his problems.No wonder Mac Harb is smiling these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 So far,nothing mentioned about Mulcair in the Ottawa Citizen,no surprise there. Whoops! http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/national/Tories+target+Mulcair+revealing+meeting+with+former+Laval/8396794/story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westguy Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 and also famous Liberal Senator - Andy Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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