bush_cheney2004 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Auschwitz was not bombed. But Germany sure was. WW2 Germany...meet Gaza. Gaza...meet WW2 Germany. Expect the same fate. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 You like the collection of bodies photo? I have better photos....lots more bodies. Wanna buy some? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 But Germany sure was. WW2 Germany...meet Gaza. Gaza...meet WW2 Germany. Expect the same fate. I made the comparison to Auschwitz. This is another one of your failed attempts at trying to dismiss being called on your immorality. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Guest Derek L Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 I dont remember saying that. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=21876&st=420 DoP said: What part of Gaza have the Israelis stolen? You responded: They have stolen its international waters for one thing, and the right to control its borders. As such: How have the Israelis “stolen” the Gaza-Egyptian border? Clearly Israel doesn't control that border correct? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 I made the comparison to Auschwitz. This is another one of your failed attempts at trying to dismiss being called on your immorality. I know you did, so I turned it against your passion for protecting internationally recognized terrorists. Yep, the Allies killed civilians during WW2...lots of 'em...in pursuit of a larger, more important goal. So "immoral"......... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 A Palestinian kid holding his brother, after their parents were killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Guest American Woman Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Regarding Hudson's many photos coming from Palestine, I can't help but wonder how many are staged, as this incident appears to be - even as as it was presented by the Guardian in their Eyewitness Series as: Palestinian youth run down - Photographs from the Guardian Eyewitness series - and accompanied by this text (emphasis mine): The photographer, Ilia Yefimovich, is in the right place at the right time and captures this dramatic scene using a large depth of field and fast shutter speed. http://www.guardian....stinian-clashes Here it's being presented as a Jewish settler deliberately running over the children after they attended prayers: Three Palestinian children were wounded Friday in the Silwan suburb of Jerusalem when a Jewish settler deliberately ran then over. Local sources in Jerusalem told PIC that the so called leader of settlers in the Silwan suburb ran the children over as they came out of the mosque after performing their Friday prayers, http://abna.ir/data....ang=3&id=208031 Here the same photo is being presented as a six year old being deliberately run over, no mention of rocks (emphasis mine): http://group194.net/...lestinian A six-year-old Palestinian child was rushed to hospital on Friday after a Jewish settler ran over him with his car near a Ramallah village. Jewish settlers on more than one occasion deliberately run over Palestinians in the bypass roads in the West Bank due to reckless driving and absolute disregard for the safety of Palestinian pedestrians Here is a video showing the incident from beginning to end: Another article briefly touches on the danger of such a situation: Jewish settlers from Beit Hagai settlement, south of Al-Khalil, threw rocks at a Palestinian car a couple of days ago injuring its driver and breaking one of his ribs after his car turned on its side as a result of the attack. http://occupiedpales...brahimi-mosque/ Yet the driver of the car in the incident I am highlighting (note the damage to his back windshield), who had his young son with him, is the one being criticized and accused of deliberately running over the kids - furthermore, making it sound as if that's what he had set out to do. Edited November 21, 2012 by American Woman Quote
jacee Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Ya so if kids threaten you with stones, drive directly toward them fast enough to flip them onto the windshield when you hit them. Mhmm... Quote
Guest American Woman Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Ya so if kids threaten you with stones, drive directly toward them fast enough to flip them onto the windshield when you hit them. Mhmm... Is there something wrong with your vision?? They weren't "threatening" him with "stones;" they were throwing the rocks directly at him/his car. Did you see the damage said "stones" caused?? As for "driving directly toward them," he was surrounded by them. How could he do anything but drive directly toward them, even as he was swerving? Was he supposed to stop on a dime - and risk his life and that of his child? Obviously the "kids" throwing the "stones" were in the middle of the street. They ran towards him, directly into his path. But thanks for your comments - it just confirms that some will defend anything regarding Palestine, no matter how skewed or dishonest. It just confirms where you are coming from. In other words, you proved my point. So again, thank you for that. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 You simply can't trust 'Palestinian sources'. But, the Arabs did score a point or two in the last 24 hrs, putting a bomb on a Tel Aviv city bus, injuring civilians in the process. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/11/21/bomb-blast-tears-through-tel-aviv-bus-as-clinton-pushes-peace-talks/ Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 You simply can't trust 'Palestinian sources'. But, the Arabs did score a point or two in the last 24 hrs, putting a bomb on a Tel Aviv city bus, injuring civilians in the process. http://news.national...es-peace-talks/ Perhaps that will add validity to Israel acting in "self defense" in some's eyes? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Perhaps that will add validity to Israel acting in "self defense" in some's eyes? Right...and the Arab-Israeli Wars are all about water. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 Regarding Hudson's many photos coming from Palestine, I can't help but wonder how many are staged, Yes. That's right American Woman. The Palestinians put their children in the way of bombs on purpose, then after they were killed, they put the bodies together... and staged the whole thing? You can't hep but wonder what is staged exactly about the photos? Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Yes. That's right American Woman. The Palestinians put their children in the way of bombs on purpose, then after they were killed, they put the bodies together... and staged the whole thing? You can't hep but wonder what is staged exactly about the photos? Pallywood has destroyed any credibility from Palestinian sources. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Here is more "staging" by Palestinians, dressed up zealot settlers, harassing Palestinians and talking about how they will take more of their land and homes. They even have Arab kids, pretending to be settler kids, pretending to be throwing rocks at Palestinians. All staged. I can see why American Woman can't help but to think that this is all staged. Pallywood at work again: Edited November 21, 2012 by Hudson Jones Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Guest American Woman Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Pallywood has destroyed any credibility from Palestinian sources. Exactly. In this day and age, anyone with the right knowledge can stage any photo that they choose to. It's too bad that their credibility has been shot, but that's the way of I feel as if the incident I highlighted speaks for how badly something can be misrepresented - to the point of making an innocent victim look guilty of something horrific. Edited November 21, 2012 by American Woman Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 It might or might not be true. Do you see the problem with faking stories? http://www.storyarts.org/library/aesops/stories/boy.html Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Exactly. In this day and age, anyone with the right knowledge can stage any photo that they choose to. It's too bad that their credibility has been shot, but that's the way of I feel as if the incident I highlighted speaks for how badly something can be misrepresented - to the point of making an innocent victim look guilty of something horrific. One of the biggest fakeries was when it was claimed Israel shelled a family on the beach with heavy artillery. Some unfortunate member had stepped on a mine but the need to blame Israel led to an incredible tale that was not supported by evidence. Hamas members can be seen on the 'official film' busy knocking over lawn chairs. Meanwhile, a 155mm shell leaves a crater about 4' across and 2' deep and blow trees over at a distance. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 Yep, precisely. Those are all fake bodies ripped apart and fake homes turned into rubble by fake Israeli bombs. Israel is lucky to have you two setting everyone straight and exposing Pallywood. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Yep, precisely. Those are all fake bodies ripped apart and fake homes turned into rubble by fake Israeli bombs. Israel is lucky to have you two setting everyone straight and exposing Pallywood. For all you know, those bodies are from one of Hamas's mortars exploding while shooting it off from a residential area. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Israel is lucky to have you two setting everyone straight and exposing Pallywood. Palestine isn't so lucky to have the ilk that misrepresents incidents and totally makes things up. That the Hudsons/buds/jacees/et al make excuses for it rather than seeing it for what it is and condemning it doesn't help - and makes me much less likely to take what you post as reality. Edited November 21, 2012 by American Woman Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Palestine isn't so lucky to have the ilk that misrepresents incidents and totally makes things up. That the Hudsons/buds/jacees/ Hamas and their supporters are quick with the dead baby photos. I find it rather odd...but it's their war. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Hamas and their supporters are quick with the dead baby photos. I find it rather odd...but it's their war. I too find it odd. When something seems off or not 'quite right,' many times there's a reason for it. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 One of the biggest fakeries was when it was claimed Israel shelled a family on the beach with heavy artillery. Some unfortunate member had stepped on a mine but the need to blame Israel led to an incredible tale that was not supported by evidence. Hamas members can be seen on the 'official film' busy knocking over lawn chairs. Meanwhile, a 155mm shell leaves a crater about 4' across and 2' deep and blow trees over at a distance. Oh yes! The "fakeries". Initially, the IDF apologizes for killing the family, but then they retract the statement after another famous IDF investigation of the IDF reveals that it was a mine! Read more about it here. Hamas is so clever to have planted a mine on the beach, knowing exactly when the IDF was going to shell the beach and then they also timed it perfectly and knew when one of the Palestinians would walk over a mine. Good thing the IDF court was able to get to the bottom of another staged Pallywood production! Thank DogOnPorch for reminding us about these "fakeries". Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) I too find it odd. When something seems off or not 'quite right,' many times there's a reason for it. It makes me think either.... 1. Why didn't you evacuate you and your family to safety? Was something or someone preventing you from leaving the city? Perhaps Hamas men on motorbikes executing 'Israeli spies'? 2. Fake. Hudson: Good thing the IDF court was able to get to the bottom of another staged Pallywood production! Thank DogOnPorch for reminding us about these "fakeries". No crater...no 155mm shell. Pretty simple. Edited November 21, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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