Fletch 27 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/02/28/i-will-not-get-down-on-my-knees-ndp-mp-quits-party-to-join-bloc-quebecois/ When Steve Harper notioned that the NDP were seperatists... And Mulcair on the "50+1" referendum bandwaggon... Maybe Steve Harper was exactly right! Seems that the NDP's hidden agenda is becoming over-exposed! 5 NDP'ers have since jumped to the Bloc! My question is, How will Thomas Mulcair react to this exodus? How will he retain or even gain? Will this strengthen the NDP in the face of the Bloc or have the opposite effect i wonder? "My orange crush is flat, may i please have another" Edited February 28, 2013 by Fletch 27 Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 28, 2013 Report Posted February 28, 2013 http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/02/28/i-will-not-get-down-on-my-knees-ndp-mp-quits-party-to-join-bloc-quebecois/ When Steve Harper notioned that the NDP were seperatists... And Mulcair on the "50+1" referendum bandwaggon... Maybe Steve Harper was exactly right! Because they feel more comfortable in a sovereigntist party than a federalist one, you (and Stephen Harper) think that means the federalist party must be sovereigntist? Either both of you have poor logic skills or both of you are opportunists who aren't shy to use national unity as a wedge for political purposes. I'm guessing the latter. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Fletch 27 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Report Posted February 28, 2013 Because they feel more comfortable in a sovereigntist party than a federalist one, you (and Stephen Harper) think that means the federalist party must be sovereigntist? Either both of you have poor logic skills or both of you are opportunists who aren't shy to use national unity as a wedge for political purposes. I'm guessing the latter. When Thommy Mulcair wants to make it easier for QC to seperate? Pretty sure that makes him and his party Sovereignists.. Oh, Unless of coarse hes silencing his back-benchers.. Quote
Peanutbutter Posted February 28, 2013 Report Posted February 28, 2013 I really don't blame the NDP at all for this move. Mr. Mulcair cannot know what each and every MP will do at every given moment. I blame the MP himself. It's really shameful whenever any party member crosses the floor to another party no matter who does it and who benefits from it. Quote Ah la peanut butter sandwiches! - The Amazing Mumferd
Argus Posted February 28, 2013 Report Posted February 28, 2013 The NDP basically accepted anyone in Quebec with a pulse as a candidate last election. Small wonder a lot of them are less than committed to the party. This is the same sort of thing that happened to the PCs when Mulroney unexpectedly won with a huge majority first time. They had a bunch of fourth rate Quebec candidates nobody expected to be sitting in the House. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Sleipnir Posted February 28, 2013 Report Posted February 28, 2013 Hey Fletch, who are the 5 NDP'ers that defected to the Bloc? Or are you making up stuff? Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
shortlived Posted February 28, 2013 Report Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Hey Fletch, who are the 5 NDP'ers that defected to the Bloc? Or are you making up stuff? 1 NDPer went crossed the floor.. there are only 4 other bloc members.. (in the bloc caucus). 2011 75 4 889,788 6.0% 23.4% Edited February 28, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
Topaz Posted February 28, 2013 Report Posted February 28, 2013 When one stops and counts the Tories have still the highest number of people that have left the party since 2006 and I'm not counting anyone that wasn't elected back. Quote
Sleipnir Posted March 1, 2013 Report Posted March 1, 2013 1 NDPer went crossed the floor.. there are only 4 other bloc members.. (in the bloc caucus). Try telling that to Fetch, he's mixing up his ones and fives Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Newfoundlander Posted March 1, 2013 Report Posted March 1, 2013 A separatist in the NDP, who would have thought? Quote
GostHacked Posted March 1, 2013 Report Posted March 1, 2013 When Thommy Mulcair wants to make it easier for QC to seperate? Pretty sure that makes him and his party Sovereignists.. Oh, Unless of coarse hes silencing his back-benchers.. Coarse - means rough. Course is what you wanted. Sorry to pick on the spelling. Carry on. Quote
WWWTT Posted March 1, 2013 Report Posted March 1, 2013 When the Bloq first formed,they consisted entirely of conservatives and liberals! There is now one ex NDP member to defect. Boo hoo hoo. Cry me a river Harper! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
shortlived Posted March 1, 2013 Report Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) A separatist in the NDP, who would have thought? Are you forgetting Lucien Bouchard was a Cabinet Minister in the Mulrooney government and the original bloc circa 1991 was composed of surviving PCs there were more pcs in the bloc than in the pc party. Edited March 1, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
Newfoundlander Posted March 1, 2013 Report Posted March 1, 2013 Are you forgetting Lucien Bouchard was a Cabinet Minister in the Mulrooney government and the original bloc circa 1991 was composed of surviving PCs there were more pcs in the bloc than in the pc party. Not one bit. Quote
Boges Posted March 1, 2013 Report Posted March 1, 2013 Are you forgetting Lucien Bouchard was a Cabinet Minister in the Mulrooney government and the original bloc circa 1991 was composed of surviving PCs there were more pcs in the bloc than in the pc party. And where is the Federal PC party today? In the end only some guy named David Orchard wanted to save it. Placating Nationalists is a dangerous bidness. Quote
Fletch 27 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Posted March 1, 2013 Mulcair brought this upon himslef by opening up the Clarrity act... and now this.. AND, there are alot of opinions and hints that he will drop the efforts on ROC and foucs on retaining the bread-and-butter (QC)... putting out these new fires... I think this will enforce a stronger drive AWAY from the Federal NDP and into the Tories?!?! Thoughts? WHats should Mulcair be doing? Or NOT doing? Quote
shortlived Posted March 1, 2013 Report Posted March 1, 2013 And where is the Federal PC party today? In the end only some guy named David Orchard wanted to save it. Placating Nationalists is a dangerous bidness. I dunno where do you think it is? LOL do you really believe that? Some letters are switched around and a new C added and suddently it is a new party? You are just being humourous right? Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
Boges Posted March 1, 2013 Report Posted March 1, 2013 I dunno where do you think it is? LOL do you really believe that? Some letters are switched around and a new C added and suddently it is a new party? You are just being humourous right? So the PCs of the early 90s and the current CPC are the same? Perhaps, but they clearly lost there way which led to a split of the party and the creation of the Bloc and the Reform Party. Quote
shortlived Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) So the PCs of the early 90s and the current CPC are the same? Perhaps, but they clearly lost there way which led to a split of the party and the creation of the Bloc and the Reform Party. The bloc went leftish. What is so great about the CPC not representing the view of about 50% of Quebec. Better to have people who represent the people there wouldn't you say? Edited March 2, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
cybercoma Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 I would rather have separatists in the Bloc than in the NDP. Quote
Argus Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 Are you forgetting Lucien Bouchard was a Cabinet Minister in the Mulrooney government and the original bloc circa 1991 was composed of surviving PCs there were more pcs in the bloc than in the pc party. What is your point? Mulroney wasn't very careful about who was recruited to run for the party that first time around. Nor was Layton last time around. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 I would rather have separatists in the Bloc than in the NDP. I would rather not have them in parliament at all. I think any MP should not only have to swear allegiance to the Queen but allegiance and loyalty to Canada before being allowed to assume office. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Boges Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 I don't think anyone can deny the NDP made its gains in Quebec at the expense of the Bloc. The fact there are closet separatists in their caucus is hardly surprising. Remember the interim leader Jack named before he died. She had separatist ties right? Quote
cybercoma Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 I would rather not have them in parliament at all. I think any MP should not only have to swear allegiance to the Queen but allegiance and loyalty to Canada before being allowed to assume office. I think that's a ridiculous sentiment. They've chosen to seek democratic avenues for secession, rather than undemocratic and violent ways. They should be commended for that. In fact, as citizens of this nation they have every right to having their political position represented by MPs that win enough votes. Quote
shortlived Posted March 2, 2013 Report Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) What is your point? Mulroney wasn't very careful about who was recruited to run for the party that first time around. You seem to be talking sh!t. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. In 1984 Brian Mulroney, Bouchard's close friend from his law school days at Université Laval, became Canadian Prime Minister. You are telling me that Mulroney didn't know Bouchard was a Quebec Nationalist? Who are you trying to defraud here? Mulroney would go on to ask Bouchard to serve in various official capacities, including (in 1985) as Canadian ambassador to France.[ Bouchard returned to Canada to serve as Mulroney's Quebec lieutenant, and was elected as a Progressive Conservative from a Saguenay-area riding. He was immediately named to Cabinet as Secretary of State and later Minister of the Environment. .. now please tell me those early whole Mulroony 3 terms years Mulrooney had no idea of Lucien Bouchards separatist tendencies. This is a "yes the Tories have no seperatists" because they have no seats in Quebec debates... how many alberta seperatists do they have? HMMM? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_separatists#Support_in_conservative_parties Premier Ralph Klein told the Canadian edition of Readers Digest that one in four Albertans were in support of separation How many times have I heard firewall Alberta come out CPC supporters on this site? Where is the purge of seperatists from the party there? Hmmm? Tons of CPC MPs supported wildrose while wildrose is championing the firewall. So lets see how many MPs are supporting firewall alberta? Gessh which high profile MP supports the Alberta firewall... which of these sepertists do you recognize http://albertadiary.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/firewall-writers.jpg Edited March 2, 2013 by shortlived Quote My posts are sometimes edited to create spelling errors if you see one kindly notify me. These edits do not show up as edits as my own edits do, so it is either site moderation, or third party moderation. This includes changing words completely. If a word looks out of place in a message kindly contact me so I can correct it. These changes are not exclusive to this website, and is either a form of net stalking by a malicious hacker, or perhaps government, it has been ongoing for years now.
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