Rob Ford, mayor of Toronto UPDATES

[GostHacked]

What is, the fact that one of the drug dealers was a visual arts student so would know how to manufacture a video.

I am no visual arts student, but I could easily pull off something like this as well. Making a video is really not that hard. I've done quite a few at this stage.

[BubberMiley]

I am no visual arts student, but I could easily pull off something like this as well. Making a video is really not that hard. I've done quite a few at this stage.

You could make a believable video of a recognizable person saying things he never said and doing things he never did?

Wow. Considering no one else ever has managed to do so (and I'm still waiting for anyone to show me one), that's impressive.

[GostHacked]

You could make a believable video of a recognizable person saying things he never said and doing things he never did?

Wow. Considering no one else ever has managed to do so (and I'm still waiting for anyone to show me one), that's impressive.

It might be a little difficult but not impossible for the average person to pull something like this off. The technology available to the average person now for making films is quite good. I could not do that 10 years ago with the tech we had.

I've worked with some static shots and semi-stop animation with green screen for my own projects. Once you learn a few simple techniques it is quite easy.

So first I need a big fat Rob Ford lookalike. I'll dub the voice in later using bits of some of his speeches.

[Rue]

I am not a lawyer , never said I was.

... he isnt guilty of any criminal stuff.....Maybe you should focus on the issue instead of coming here and pontificating such shite as you have.

Attitude? LOL , take a look at your own off point diatribes.

I was confused by your earlier response that stated and I quote " I am a lawyer way"

Excuse me I read that back I understand you were trying to sound like Keannu Reeves. kawabunga dude.

Read what I stated. I have never stated he is guilty of anything. Try read. I stated why there could be grounds for a criminal investigation.

I have been arguing due process from day one. If you can't understand the point I was making ask.

Attitude? I dish out what comes at me.

As for the fat boy comments, they were sarcasm to go along with the righteous tone of people ridiculing him. You find it offensive I call him a fat boy? Try understand the context. Calling him the names many have are simply couched words for calling him a fat boy. I all a spade a spade and a fat boy a fat boy. I don't couch the words. I am pointing out how stupid the whole lynch fat boy circus has become. If you can't get that, all I can say is like wow man, no way you weigh that like way.

[BubberMiley]

So first I need a big fat Rob Ford lookalike. I'll dub the voice in later using bits of some of his speeches.

Excellent. But no example of anyone ever believably doing such a thing...

[Bryan]

You could make a believable video of a recognizable person saying things he never said and doing things he never did?

Wow. Considering no one else ever has managed to do so (and I'm still waiting for anyone to show me one), that's impressive.

It's done all the time. People who have been dead for years get featured in new commercials.

[BubberMiley]

It's done all the time. People who have been dead for years get featured in new commercials.

Those commercials use footage of the dead person, taken before they're dead, doing things they did and saying things they said. Where it strays from that at all, it's an obvious inorganic digital construct. Please, anyone, show me otherwise...

[guyser]

It's done all the time.

Canadas formeost video analyst said it would be almost impossible to do and fool people.

But hey, what does an expert know.

Maybe you slept in a Holiday Inn last night?

[GostHacked]

Excellent. But no example of anyone ever believably doing such a thing...

If this video turns out to be faked , then you may want to believe it!

[GostHacked]

Canadas formeost video analyst said it would be almost impossible to do and fool people.

But hey, what does an expert know.

Maybe you slept in a Holiday Inn last night?

There are a lot of good fakes out online, there are people who know what they are doing. That video analyst is in my view, is lying.

Now mind you this next example was done by professionals in a mock documentary in which people thought it was real. It was about mermaids.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1816585/reviews

Good chance you put something in front of someone and they will think it is real.

[BubberMiley]

Now mind you this next example was done by professionals in a mock documentary in which people thought it was real. It was about mermaids.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1816585/reviews

All you can come up with, from the whole internet, is an IMDB link to a fake documentary about mermaids? I already knew you can dress people up in mermaid suits convincingly. I'm asking for a believable video of a recognizable individual saying things he never said and doing things he never did. You claim you can create it, so someone must have done so. Just show me one. Impress me.

[GostHacked]

All you can come up with, from the whole internet, is an IMDB link to a fake documentary about mermaids? I already knew you can dress people up in mermaid suits convincingly. I'm asking for a believable video of a recognizable individual saying things he never said and doing things he never did. You claim you can create it, so someone must have done so. Just show me one. Impress me.

I don't have an example, I am simply saying it can be done. For one if this video actually exists (which I tend to believe it really does not exist) and Ford is innocent, then yes the video was faked.

If this video is in fact real and not faked, then that spells trouble for Ford.

If this video is a fake, then who is setting him up?

[BubberMiley]

I don't have an example, I am simply saying it can be done.

You've never seen it done, you can't provide an example of a time when it was done, but you are simply saying it can be done. Gotcha.

[Fletch 27]

Your arguing the existence of a video that never ever existed.. Let him have his night-time sleep-aid in the belief that there was a Video.. The astute among us understand that there should at least be "proof"... Some simply need hear-say... Like the Police Officer that openly discussed Jack Laytons capture at a rub-n-tug..

I would ask,, Can we take this officers below notes as Fact?

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The officer's notebook indicates he asked the suspected john: "Did you receive any sexual services?"

He replied: "No sir, I was just getting a shiatsu."

The cop: "Why did you have all your clothes off?"

The suspected john: No answer.

The cop: "Are you aware that there were sex acts being done here?"

The suspected john: "No sir."

The woman, who was from mainland China, denied masturbating the suspected john but when the question was repeated became nervous and replied, "I don't know I only come to work today," the cop's notes show.

His notes also claim he saw the "female dump wet Kleenex into garbage."

After all, the Officers notes have NOT "disappeared"..

I don't have an example, I am simply saying it can be done. For one if this video actually exists (which I tend to believe it really does not exist) and Ford is innocent, then yes the video was faked.

If this video is in fact real and not faked, then that spells trouble for Ford.

If this video is a fake, then who is setting him up?

[guyser]

Some of you are a hoot !

Video doesnt exist even though 3 people have seen it.
Ford doesnt deny that it used to exist, doesnt deny he used to smoke crack.

Doesnt answer how or why he is in attendance at a known crack hangout.

Not one of you can show anything , although you keep saying it, of the sort as to manufactured story by the Star

No one has shown how this is a witch hunt

The circle is tightening daily.

Rob Ford, providing laughs daily , but not doing any work for the city.

Good stuff !

[BubberMiley]

Your arguing the existence of a video that never ever existed.. Let him have his night-time sleep-aid in the belief that there was a Video..

All you're doing is demonstrating that you only believe evidence when it agrees with your political agenda. There was a video before the police-documented home invasion. There is still a verified photo of Ford, at night, with a murder victim in front of the drug house that was invaded. You don't require any explanation from Ford about the circumstances of that photo, just as you wouldn't require any explanation from Ford about the circumstances of the video.

And I hate to tell you, but Jack Layton is dead.

[Fletch 27]

Ok, let me tell you again... The Police officers report exists.. Its tangible.. You can read it with your own eyes.. Its been in print and you yourself can attain it under the freedom of information act.. It takes about 4-7 weeks..

"At night",, "with a murder victim"... "In front of a drug house"... Sure sounds like case closed to me Matlock!

I have a photo of me with a person who passed away in a car accident.. at night... Did I kill them???

Now all we have is hearsay from a "reporter" and a "bloggist"..on a Video.. And you gobble it up for your own political agenda

All you're doing is demonstrating that you only believe evidence when it agrees with your political agenda. There was a video before the police-documented home invasion. There is still a verified photo of Ford, at night, with a murder victim in front of the drug house that was invaded. You don't require any explanation from Ford about the circumstances of that photo, just as you wouldn't require any explanation from Ford about the circumstances of the video.

And I hate to tell you, but Jack Layton is dead.

[BubberMiley]

Now all we have is hearsay from a "reporter" and a "bloggist"..on a Video.. And you gobble it up for your own political agenda

Are you waiting for Twoney to deny he was fired for telling Ford to get rehab? He won't. Are you waiting for his trusted campaign manager to deny saying he won't manage his campaign until he goes to rehab? He won't.

I believe "hearsay" about Ford just as you believe "hearsay" about Layton. I also include real-life evidence when forming my opinions, like real-life photographs that he refuses to talk about.

In regards to Layton, you refuse to acknowledge that the police report indicated Layton was doing nothing wrong. Nonetheless, he might have been up to no good. I agree.

That still leave you flogging a dead politician to distract from the live one in office.

[guyser]

"At night",, "with a murder victim"... "In front of a drug house"... Sure sounds like case closed to me Matlock!

Pretty much.

Has Rob answered for that?

Nope

I have a photo of me with a person who passed away in a car accident.. at night... Did I kill them???

Did anyone anywhere ever opine that Rob killed anyone?

Nope

Now all we have is hearsay from a "reporter" and a "bloggist"..on a Video.. And you gobble it up for your own political agenda

Dont know the meaning of hearsay do you ? Didnt think so.

You ignore the reality , you deny any of the allegations , to support the Mayor in the face of plenty of information to which he wont answer.

My political agenda is this, he sucks as Mayor, has not a couth bone in his body , looks like an idiot in front of cameras, hums and haws far too much, cant answer the simplist of questions, has an almost as moronic brother answer questions even though he isnt mayor. Worries about answering phone calls about a pot hole vs doing the major city work. Has lost all confidence of anyone on council , not a paper nor reporter in this country believes him , politico's want nothing to do with him and his brother (CPC's dont want him)

But hey....you go right ahead and keep on supporting this atrocity. He suits you!

[Fletch 27]

Well, We still flog other dead Leaders do we not? He was in no way golden... As many other dead ones..

Here is a good example from this week,,, same as Twoneys..

DOW Corning CEO reprimands Director level architect and team for stealing intellectual property... The team of 7 go on a media blitz claiming ineptitude in running DOW.. DOW CEO fires them.. When that "women" publically stated Ford should step down,, He has full right to fire her, When Twoney made the statements he did, I would fire him too..

When your advisers and staff turn,, you fire them.. What would you have done.. Kept them on board???

What would you say if you were Layton... "Yes, I was here for sex"? Or play dumb like each and every other "John"... "Oh, I was just giving her a ride".. Yup,,

Are you waiting for Twoney to deny he was fired for telling Ford to get rehab? He won't. Are you waiting for his trusted campaign manager to deny saying he won't manage his campaign until he goes to rehab? He won't.
I believe "hearsay" about Ford just as you believe "hearsay" about Layton. I also include real-life evidence when forming my opinions, like real-life photographs that he refuses to talk about.
In regards to Layton, you refuse to acknowledge that the police report indicated Layton was doing nothing wrong. Nonetheless, he might have been up to no good. I agree.
That still leave you flogging a dead politician to distract from the live one in office.

[Fletch 27]

So, you don't like his looks.. Never mind the greatly improved Finances (A platform he ran on?).

I will look for a nice photo of George Clooney for you.. Think of him when Ford talks and do what you will.

We cant all be beauty queens..

Pretty much.

Has Rob answered for that?
Nope
Did anyone anywhere ever opine that Rob killed anyone?
Nope
Dont know the meaning of hearsay do you ? Didnt think so.

You ignore the reality , you deny any of the allegations , to support the Mayor in the face of plenty of information to which he wont answer.

My political agenda is this, he sucks as Mayor, has not a couth bone in his body , looks like an idiot in front of cameras, hums and haws far too much, cant answer the simplist of questions, has an almost as moronic brother answer questions even though he isnt mayor. Worries about answering phone calls about a pot hole vs doing the major city work. Has lost all confidence of anyone on council , not a paper nor reporter in this country believes him , politico's want nothing to do with him and his brother (CPC's dont want him)

But hey....you go right ahead and keep on supporting this atrocity. He suits you!

[guyser]

deflection deflectiondeflectiondeflectiondeflectiondeflectiondeflectideflection

Sha la la......

[guyser]

So, you don't like his looks..

Never mentioned his looks. Still deflecting are we?

Never mind the greatly improved Finances (A platform he ran on?).

Huh? He didnt do much there but kool aid drinkers think so. Try the strawberry LOL

[BubberMiley]

When your advisers and staff turn,, you fire them.. What would you have done.. Kept them on board???

I'm not criticizing him for firing him. I'm saying that when a politician's trusted inner circle do not in any way deny repeated reports that they no longer work for him because they stated he should seek rehab, I am reasonable in assuming the fellow might need rehab--particularly when there are photos of him with crack dealers and testimony from journalists that he was recorded smoking crack.

I would go so far as to suggest I am also reasonable in assuming there is more to the home invasions and shootings than we have heard so far.

[Fletch 27]

"looks like an idiot"

Yes, You did.. When someone acts as you do on here.. I seldom bother with a reply.. Its immature and,, probably the same attention Rob gives to some of these silly question..

So,, YES you did..

Sha-la-la? Really?

Never mentioned his looks. Still deflecting are we?
Huh? He didnt do much there but kool aid drinkers think so. Try the strawberry LOL