Super Bowl Winner Denied U.S. Entry

[bush_cheney2004]

I think there is a role for common sense here.

Common sense says that border and customs agents have to screen thousands of people each day based on some criteria, and convicted druggies are not going to get any kind of break if they haven't even bothered to get administrative relief on their own.

Dopers...."we're special".

[jbg]

Common sense says that border and customs agents have to screen thousands of people each day based on some criteria, and convicted druggies are not going to get any kind of break if they haven't even bothered to get administrative relief on their own.

Dopers...."we're special".

Your views are akin to those of Joseph McCarthy. If you remember he wrecked the careers of people who, as students, went to a Communist meeting or two. There must be a way for people to escape the impact of youthful indiscretions.

[bush_cheney2004]

Your views are akin to those of Joseph McCarthy. If you remember he wrecked the careers of people who, as students, went to a Communist meeting or two. There must be a way for people to escape the impact of youthful indiscretions.

There are, and this guy did not avail himself of such relief. No time for druggies too lazy to fix this, but not a surprise either. He can watch the Seahawks on TV and smoke all the dope he wants.

[Shady]

I noticed you referenced our local knife nutter………and we just had another such incident a short while ago………..As we speak, I’m penning a proposed knife control law, complete with registry, licensing and full ban on military style assault knifes………In all actuality, why do Canadians even need knives, when clearly the little plastic jobbies you get at Dennys would suffice……….If it saves just one person.

Don't forget to limit the length of the knife and the sharpness of the blades.

[jbg]

There are, and this guy did not avail himself of such relief. No time for druggies too lazy to fix this, but not a surprise either. He can watch the Seahawks on TV and smoke all the dope he wants.

Are you quite sure that someone who had a small amount of marijuana more than thirty years ago is a "druggie"?

[bush_cheney2004]

Are you quite sure that someone who had a small amount of marijuana more than thirty years ago is a "druggie"?

I am sure they were more than thirty years ago (or worse....drug trafficker).

Let me guess....it is no longer politically correct to call them "druggies" or "dopers"....now they are/were victims of chemical dependency and/or the "stupid war on drugs".

[Sleipnir]

I recall Americans being denied access to Canada for the Olympics because of an old DUI. Guess turnabout is fair play?

DUI versus small clump of dead vegetative matter, yeah that's a fair comparison.

[Canuckistani]

It's their law, they can do what they want. If the US bars you entry, you should be glad - much reduces your chances of getting shot. But don't worry doesn't look like it will be the law much longer anyway.

[bush_cheney2004]

I am always amazed by the number of Canadians who complain that they can't gain entry into a country that they hate. If the U.S. "sucks" so bad....stay out. Must be the weather...huh ?

[The_Squid]

I am always amazed by the number of Canadians who complain that they can't gain entry into a country that they hate. If the U.S. "sucks" so bad....stay out. Must be the weather...huh ?

No, in this case it was the Super Bowl. Criticism does not equate to hatred. Stop being a child.

[bush_cheney2004]

No, in this case it was the Super Bowl. Criticism does not equate to hatred. Stop being a child.

The Super Bowl is American....it is played in the United States of America.....stop flunking geography.

Or maybe you are part of the "U.S. sucks until I want something" crowd ?

[guyser]

I am always amazed by the number of Canadians who complain that they can't gain entry into a country that they hate.

Considering the number is very low to non-existent...............

[bush_cheney2004]

Considering the number is very low to non-existent...............

Make up your mind...is it low...or is it non-existent ? I'm serious.....with so much bitching and moaning about the U.S. "iron Curtain" border, domestic policies, and foreign policy, why would such people want to go to the USA ? If Canada is a happier, better place to live, what's the deal ?

There was a former member here who would go on and on about his troubles with U.S. entry, deportation, five year ban, etc. etc. Why so much drama ? Just ignore the USA and live happily ever after in Canada or another country of choice.

Edited February 4, 2013 by bush_cheney2004

[guyser]

Make up your mind...is it low...or is it non-existent ?

It is low to non-existant. There will always be an exception.

I'm serious....

No you are not.

Some people have issues w policies both foreign and domestic. If your country puts itself up as the worlds cop, and they do, not everyone will roll over on everything.

There was a former member here who would go on and on about his troubles with U.S. entry, deportation, five year ban, etc. etc. Why so much drama ?

Yes there was 'A' former member. Anyone could see through his shtick.

[bush_cheney2004]

It is low to non-existant. There will always be an exception.

Then clearly it is not "non-existent".

No you are not.

It's not rational to try and gain entry into a country they hold in such low regard.

Some people have issues w policies both foreign and domestic. If your country puts itself up as the worlds cop, and they do, not everyone will roll over on everything.

Nor should they...but why try to get in so badly ? Wanna go to North Korea and tell them a thing or two as well ?

Yes there was 'A' former member. Anyone could see through his shtick.

It's not rocket science....you go to a border entry checkpoint or customs area and you either get in or you don't. Those who don't usually have issues. Tough tinsel....

Edited February 4, 2013 by bush_cheney2004

[guyser]

Then clearly it is not "non-existent".

Think snow in Death Valley. Statistically non-existant.

It's not rational to try and gain entry into a country they hold in such low regard.

The private American are not the American Govt.

Nor should they...but why try to get in so badly ? Wanna go to North Korea and tell them a thing or two as well ?

Huh?

It's not rocket science....you go to a border entry checkpoint or customs area and you either get in or you don't. Those who don't usually have issues. Tough tinsel....

Its not.

No one ever said it was.

Plenty of american/canuck border towns wish there werent guards being prickish turning back folks for innocous reasons.....say 30 yrs ago an youthful transgression.

Edited February 4, 2013 by guyser

[bush_cheney2004]

Think snow in Death Valley. Statistically non-existant.

Guess again....Death Valley is over 3 million acres of varied terrain and it gets plenty of snow.

The private American are not the American Govt.

A familiar dodge....it's all of the above. The "private American" elects the American Govt.

Huh?

Let's go to the DPRK border and try to get in to protest their domestic and foreign policy....you know....just like with the U.S. That'll show 'em !!

Plenty of american/canuck border towns wish there werent guards being prickish turning back folks for innocous reasons.....say 30 yrs ago an youthful transgression.

How cute....a "youthful transgression". Drug laws only apply to other people !

Edited February 4, 2013 by bush_cheney2004

[guyser]

Guess again....Death Valley is over 3 million acres of varied terrain and it gets plenty of snow.

It does . Rarely, but dont tell me, tell your American neighbours.

— it is a rare sight to capture snow in one of the world's most desolate places. But every now and again, including the first few days of January, Death Valley almost catches some ground cover.

The point is, it is rare.

A familiar dodge....it's all of the above. The "private American" elects the American Govt.

A familiar dumb answer.

If you cant figure that out then there is no use.

Let's go to the DPRK border and try to get in to protest their domestic and foreign policy....you know....just like with the U.S. That'll show 'em !!

What an idiotic comparison. But no surprise.

How cute....a "youthful transgression". Drug laws only apply to other people !

How cute, an old fart stuck in his ways and sees only absolutes.

[bush_cheney2004]

It does . Rarely, but dont tell me, tell your American neighbours.

That's Canadaspeak..."neighbours"....they are fellow Americans to me. Example: President Reagan never opened a speech with "My fellow neighbours".

The point is, it is rare.

But clearly not non-existent. It is predictable, measurable, and a matter of record, just like Canadians hating on the "U.S. Government" as they are turned away at the border. "Don't go home mad, just go home", said the nice Border Agent.

A familiar dumb answer.

If you cant figure that out then there is no use.

Do such Canadians think they are going to influence U.S. policies by huffing and puffing at the border?

What an idiotic comparison. But no surprise.

I agree...idiotic to think that a sovereign state would relent on its right to turn away anyone for any reason at the border

How cute, an old fart stuck in his ways and sees only absolutes.

You can hug the dopers and trafficking "transgressions" all you want, but I absolutely refuse to.

Edited February 5, 2013 by bush_cheney2004

[Guest American Woman]

No, it's just as stupid.

"Turnabout is fair play" isn't a judgement on the rightness or wrongness of the action: "It is fair for one to suffer whatever one has caused others to suffer." One could also say: "what goes around comes around." I think in both instances the border guards were being petty, and said as much, but I can't recall a whole lot of criticism coming out of Canada when some Americans were denied entry to the Olympics.

DUI versus small clump of dead vegetative matter, yeah that's a fair comparison.

In both instances, the law is being broken and both have criminal records.

Maybe the Canadian could end up thanking the customs person, IF when the game is over and the someone that had big money bet loses, they may bring out their gun and starting shooting. It's just about time for another shooting rage in the US.

Yep, it's about that time, eh Topaz? I'm sure in retrospect the winner of this contest is thanking God that he was denied entry - especially since once the Super Bowl is over, it's so common for someone who bet big money to start shooting. I remember that time when .... oh wait, I don't remember. Perhaps you could provide us all with an example?

It's their law, they can do what they want. If the US bars you entry, you should be glad - much reduces your chances of getting shot.

Yeah, he should stick to attending hockey in Canada, where violence never occurs after a game.....

Considering the vast number of Canadian tourists who have been shot in Canada, I'm surprised any Canadian would ever come here. It's really odd that the winner of this contest even entered the contest in the first place. He obviously has a death wish.

Yes, that is sarcasm for those who may have their doubts.

[sharkman]

I noticed you referenced our local knife nutter………and we just had another such incident a short while ago………..As we speak, I’m penning a proposed knife control law, complete with registry, licensing and full ban on military style assault knifes………In all actuality, why do Canadians even need knives, when clearly the little plastic jobbies you get at Dennys would suffice……….If it saves just one person.

I'll support that law, the crazies that cling to their knives and pot are going to kill us all!

[kimmy]

Now isn't this a shame....a Canadian contest winner will not be able to go to the Super Bowl in New Orleans because of cannabis possession a long time ago:

A Vancouver Island man who won an all-expenses-paid trip to the Super Bowl in New Orleans has been refused entry into the U.S. because of a marijuana possession conviction dating back to 1981.

YEAAAAHHH BOOOOIIII! That'll show them Canucks! BOOO-YAH! Whatcha gonna do now, frostbacks? USA! USA! USA! USA!

Good to know that Americans are getting their money's worth for the $8 billion they spend on the TSA.

-k

[shortlived]

Now isn't this a shame....a Canadian contest winner will not be able to go to the Super Bowl in New Orleans because of cannabis possession a long time ago:

A Vancouver Island man who won an all-expenses-paid trip to the Super Bowl in New Orleans has been refused entry into the U.S. because of a marijuana possession conviction dating back to 1981.

Victoria resident Myles Wilkinson won the trip in a fantasy football league contest, competing against nearly four million other players for the chance to attend the National Football League championship, featuring the Baltimore Ravens and the San Francisco 49ers.

But when he got to Pearson International Airport in Toronto on Thursday,

U.S. customs agents learned of a marijuana possession conviction in Vancouver in 1981 and told him he was not allowed to enter the country.

"I had two grams of cannabis. I paid a $50 fine," Wilkinson told CBC news.

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...d-us-entry.html

This guy didn't have much to lose by trying, but surely anybody with a criminal record on either side of the border knows that access is going to be a problem.

U.S. Customs 1, Dopers 0

US customs enjoys offending people. The guy was absolutely no risk to the US, the denial was BS.

The real issue is that a Canadian beat Americans, that is all there is to it. Any excuse to put down someone who beats Americans in some way. Americans are jealous beyond compare. They can't be trusted, they'll skin you and damage you without a second heart consideration. Normally non moral turpitude issues are only considered for perhaps up to 5 years. This was just malice.

It is "their country" of course but my experiences with customs have only created hate and contempt.

I've gotten along quite well with americans and would never intentionally break criminal law in another country, regardless of it being the US. Yet customs refuses entry because of "refusal of entry" without valid grounds, on suspicion. Because there has ever been suspicion, I cannot enter the US without a visa it is nonsense considering the grounds of suspicion were completely false and not based on fact.

Essentially CBP just indiscirminately politically pick and choose who can enter the US.

They don't have to let you in, even though Canadians are suppose to have B1/B2 status by treaty. Just remember treaty means nothing to the US.

America can't be trusted. Never depend on America. They will stab you when it matters most.

Edited February 10, 2013 by shortlived

[Guest American Woman]

US customs enjoys offending people. The guy was absolutely no risk to the US, the denial was BS.

The real issue is that a Canadian beat Americans, that is all there is to it. Any excuse to put down someone who beats Americans in some way. Americans are jealous beyond compare. They can't be trusted, they'll skin you and damage you without a second heart consideration. Normally non moral turpitude issues are only considered for perhaps up to 5 years. This was just malice. [...]

I cannot enter the US without a visa it is nonsense considering the grounds of suspicion were completely false and not based on fact.

Essentially CBP just indiscirminately politically pick and choose who can enter the US.

They don't have to let you in, even though Canadians are suppose to have B1/B2 status by treaty. Just remember treaty means nothing to the US.

America can't be trusted. Never depend on America. They will stab you when it matters most.

Hmmmm.....

It is "their country" of course but my experiences with customs have only created hate and contempt.

With such an attitude, that's so difficult to understand!

But considering how you feel, why would you even want to enter the U.S.?

[bush_cheney2004]

....But considering how you feel, why would you even want to enter the U.S.?

This is a recurring mystery around here. Why would any such persons even think about entering the U.S. ? It is a very inconsistent mindset.