GostHacked Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 You know what is currently better than an F-35? Everything. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 You know what is currently better than an F-35? Everything. It just seems to me that when you take a close look at that airplane and start counting the number of engines it doesn't take long before you realize it's at least one short. I've flown a fair bit over the arctic on one engine, didn't like it. So I couldn't ask others to do it. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Others will stand in line to fly the F-35, so please step aside. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Others will stand in line to fly the F-35, so please step aside. Check the orders. They seem to be (and I must apologize for my use of metaphor) dropping like flies. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Check the orders. They seem to be (and I must apologize for my use of metaphor) dropping like flies. Over 100 built and delivered to date with lots more in the pipeline. Canada only built five Avro Arrows...right ? And they had TWO engines! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Over 100 built and delivered to date with lots more in the pipeline. Canada only built five Avro Arrows...right ? And they had TWO engines! Unfortunately we had a dim witted right wing PM who gutted the Avro. All our experts went south and that's why Canadians have run most of the aerospace industry in the US. Boeing, JPL, NASA, etc. Quote
Wilber Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Britain's two new carriers are designed to operated VSTOL aircraft only, which means the F-35. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Unfortunately we had a dim witted right wing PM who gutted the Avro. All our experts went south and that's why Canadians have run most of the aerospace industry in the US. Boeing, JPL, NASA, etc. Sounds like lame excuses to me....today more Canadians build parts for F-35 subcontracts, and it only has ONE ENGINE. So much for that theory. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 We don't have carriers here in Canada. We do have ample space for runways. So let's not buy a hugely expensive "turkey" that doesn't really do anything well at great cost. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 We don't have carriers here in Canada. We do have ample space for runways. So let's not buy a hugely expensive "turkey" that doesn't really do anything well at great cost. Better figure out helicopters (rotary winged aircraft) first....then maybe some fancy "jets". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Sounds like lame excuses to me....today more Canadians build parts for F-35 subcontracts, and it only has ONE ENGINE. So much for that theory. Oh we'll happily take your money to help you build the turkey. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Better figure out helicopters (rotary winged aircraft) first....then maybe some fancy "jets". That's what I was doing in afghanistan. Showing you guys about helicopters. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Oh we'll happily take your money to help you build the turkey. If you want to call Canada's new CF-35s "turkeys"...that's your business. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 That's what I was doing in afghanistan. Showing you guys about helicopters. I doubt that...you have zero credibility after being clueless about CF-18's bombing Iraq in 1991. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 If you want to call Canada's new CF-35s "turkeys"...that's your business. "Turkeys" wasn't my term. It was used in a documentary some time back which revealed all the problems this ac has. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 If you want to call Canada's new CF-35s "turkeys"...that's your business. And we don't have any new f35's. Contract cancelled in case you didn't hear. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 "Turkeys" wasn't my term. It was used in a documentary some time back which revealed all the problems this ac has. No matter....F/A-18s had problems too...now you love them to death. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 And we don't have any new f35's. Contract cancelled in case you didn't hear. You will....just wait and see. Canada will buy the F-35. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 No matter....F/A-18s had problems too...now you love them to death. They work very well, upgrade training for both mechanics and pilots is easy, and we have a guaranteed price per unit instead of this wildly wavering price tag that LockMart couldn't ever seem to get a handle on. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 They work very well, upgrade training for both mechanics and pilots is easy, and we have a guaranteed price per unit instead of this wildly wavering price tag that LockMart couldn't ever seem to get a handle on. They are obsolete....maybe the Americans will sell you their scrap from Davis-Monthan AFB for spare parts. Oh wait...they already do that. Super Hornets are a different aircraft. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 They are obsolete....maybe the Americans will sell you their scrap from Davis-Monthan AFB for spare parts. Oh wait...they already do that. Super Hornets are a different aircraft. They are different. That's why we will buy them. Proven equipment, just updated. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 They are different. That's why we will buy them. Proven equipment, just updated. Nope....Canada will manage to dither that away too....forcing the remaining F-35 choice. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Nope....Canada will manage to dither that away too....forcing the remaining F-35 choice. Already cancelled. Quote
Wilber Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 We don't have carriers here in Canada. We do have ample space for runways. So let's not buy a hugely expensive "turkey" that doesn't really do anything well at great cost. Navy's don't seem to have a problem flying single engine AC over oceans. What makes the arctic so different? There is no such thing as a cheap fighter aircraft that is worth having. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
GostHacked Posted March 8, 2014 Report Posted March 8, 2014 Unfortunately we had a dim witted right wing PM who gutted the Avro. All our experts went south and that's why Canadians have run most of the aerospace industry in the US. Boeing, JPL, NASA, etc. US officials convinced Canada to abandon the Avro project because of missile technology was touted to make fighter aircraft obsolete. Perhaps it was a ploy from the US to kill a plane they knew would give them a run for their money. Can't have anyone else entering the arms industry. It was a stupid move and if we had gone through Avro would be a household name for aircraft. The Avro Arrow was a fantastic plane, and their next generation of plane would be even better. A total waste. Quote
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