jbg Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) A little-noticed but highly dangerous problem has been developing for at least five months or so, probably longer. Both cities and rural areas from Washington DC to Kittery, Maine, from New York City to the Golden Gate, and even in Canada from St. John Newfoundland to Prince Rupert British Columbia have reported shortening hours of daylight. Already, daylight has been wiped out in places as remote from each other as Spitzbergen to Alert, Nunavut to Barrow Alaska. Just as an example, in New York City we have dropped from over 15 hours of daylight to just over 9 hours in recent months. An effort was made back in early November to stop the trend. This has worked for the mornings, temporarily but been counterproductive at night. At the very least,Barack Obama and either the Queen or PM Harper should commission a joint study, perhaps an international Royal Commission, to investigate to see if the problem can be solved. Or perhaps get the U.N. involved. I personally suspect that humans have been wrecking the earth with impunity and now we're paying. Edited December 23, 2012 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest Manny Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 What do you mean, shortened hours of daylight. Actual hours of daylight are defined by the rotation and tilt of the Earth on its axis. This follows its normal pattern. Are you talking about reduced daylight due to cloud cover? Or is this another mocking, tongue in cheek jbg thread... Quote
jbg Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Posted December 23, 2012 Or is this another mocking, tongue in cheek jbg thread... No.Industrial activity and tailpipe emissions have caused an alarming loss of daylight recently, and temperatures have dropped sharply. I'm scared. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest Manny Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 No. Industrial activity and tailpipe emissions have caused an alarming loss of daylight recently, and temperatures have dropped sharply. I'm scared. So now you're scared it's getting too cold huh? I'm sorry but it's really hard to tell with you anymore, jbg. You've just gotten to that point now Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 Exactly. I'm fairly sure this is supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek humourous (?) post but since the content of this post ignores the idea that scientific ideas are supported by debatable and provable evidence the humour falls flat, and it goes from being a poignant witty observation to an obtuse joke on the verge of a troll. I don't think that a thread like this can go anywhere good - unless we're planning to rehash the entire topic of the validity of the science in climate change from the beginning... again. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Guest Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 I think this new phenomonon could help with AGW. I'm not sure how accurate the science is anyway. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 It's just a dull joke. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Guest Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 It's colder where I am right now. There's no denying it. And darker too. Quote
jbg Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Posted December 23, 2012 Exactly. I'm fairly sure this is supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek humourous (?) post but since the content of this post ignores the idea that scientific ideas are supported by debatable and provable evidence the humour falls flat, and it goes from being a poignant witty observation to an obtuse joke on the verge of a troll.You know me better than that by now. You and I agree on little, but I am a serious poster. Granted, this post was affected by maybe a bit too much egg nog. I don't think that a thread like this can go anywhere good - unless we're planning to rehash the entire topic of the validity of the science in climate change from the beginning... again. I think it needs to be discussed, again. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Michael Hardner Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 Why is that, because we're completing another year if record warmth? At what level of warming will we be able to stop arguing that warming is happening? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 At what level of warming will we be able to stop arguing that warming is happening? Who's arguing about warming ? I thought we were arguing about what to do about it. Frankly, I like tanning in January. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
MiddleClassCentrist Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 This was already done on the daily show making fun of climate change deniers basing a single snow storm as proof against warming climate. Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
Michael Hardner Posted December 23, 2012 Report Posted December 23, 2012 Who's arguing about warming ? I thought we were arguing about what to do about it. Frankly, I like tanning in January. Are we ? I hope we are at that point. Is anybody here still in denial of warming itself? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
dre Posted December 24, 2012 Report Posted December 24, 2012 What do you mean, shortened hours of daylight. Actual hours of daylight are defined by the rotation and tilt of the Earth on its axis. This follows its normal pattern. Are you talking about reduced daylight due to cloud cover? Or is this another mocking, tongue in cheek jbg thread... Dont try to reason with it... Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Guest Manny Posted December 24, 2012 Report Posted December 24, 2012 Still it does seem darker than usual, doesn't it. Quote
Guest Posted December 24, 2012 Report Posted December 24, 2012 Earlier in the day, too, I notice. Except for the last couple of days... Quote
jbg Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Posted December 25, 2012 I noticed that yesterday wasn't quite as bad as a few days ago. Maybe my idea of a Royal Commission or U.N. intervention is working. The U.N. seems to jump on problems fast. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 They must think it's Israel's fault. Quote
jbg Posted December 25, 2012 Author Report Posted December 25, 2012 They must think it's Israel's fault. The U.N. is highly efficient and productive on other issues as well. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Today, it was pitch black around 5:00 p.m., give or take. Not 5 months ago, that happened around 9:00 p.m., or 8:00 p.m. adjusted for time change. It first started getting steadily darker, and then colder. At the rate we're going, and probably because of human activity, we will have 24/7 darkness and a climate not unlike Franklin Island. We need some drastic action, maybe IPCC involvement. Help me, I'm scared. Edited November 22, 2013 by Charles Anthony thread merged Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest Posted November 22, 2013 Report Posted November 22, 2013 Send me some money. If you send me enough, I should be able to figure out way to reverse this. It'll probably only take me a few months. Quote
waldo Posted November 22, 2013 Report Posted November 22, 2013 Help me, I'm scared. I hereby award you an attaboy for your recycling efforts! Think green, hey! Quote
jbg Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Posted November 22, 2013 I hereby award you an attaboy for your recycling efforts! Think green, hey! I get worried at some point around this time most years. Maybe it's unfounded. But maybe others also panic about cyclical matters. Also, do you have anything better to do than memorize everyone's posts? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
waldo Posted November 22, 2013 Report Posted November 22, 2013 Also, do you have anything better to do than memorize everyone's posts? I simply offered you a genuine expression acknowledging your greenish recycling effort. The last time you mentioned how scared you were in this same regard, almost a year ago now, another MLW member suggested your prior thread initiation bordered on a trollish attempt at humour... or science denial. You protested your seriousness but suggested your post might have been influenced by eggnog. your expressed seriousness warrants a serious consideration/response. I believe you're simply dealing with a SAD condition... perhaps you just need a HappyLight! The waldo is here for you. Quote
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