Rob Ford, mayor of Toronto UPDATES

[Guest American Woman]

BTW....what does DERP stand for?

It's an insult:

1. derp

August 21, 2012 Urban Word of the Day

A simple, undefined reply when an ignorant comment or action is made. Brought to life in the South Park series, when Mr. Derp made a guest apperance at South Park Elementary as the chef for a day, followed by hitting himself in the head with a hammer and exclaiming "Derp!"

As for whether it would be a conflict of interest to use information gained by working for The Star for personal profit/benefit, that's an interesting point; I wonder if The Star would prohibit employees from using information that way?

Edited July 31, 2013 by American Woman

[Keepitsimple]

It's an insult:

1. derp

August 21, 2012 Urban Word of the Day

A simple, undefined reply when an ignorant comment or action is made. Brought to life in the South Park series, when Mr. Derp made a guest apperance at South Park Elementary as the chef for a day, followed by hitting himself in the head with a hammer and exclaiming "Derp!"

As for whether it would be a conflict of interest to use information gained by working for The Star for personal profit/benefit, that's an interesting point; I wonder if The Star would prohibit employees from using information that way?

I'm not sure....it just doesn't feel right. I could understand writing the book after leaving the Star (after an appropriate amount of time) - or retiring. Companies usually have policies that treat a lot of information as proprietary, including trade secrets - of which the methods of gathering news through sources may be touchy areas - along with ownership/editorial influences/bias. It's a slippery area that I would think most companies/media would like to avoid through Employment Agreements.

[Guest American Woman]

I'm not sure....it just doesn't feel right. I could understand writing the book after leaving the Star (after an appropriate amount of time) - or retiring. Companies usually have policies that treat a lot of information as proprietary, including trade secrets - of which the methods of gathering news through sources may be touchy areas - along with ownership/editorial influences/bias. It's a slippery area that I would think most companies/media would like to avoid through Employment Agreements.

Agreed. That's what I was thinking, too.

[Black Dog]

I'm not sure....it just doesn't feel right. I could understand writing the book after leaving the Star (after an appropriate amount of time) - or retiring. Companies usually have policies that treat a lot of information as proprietary, including trade secrets - of which the methods of gathering news through sources may be touchy areas - along with ownership/editorial influences/bias. It's a slippery area that I would think most companies/media would like to avoid through Employment Agreements.

Christie Blatchford of the Post has written at least two books (one on Afghanistan and one on Caledonia) based on her reporting. That's one example off the top of my head, I'm certain there are others. This is not at all uncommon.

[guyser]

I'm not sure....it just doesn't feel right. It's a slippery area that I would think most companies/media would like to avoid through Employment Agreements.

Not sure why your feelings are such in the presence of plenty of evidence the other way.

Reporter writes book , paper gets 1- advertisment , 2-distribution monies (sometimes at least) , 3- keeps the reporter. Win Win.

Mike FIley made a living doing this, writing for the Sun, selling books thru the Sun.

Boston Globe reporters who covered the marathon bombing have one ready to go.

Peter Worthington wrote books and sold them thru the Sun.

[Boges]

The guy who wrote Marley and Me based the book on columns he wrote for a newspaper.

I have no problem with her writing a book while working for a publication. I just find her fixation on Ford rather creepy.

[Black Dog]

The guy who wrote Marley and Me based the book on columns he wrote for a newspaper.

I have no problem with her writing a book while working for a publication. I just find her fixation on Ford rather creepy.

Is she not a City Hall reporter?

[Boges]

Is she not a City Hall reporter?

She was hounding the Property Manager for his Condo down in Florida. That goes beyond City Hall business.

[Black Dog]

She was hounding the Property Manager for his Condo down in Florida. That goes beyond City Hall business.

Link? Or is this just from noted fabulist DoFo?

[Boges]

http://www.680news.com/2013/07/22/coun-doug-ford-lashes-out-at-toronto-newspaper/

Yeah Doug Ford mentioned it.

I can't find proof of it but there were radio interviews in the wake of Ford's rant with the property manager where he detailed encounters with Dolittle.

[Guest American Woman]

http://www.680news.com/2013/07/22/coun-doug-ford-lashes-out-at-toronto-newspaper/

Yeah Doug Ford mentioned it.

I can't find proof of it but there were radio interviews in the wake of Ford's rant with the property manager where he detailed encounters with Dolittle.

This may be what you're looking for:

Doolittle has been doing research down in Florida recently, where the Ford family owns a condo. Because this isn’t enough of a Seinfeld episode already, Doug introduces the president of the condo association, Vito. Vito confirms that he spoke with Doolittle, and describes her as “pretty” and “flirty.” He goes on to say that Doolittle had questions about whether Rob “partied hard” when he was at the condo, and Vito says this is not the case.

http://torontoist.com/2013/07/the-rob-ford-radio-recap-stalkers-and-assassins/

[Black Dog]

From AW's link:

Now is a good time to mention that Rob and Doug have a very different sense of “stalking” or “ambushes” than most public figures. After all, when Global TV reporter Jackson Proskow knocked on the door of the Ford family company, Deco Labels and Tags, to ask Doug if he wanted to do an interview, Doug later called that an “ambush.” When the Star‘s Daniel Dale visited a park behind Rob’s home to better understand a parcel of public land the mayor was trying to purchase, that was “stalking.” But there’s another, better term for these types of actions, and Doug should understand it. It’s called “journalism,” and it’s what you get when you’re a powerful public figure who refuses to answer questions in the public interest.

[guyser]

Well , if Doug said they did, then we know for sure they didnt.

The man is a liar...a non stop liar.

[Black Dog]

Fordo today advised residents to call 9-11 when they see someone putting up graffiti.

[Guest American Woman]

Well , if Doug said they did, then we know for sure they didnt.

The man is a liar...a non stop liar.

Note that I didn't quote Ford. Note that my quote referred to the president of the condo association.

Again.

Vito confirms that he spoke with Doolittle, and describes her as “pretty” and “flirty.” He goes on to say that Doolittle had questions about whether Rob “partied hard” when he was at the condo, and Vito says this is not the case.

Edited July 31, 2013 by American Woman

[Keepitsimple]

Christie Blatchford of the Post has written at least two books (one on Afghanistan and one on Caledonia) based on her reporting. That's one example off the top of my head, I'm certain there are others. This is not at all uncommon.

Christie is not a staff reporter - she is an independent columnist who does work for the Post - among others. I'm still not completely sure - but it just doesn't make good buisiness sense to allow a current fulltime employee to write a book that could put the company in a bad light - or at least a controversial one.

Edited July 31, 2013 by Keepitsimple

[guyser]

Note that I didn't quote Ford.

Oh you quoted it alright.

Its in the link you posted. No idea why you would say it like it s a bad thing.

[Black Dog]

Christie is not a staff reporter - she is an independent columnist who does work for the Post - among others.

I have no idea what an "independent columnist" is. She's not a freelancer. Her work appears in one publication and one only.

I'm still not completely sure - but it just doesn't make good buisiness sense to allow a current fulltime employee to write a book that could put the company in a bad light - or at least a controversial one.

I expect the papers that employ these people full time get a piece of the pie. Again: this happens all the time.

[Guest American Woman]

Oh you quoted it alright.

Its in the link you posted. No idea why you would say it like it s a bad thing.

It may be in the link I posted, but it's not in the quote I quoted and I say it like it's true - because it is. I was referring to what Vito had to say. Nothing to say about that, I noticed.

[guyser]

It may be in the link I posted, but it's not in the quote I quoted and I say it like it's true - because it is. I was referring to what Vito had to say. Nothing to say about that, I noticed.

You quoted Doug, no way around that...unless of course you were trying to be clever by ommitting the line preceeding your quote that says "Doug introduces the president of the condo association, Vito."

Good grief.

Here's your quote/...

Vito confirms that he spoke with Doolittle, and describes her as “pretty” and “flirty.” He goes on to say that Doolittle had questions about whether Rob “partied hard” when he was at the condo, and Vito says this is not the case.

Heres the quote from Doug..." Vito confirms that he spoke with Doolittle, and describes her as “pretty” and “flirty.” He goes on to say that Doolittle had questions about whether Rob “partied hard” when he was at the condo, and Vito says this is not the case

Do tell us what the big diff is. This should be good.

Edited July 31, 2013 by Guyser2

[Shady]

Fordo today advised residents to call 9-11 when they see someone putting up graffiti.

What's the problem? It's vandalism. If you saw somebody breaking a window, would you not call the police? You guys gotta get a grip on the Ford obsession.

Edited July 31, 2013 by Shady

[Guest American Woman]

You quoted Doug, no way around that...unless of course you ommited the line preceeding your quote that says "Doug introduces the president of the condo association, Vito."

Good grief.

Here's your quote/...

Vito confirms that he spoke with Doolittle, and describes her as “pretty” and “flirty.” He goes on to say that Doolittle had questions about whether Rob “partied hard” when he was at the condo, and Vito says this is not the case.

Heres the quote from Doug..." Vito confirms that he spoke with Doolittle, and describes her as “pretty” and “flirty.” He goes on to say that Doolittle had questions about whether Rob “partied hard” when he was at the condo, and Vito says this is not the case

Do tell us what the big diff is.

I quoted David Hains. The article is "BY DAVID HAINS." David Hains is giving a recap, saying Doug introduced Vito, and Vito confirmed that Doolittle had questions about whether Rob "partied hard." That's quoting Hains quoting Vito.

So "the big diff" is that I didn't quote Ford, as you are claiming.

This should be good.

Everything I post is good. No reason this should be any different.

Edited July 31, 2013 by American Woman

[guyser]

I quoted David Hains. The article is "BY DAVID HAINS." David Hains is giving a recap, saying Doug introduced Vito, and Vito confirmed that Doolittle had questions about whether Rob "partied hard." That's quoting Hains quoting Vito.

Oh facepalm icon please.

Hains quoted Doug.You quoted Doug. Its not Hains words, he isnt saying them, its Doug saying them, One cannot quote someone reporting thew third party word.

So "the big diff" is that I didn't quote Ford, as you are claiming.

You quoted Ford.

You referenced Hains article which quotes Ford. Pure childishness to suggest otherwise.

Everything I post is good. No reason this should be any different.

Ok.

[Guest American Woman]

Oh facepalm icon please.

Right back at'cha. Doug wasn't being quoted. Vito was. EOS.

[guyser]

Edited July 31, 2013 by Guyser2