-TSS- Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 These kind of lists have only entertainment-value, nothing else, yet still people seem to be taking these lists as if they were some sort of gospel of truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Sure they are. Just for the record, I said right of centre. But of course that could get lost on someone who think teabaggers are right of centre.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Just for the record, I said right of centre. And I said sure they are. But of course that could get lost on someone who think teabaggers are right of centre.... What's a teabagger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Norway does not belong to the EU, they have oil and even if the oil runs out today their reserve-funds would secure them a comfortable lifestyle for the next 200 years. Having said that they have been lucky to have politicians who have resisted demands by people that those funds should be squandered here and now for the benefit of the people who live today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckistani Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Norway does not belong to the EU, they have oil and even if the oil runs out today their reserve-funds would secure them a comfortable lifestyle for the next 200 years. Having said that they have been lucky to have politicians who have resisted demands by people that those funds should be squandered here and now for the benefit of the people who live today. And those people demanding they squander the money have elected the politicians - wonder how that works. Yes, Norway has it figured out. High taxes but a strong welfare state with high incomes and very little poverty. People aren't all about chasing the buck. And of course the other Scandinavian states are right up there too, without oil, they too have a winning formula. Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland are ranked by the World Bank as being in the top 10 countries to do business, yet they have high taxes and as strong social safety net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 What's a teabagger?Derogatory term for a Tea Party believer in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) The term "Teabagger" is a sexual slur that is quite ironic when used by liberals, as it conveys a disdain and disapproval for sexual behaviour. President Obama got in on the act back in a 2009 interview: "set the tenor for the whole year ... That helped to create the tea-baggers and empowered that whole wing of the Republican Party to where it now controls the agenda for the Republicans." http://www.theatlant...-baggers/19782/ Even though the slur can apply to any sexual orientation, it can also be perceived as pointedly anti-gay male as well. Staying on-topic, the U.S. is one of the best places to be born for "teabagging". Edited February 10, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I didn't know that Obama had referred to Tea Partiers as "teabaggers." How utterly inappropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I didn't know that Obama had referred to Tea Partiers as "teabaggers." How utterly inappropriate. I was surprised as well....I think some people use the term not realizing exactly what the slur refers to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I was surprised as well....I think some people use the term not realizing exactly what the slur refers to. I agree, and I'm guessing that was the case with Obama, but he should have come out and acknowledged that that's what happened, and apologized. That he didn't do that is what I really take issue with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I agree, and I'm guessing that was the case with Obama, but he should have come out and acknowledged that that's what happened, and apologized. That he didn't do that is what I really take issue with. Yes, and Press Sec'y Robert Gibbs was subsequently challenged on that very point. Realizing it was a lose-lose situation, he just dismissed the quote and book as not being read or familiar to him. http://www.mediaite.com/online/robert-gibbs-wont-touch-tea-bagger-quote-with-a-ten-foot-pole/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 When I read your initial post, my reaction was that most likely it was said in ignorance - so I tried to see if I could find any instances of him apologizing for it. This is the best I could find: White House spokesman Bill Burton responded Wednesday evening by saying he had no reason to dispute the accuracy of the quote in Alterman's book, adding that the term was not meant to be derogatory in any way. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/05/new-book-quotes-obama-describing-tea-partiers-tea-baggers/#ixzz2KWlByp5V To me that reads as an acknowledgement that he did say it, along with an explanation that it wasn't meant to be derogatory, but the fact that it's coming from a White House spokesman rather than Obama himself is what I am critical of; it's not very admirable on Obama's part, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Since it appears that tea baggers conscripted the phrase themselves prior to the President using it in a somewhat perjorative manner, whats the hullabaloo about again? Tea party demonstrators had signs ...'Tea bag the Liberal Dems in Washington before they tea bag you" and others. Its pretty funny , not to mention the simple fact that they picked a word such as that without anyone thinking it through. Ya gotta laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 oh pleeese! Stop your fake outrage!!! Teabaggers was a term that originated within the Tea Party itself... many within the party referred to themselves by the name... they sold paraphernalia with the label prominently displayed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckistani Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Well, any group that can have a slogan of "keep your government hands off my medicare" is obviously not composed of the brightest bulbs in the American chandelier. But then the whole thing looks pretty dim these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I had to look it up, didn't I... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) oh pleeese! Stop your fake outrage!!! How about you stop claiming that I what *I* feel is "fake?" Teabaggers was a term that originated within the Tea Party itself... many within the party referred to themselves by the name... they sold paraphernalia with the label prominently displayed! I would certainly appreciate evidence of said paraphernalia. Edited to add: I did manage to find a "teabagger and proud of it" bumper sticker. At any rate, I see that some in the party did use the term - but not in the derogatory way it's been used by opponents - and I say that as a strong opponent of the party myself. I feel that the use of the term by the POTUS is definitely inappropriate, and I stand by that. I think it's inappropriate in its context in most instances, just as I think the word "nigger" can have different connotations depending on who's saying it - and why. Quite frankly, I think it's a term that should disappear from the political scene - on both sides. Edited February 10, 2013 by American Woman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Well, any group that can have a slogan of "keep your government hands off my medicare" is obviously not composed of the brightest bulbs in the American chandelier. But then the whole thing looks pretty dim these days. ...and yet, the American "chendelier" has always shined brighter than Canada's. Edited February 10, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) On sale now and at the next tea bagger rally ! (made in china) Edited February 10, 2013 by guyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I would certainly appreciate evidence of said paraphernalia.Edited to add: I did manage to find a "teabagger and proud of it" bumper sticker. you're welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 [/size] Edited to add: I did manage to find a "teabagger and proud of it" bumper sticker. At any rate, I see that some in the party did use the term - but not in the derogatory way it's been used by opponents - Unfortunately for this line of thinking to work means the right didnt use it as a derogatory term. but they did. It got turned back on them as everyone else cottoned on. Kind of "How dare you use a term like that, only we can ! " Gotta laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 you're welcome! So you think that sign is an example of "sold paraphernalia with the label prominently displayed?" I already acknowledged, as quoted in your response, that I did find bumper stickers using the term, so your pin wasn't really necessary. And I did address it. Nothing to say about that, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Kind of "How dare you use a term like that, only we can ! " Gotta laugh You wouldn't be laughing at a HRC circus hearing if you tried to use of the "N-word" while others routinely do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckistani Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 ...and yet, the American "chendelier" has always shined brighter than Canada's. Proves my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 So you think that sign is an example of "sold paraphernalia with the label prominently displayed?" dunno... are you certain the "Teabagging 4 Jesus" sign wasn't a commercially sold product? Nothing to say about that, eh?what's to say? Apparently, you can interpret... read into... the use and intent behind the label 'Teabagger'. To you, it certainly couldn't mean a member of the Tea Party! No, it absolutely has to be a derogatory pejorative, rather than a simple identifier.here, have another: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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