List of children who have been killed by U.S. drones

bush_cheney2004 · January 27, 2013

...The first response to colonialism in the M.E. was also protests, uprisings and revolutions; but when it became clear that the U.S. was going to use the entire weight of its Navy and assorted military assets to maintain the flow of oil under terms that maximized extraction at lowest cost available...

A move welcomed by Canada in its search for lucrative oil services contracts, culminating with PMPM dining with Ghadaffy in his tent. Prior to this, Canada's manufactured role as "peacekeeper" during the Suez Crisis only served to maintain the Arab Oil status quo, with American military and economic muscle carrying the day.

Canada's continued and leading complicity in oil and mineral extraction around the world at high cost to the locals and environment still has not spawned a global jihad.

PIK · January 31, 2013

Good guys aren't supposed to indiscriminately kill people.

There is not a army in the world that does so much not to hurt civilians as america.

WWWTT · February 1, 2013

Yep...just ask the First Nations in Canada.

As if there was no "First Nations" in the US???

What happened to Crazy Horse???

WWWTT

WWWTT · February 1, 2013

Yes, the national socialist german workers party were big right-wingers.

Wrong again Shady!

Hitler was very,very anti union!

WWWTT

bush_cheney2004 · February 1, 2013

As if there was no "First Nations" in the US???

No...they are Americans.

What happened to Crazy Horse???

He died like many other Americans.....then a Polish immigrant and his family decided to build him a monument in South Dakota.

DogOnPorch · February 1, 2013

Wrong again Shady!

Hitler was very,very anti union!

WWWTT

When you get to Stalin and Hitler, the old democratic spectrum no longer applies. Nazi Germany was an oligarchy.

WIP · February 1, 2013

As if there was no "First Nations" in the US???

What happened to Crazy Horse???

WWWTT

Yes, the U.S. spilt blood in many cases as they pushed the original inhabitants west (that's how the Cherokees ended up halfway across the Country in Oklahoma!) or were marginalized to lands that the Americans didn't think they would need. After the Civil War ended it was time to tear up all the treaties with the plains tribes and those in the Southwest and send soldiers to enforce the reservation policy on all the territories by the end of the 19th century. My point....while I was wasting my time trying to reason with people who've never picked up a book on our Canadian history....is that we (both the French and the English) made much more generous arrangements with the locals because we had one tenth the numbers of white Europeans as the Americans did, and made agreements and signed treaties that the Federal and provincial governments want to tear up today....or just pretend that they don't exist.

Which is worse? The U.S. treatment of natives or the Canadian story? Hard to say...they're both abysmal, and that's why patriotic flagwavers in Canada and the U.S. are so adamant about sweeping all of this under the rug today and pretending that it never happened!

bush_cheney2004 · February 1, 2013

....Which is worse? The U.S. treatment of natives or the Canadian story? Hard to say...they're both abysmal, and that's why patriotic flagwavers in Canada and the U.S. are so adamant about sweeping all of this under the rug today and pretending that it never happened!

The U.S. is well aware of it's history with natives and doesn't have to remind Americans by referring to Canada, provinces, broken treaties, etc. Education begins at home.

February 1, 2013

The U.S. is well aware of it's history with natives and doesn't have to remind Americans by referring to Canada, provinces, broken treaties, etc. Education begins at home.

My thoughts exactly.

GostHacked · February 8, 2013

The U.S. is well aware of it's history with natives and doesn't have to remind Americans by referring to Canada, provinces, broken treaties, etc. Education begins at home.

Oh the ironing.

Bonam · February 9, 2013

Which is worse? The U.S. treatment of natives or the Canadian story? Hard to say...they're both abysmal, and that's why patriotic flagwavers in Canada and the U.S. are so adamant about sweeping all of this under the rug today and pretending that it never happened!

Pretending that what never happened?

bud · February 9, 2013

check out the hippie momma's confronting america's dark practice:

WIP · February 9, 2013

check out the hippie momma's confronting america's dark practice:

According to Code Pink's website, they had 8 demonstrators at the hearing who were removed and arrested for their protest interrupting the soft ball cross examination of Obama's assassin-in-chief.

The audio edition of Democracy Now is one of my podcast subscriptions. After the interview with Medea Benjamin, this segment that included an analysis by Jeremy Scahill focused on so many questions about the Obama Administration's drone assassination strategy that you would think the mainstream media would be all over, you have to conclude that they are avoiding the issue and providing little if no coverage of the hearing with John Brennan, that the unmistakeable conclusion is that their interests are tied to money and power, not informing the public! Aside from the Washington Post, there are no other online news articles from MSM sources I could find! It's mostly fringe and foreign press that have been covering the hearings and the use of drones for targeted assassinations....that include secret rules of engagement that the public isn't allowed to see

jbg · February 10, 2013

If these people cared about their own children as much as "Code Pink" does they'd be restraining the terrorists from using them as human shields.

WIP · February 10, 2013

If these people cared about their own children as much as "Code Pink" does they'd be restraining the terrorists from using them as human shields.

That's a pretty sad way of trying to shift responsibility here! Translation in modern real life would be 'accept your 2nd class or 3rd class status and do not anger your foreign overlords or the dictator they've installed to rule over you. Any resistance will be met with robot bombers from the sky.'

bush_cheney2004 · February 10, 2013

That's a pretty sad way of trying to shift responsibility here! Translation in modern real life would be 'accept your 2nd class or 3rd class status and do not anger your foreign overlords or the dictator they've installed to rule over you. Any resistance will be met with robot bombers from the sky.'

Another translation in modern real life would be the continuation of unelected overlords, crown, confederation, residential schools, etc., etc.

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WIP · February 10, 2013

Salon has a good piece on the Senate hearings cross-examination of John Brennan: How do you explain drone killings? With post-Orwellian newspeak.

The excuse that warhawks in the Obama Administration and Republican Neocon defenders give to justify assassination-by-robot is that America is a t war, and engaged in a war with no borders....therefore, drone bombing and any other killings are justified as killing enemy on the battlefield. A constitutional legal scholar....like Barack Obama, before he sold out for the purposes of personal glory and aggrandizement would have made is that this is all war with absolutely no rules of engagement!

Since the battlefield can be anywhere and everywhere; there is no end game to the war....it's permanent unless all of the "terrorists" are defeated; it's undeclared war....something earlier U.S. Congresses would have refused funding; and the "enemy" now includes U.S. citizens as well as foreign nationals, who have never had charges against them presented before grand juries -- this can be done whether those charged are in custody or not! They can be charged in abstentia....but it would at least be nice to know what the secret rules are now that can make Americans targets for assassination, since they are now admitting to assassinating Anwar al-Awlaki without showing any evidence that he was directly connected in the operations of Al Qaeda groups...as claimed by Brennan using dodgy double-speak in his testimony.

And none of the Senators brought up the issue of Awlaki's 16 year old son, who months before left home to go to Yemen to see his father....who apparently refused because he was already marked for assassination and told to wait with family in the southern part of the country. The son was assassinated along with a number of others in an apparent drone strike that has never been acknowledged by any officials in the U.S. Government! And yet none of the Senators asked about the son or the reasons why he was killed.

Previously, Chris Hedges - former N.Y. Times foreign correspondent challenged NDAA legislation in court (google Hedges vs. Obama for some details if needed) asking the simple question:'what in the NDAA language would prevent him...a sharp critic of much of U.S. foreign policy and someone who has met with many organizations in the Middle East and Africa that are now listed as terrorist groups....from being scooped up and indefinitely detained somewhere as an enemy of the state! So, a portion of the NDAA was struck down in a N.Y. court, but is likely to resurface under another disguise.

What's sad is that, except for a handful of critics who have to turn to foreign media or fringe media in the U.S., there is no interest in mainstream media or mainstream politics in the U.S. to alert the public as to how far there civil rights have been compromised under the Bush and Obama Administrations. They have almost all their ducks in a row now to use legal authority and military force if needed, to shred any constitutional guarantees for private citizens and throw them in a jail cell (anywhere in the world) without trial for as long as they feel like.

waldo · February 10, 2013

Another translation in modern real life would be the continuation of unelected overlords, crown, confederation, residential schools, etc., etc.

again with the 'residential schools'... perhaps some wag should see your reference and raise you another one, say... the U.S. Government policies and actions that contributed directly to the annihilation of the American Indian, to forced western relocation, to the destruction of Native-American communities and culture, to involuntary sterilization of Native-American women, to the ongoing 'ill treatment' of Native-Americans, etc., etc., etc..

bush_cheney2004 · February 10, 2013

...What's sad is that, except for a handful of critics who have to turn to foreign media or fringe media in the U.S., there is no interest in mainstream media or mainstream politics in the U.S. to alert the public as to how far there civil rights have been compromised under the Bush and Obama Administrations. They have almost all their ducks in a row now to use legal authority and military force if needed, to shred any constitutional guarantees for private citizens and throw them in a jail cell (anywhere in the world) without trial for as long as they feel like.

Yep...just like Lincoln and FDR during time of war. Nothing unusual about that. Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow (U.S. citizens) were ambushed and killed in 1934, and the government didn't need no steenkin' drones. I saw their car in museum and lost count of the number of bullet holes.

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bush_cheney2004 · February 10, 2013

again with the 'residential schools'...

A bit sensitive, eh ? Your added U.S. reference is welcomed, as it only confirms the continuity of such behaviour towards the locals when deemed "necessary" by the "overlords". How is that "Idle No More" thing going ?

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waldo · February 10, 2013

A bit sensitive, eh ?

are you sensitive to being called on your repeated, over and over again, ad nauseum, references to residential schools? Are you sensitive to the comparative relative degree distinction between residential schools and, "the U.S. Government policies and actions that contributed directly to the annihilation of the American Indian, to forced western relocation, to the destruction of Native-American communities and culture, to involuntary sterilization of Native-American women, to the ongoing 'ill treatment' of Native-Americans, etc., etc., etc..."?

bush_cheney2004 · February 10, 2013

are you sensitive to being called on your repeated, over and over again, ad nauseum, references to residential schools? Are you sensitive to the comparative relative degree distinction between residential schools

No I am not, which is why you will always come out on the losing end of the 'moral' hissy fits. I will use such references over and over and over again because they are historical fact. U.S. history for such things is much better documented than in Canada...I wonder why ?

waldo · February 10, 2013

No I am not, which is why you will always come out on the losing end of the 'moral' hissy fits. I will use such references over and over and over again because they are historical fact. U.S. history for such things is much better documented than in Canada...I wonder why ?

moral hissy fit presumes you yourself subscribe to your use of residential schools as a morality measure. As always, your proclaimed historical fact is a most one-way, self-serving testament to your own inward-looking avoidance. In a pissing match of which country treated it's native aboriginals the worst... you sir, you and your (claimed) country hold the worst-treating, morality measuring, trump card. USA! USA! USA!

bush_cheney2004 · February 10, 2013

.... you sir, you and your (claimed) country hold the worst-treating, morality measuring, trump card. USA! USA! USA!

Thank you....we even make movies about it and sell tickets, win Oscars, and sell content to media starved Canadians with a watered down version of Netflix. Did I ever mention what we did/do with the uranium from Canada ?

waldo · February 10, 2013

Thank you....we even make movies about it and sell tickets, win Oscars, and sell content to media starved Canadians with a watered down version of Netflix.

and 'we' attempt/presume to offer restitution for residential school treatment. You incessantly make reference to residential schools as just another expression of your own personal (country extended) insecurity and confidence lacking.