Hudson Jones Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Posted November 22, 2012 Because it's a point of international law that nations are allowed to defend themselves when attacked. So you agree with following international law and will condemn those who will not? Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Argus Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 Ya so if kids threaten you with stones, drive directly toward them fast enough to flip them onto the windshield when you hit them. Mhmm... It looked to me like he tried to drive around them. But whatever. Anyone starts throwing stones at me in my car I'll run over their heads if need be, and without a shred of remorse. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 ...You should be demonized for wanting to justify the killing of Palestinians by trying to lay the blame on someone other than those who pull the triggers. No, you should be praised for logically supporting the lawful actions by a sovereign state to eradicate terrorists. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Merlin Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 War is terrible with loses on both sides. Hamas cannot pick a fight and use human shields then cry foul when Arabs die. They created this situation and must accept the consequences of their actions. Quote
Bryan Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 War is terrible with loses on both sides. Hamas cannot pick a fight and use human shields then cry foul when Arabs die. They created this situation and must accept the consequences of their actions. War is terrible with loses on both sides. Israel cannot pick a fight and use human shields then cry foul when Jews die. They created this situation and must accept the consequences of their actions. Quote
Merlin Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 War is terrible with loses on both sides. Israel cannot pick a fight and use human shields then cry foul when Jews die. They created this situation and must accept the consequences of their actions. Israel doesn't use human shields whereas Hamas launches attacks from residential areas maximizing civilian casualties and trying to maximize pity. It's quite appalling that people are taking the side of a terrorist org. The hatred for Israel and Jews is so high in Canada and around the world it would seem. War is terrible, honestly it is. Both sides suffer loses but only one side is using human shields and only one side is targeting civilians and that side is Hamas. Anyone siding with Hamas is siding with terrorism. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Posted November 22, 2012 I love Merlin. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Merlin Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 I love Merlin. Thank you. I just try to inform people on the truth. I'm happy you like my approach. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 It looked to me like he tried to drive around them. But whatever. Anyone starts throwing stones at me in my car I'll run over their heads if need be, and without a shred of remorse. Especially "stones" big enough to break through your windshield - and you have a child in the car. I imagine the swarm of photographers didn't help any, as the driver had to avoid hitting them, too. I have to wonder at the mindset of someone who would run directly into the path of a moving car - must be of the "martyr" mindset. What makes the whole situation ever worse, though, is the false way it was presented in the media. How anyone can defend that is beyond me. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) It's not like we're basing our judgement of the situation on one or two photos. It sure looks as if you're trying to, with the "visual effects" you posted and the mention of your newborn baby. It makes one wonder about the genuineness of your presentation. In other words, it comes across more as propaganda than a discussion, just like the fake/recycled photos. We're basing it on local and international reporters. Reports and analysis from human rights organizations. Right. Because they're above reproach, right? In case you truly believe that, and somehow missed it, I've posted evidence that would refute that mindset. Those, plus photos, videos, personal accounts and other sources all help us shape our views of the event. They are most definitely helping me shape my views of the event. I am wondering how someone posting a fake photo changes what the Gazans experienced. If they have to resort to photos of Syrians to show what Gazans have experienced - well, you figure it out. You should be demonized for wanting to justify the killing of Palestinians by trying to lay the blame on someone other than those who pull the triggers. Perhaps you are truly, unbelievably unaware of it, but even in a court of law, people other than those who "pull the trigger" are held accountable. You could start educating yourself by learning about criminal endangerment - knowingly engaging in conduct that creates a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury to another. Edited November 22, 2012 by American Woman Quote
jacee Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 When it gets to "My baby's deader than your baby", it's time to call a truce, call the adults to the table to move beyond childish 'tit for tat' ... Unfortunately there don't seem to be any real adults among the powers that be on either side. The way forward will come from the Israeli and Palestinian people, not the military, not the governments, and certainly not from armchair 'analysts' like us thousands of miles and cultures away. How can two peoples of ancient enmity live peacefully side by side and intermingled? Only by choice. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 Unfortunately there don't seem to be any real adults among the powers that be on either side. You do realize that it's the "powers that be" that negotiated the truce, right? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 You do realize that it's the "powers that be" that negotiated the truce, right? Internet Jesus descends from upon high and dispenses wisdom of the ages to the mere mortals. Dead Rabbits: When it gets to "My baby's deader than your baby", it's time to call a truce, call the adults to the table to move beyond childish 'tit for tat' ... I love how when caught in a lie, some like to make sure everyone is painted with the same blood splatters. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 Yeah...a BBC reporter that figured bringing the kids to the war was a good idea. Apparently not. We can ignore the fact that this BBC reporter actually lives in Gaza. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 We can ignore the fact that this BBC reporter actually lives in Gaza. His choice. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 His choice. So your claim of 'bringing the children to the war' is asinine at best. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 So your claim of 'bringing the children to the war' is asinine at best. Do you plan on having children in Gaza willingly? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 Do you plan on having children in Gaza willingly? Another asinine statement. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 Another asinine statement. Again...his choice no matter how much you dislike me personally. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 Again...his choice no matter how much you dislike me personally. I don't dislike you, nor like you, you just exist as far as I am concerned, nothing to get upset about. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) I don't dislike you, nor like you, you just exist as far as I am concerned, nothing to get upset about. That's great. BBC doesn't insist reporters take up personal residence at their news stories. That he was willing to be a pawn for Hamas's propaganda was also noted. As well, since Hamas is so keen on shooting heavy weapons from amongst civilians, how do YOU know his poor baby wasn't killed by one of Hamas's weapons dumps exploding? Edited November 22, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 That's great. BBC doesn't insist reporters take up personal residence at their news stories. I am sure you meant 'as' and not 'at'. Proper grammar is key if you want to help clarify your arguments. That he was willing to be a pawn for Hamas's propaganda was also noted. As well, since Hamas is so keen on shooting heavy weapons from amongst civilians, how do YOU know his poor baby wasn't killed by one of Hamas's weapons dumps exploding? So a man living in Gaza is contracted/hired by the BBC to report from within Gaza. Since he lives there, his children live there. Who would have thought! Seems like you are giving him crap just for living in Gaza where not only his son, but his sister in law was killed as well. According to some articles, his residence was not in any of the areas where the rockets were being fired from. And from the pictures there is a very large hole in the roof. Unless the Qassam rockets are that powerful, it would be safe to say both sides are playing this incident. I really wanted to see a nice ground war where Israel flattens Gaza. Maybe a nice full out all cards in final battle to the death will resolve this conflict that has been going on longer than I have been alive. Let's get it ON!!!!! WOOO!!!! I want war porn, and I want it now! Quote
Guest American Woman Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) I really wanted to see a nice ground war where Israel flattens Gaza. Maybe a nice full out all cards in final battle to the death will resolve this conflict that has been going on longer than I have been alive. Since you seem fond of repeating the "longer than I have been alive" mantra, here's a tip - it's not about you, so what does that have to do with anything? Furthermore, the conflict has been going on longer than most of us here on the board have been alive. So what's your point? But for the record, you're hardly in the position to be claiming anyone else's comments are "asinine" in light of what you posted here about what you "really want to see." Disgusting. Let's get it ON!!!!! WOOO!!!! I want war porn, and I want it now! I have to wonder in what mind a comment like this is any less disgusting than anything Mr. Canada has had to say. Edited November 22, 2012 by American Woman Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 I am sure you meant 'as' and not 'at'. Proper grammar is key if you want to help clarify your arguments. So a man living in Gaza is contracted/hired by the BBC to report from within Gaza. Since he lives there, his children live there. Who would have thought! Seems like you are giving him crap just for living in Gaza where not only his son, but his sister in law was killed as well. According to some articles, his residence was not in any of the areas where the rockets were being fired from. And from the pictures there is a very large hole in the roof. Unless the Qassam rockets are that powerful, it would be safe to say both sides are playing this incident. I really wanted to see a nice ground war where Israel flattens Gaza. Maybe a nice full out all cards in final battle to the death will resolve this conflict that has been going on longer than I have been alive. Let's get it ON!!!!! WOOO!!!! I want war porn, and I want it now! You're one sick puppy, GH. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Hudson Jones Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Posted November 22, 2012 You do realize that it's the "powers that be" that negotiated the truce, right? Also it was the same people who went into it. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
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