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No - the airforce is set on getting the F-35, which has no such capability. In fact, though it has a massive range on internal fuel, the F-35 can currently carry nothing for external fuel.

According to my link, the F-35 has 1,100 km range - hardly "massive" in Canada.

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The Government of Canada will represent Quebec at the WTO......Dassault is partly owned by Airbus, and both the American and French Governments, as said, have much more to loose in regional airline sales then a small fighter order to Canada.

I think you're really reaching here.

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According to my link, the F-35 has 1,100 km range - hardly "massive" in Canada.

To put that in perspective though, that's nearly double what the CF-18 can currently do on internal fuel. Also, if the F-35 is making only a 1 way trip (there's fuel somewhere at the other end) you can double that.

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Explain.

Fuel is heavy, and external tanks induce drag......hence your Super Hornet/Rafale with buddy stores will take off, refuel other aircraft, then land and refuel.........

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According to my link, the F-35 has 1,100 km range - hardly "massive" in Canada.

Nearly 1/3 rd more range on internal fuel than the Gripen NG with drop tanks.

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Can anybody point to the actual "requirements" for a replacement Canadian "jet" ? Or is that a big secret that can morph depending on the politics of the ruling government ?

The new Government hasn't laid them out yet.

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I think you're really reaching here.

Not at all, as Embraer has already taken Bombardier/GoC to court, and all three companies (Embraer/Airbus/Boeing) will take Bombardier/Quebec/Canada to the WTO yet again........Airbus and Boeing have far deeper pockets than Embraer, which its previous battle lasted over 5 years.

Do you think Airbus and Boeing will offer attractive off-sets to a Government they are in court with? :rolleyes:

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Fuel is heavy, and external tanks induce drag......hence your Super Hornet/Rafale with buddy stores will take off, refuel other aircraft, then land and refuel.........

That would still be useful in many cases. A Super Hornet trio could be deployed to a FOB, where 1 could load with tanks for the duration of a mission.

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Nearly 1/3 rd more range on internal fuel than the Gripen NG with drop tanks.

That's different from the chart in the link I provided. It says the Gripen has a 1,300 km range with a 290 gal centreline tank. And a 4,000 km+ ferry range with external tanks.

Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists.

- Noam Chomsky

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

- Upton Sinclair

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To put that in perspective though, that's nearly double what the CF-18 can currently do on internal fuel. Also, if the F-35 is making only a 1 way trip (there's fuel somewhere at the other end) you can double that.

So, we need a base in the Arctic Ocean? :)

Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists.

- Noam Chomsky

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

- Upton Sinclair

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That would still be useful in many cases. A Super Hornet trio could be deployed to a FOB, where 1 could load with tanks for the duration of a mission.

Is your Super Hornet loaded with buddy tanks fueled by magic?

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Can anybody point to the actual "requirements" for a replacement Canadian "jet" ? Or is that a big secret that can morph depending on the politics of the ruling government ?

So far it is, anything but the F-35.

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Well they will change with this Government.......

Well, at least they might follow through. The Conservatives closed the Secretariat altogether.

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So, we need a base in the Arctic Ocean? :)

We have forward operating bases at Inuvik, Iqaluit, and Goose Bay. There may be more that I'm forgetting.

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Not well they are in court.

Of course they will. The two are not mutually exclusive. Companies are involved in lawsuits and complete other transactions at the same time often.

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So far it is, anything but the F-35.

We'll have to wait and see what they come up with. It's not unreasonable to discount first strike capable aircraft, as Canada has never done that and never will.

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