cybercoma Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 SURE !! Have a looky right here Michael! http://www.theglobea...pM!-1726588208/ I will even strip it out for you! The levels of trust are also low for the Canadian Parliament (17 per cent), political parties (10 per cent) and mass media (6 per cent). I will accept your appologies now for calling me an "angry idealogue" Whats with all the name calling in a difference of opinion?? I don't understand these pollsters sometimes. There are serious methodological limitations with online surveys. So much so that the samples cannot be considered random and it's impossible to determine a margin of error. While I would love to think that Harper is really distrusted, the accuracy of this poll's information in Canada and the US needs to be questioned. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 I dont support a few points that Harper stands for... But he has captured what i call the center.. Thats why he has the Majority.. Double point for you - I retract my statement. An ideologue would support Harper no matter what he does. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 While I would love to think that Harper is really distrusted, the accuracy of this poll's information in Canada and the US needs to be questioned. Nice catch. I didn`t see that. Online polling is notoriously inaccurate... however Nate Silver - the new nerd 'it boy' of the moment has shown that it was the online polls that were most accurate in this election. Not all of them - but some of them. Notably Google consumer surveys. It seems everybody uses Google, right ? http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121110/22470521008/maybe-internet-polls-arent-so-bad-after-all.shtml Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
cybercoma Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Nice catch. I didn`t see that. Online polling is notoriously inaccurate... however Nate Silver - the new nerd 'it boy' of the moment has shown that it was the online polls that were most accurate in this election. Not all of them - but some of them. Notably Google consumer surveys. It seems everybody uses Google, right ? http://www.techdirt....after-all.shtml It depends on their methodology. Some online polls can be accurate, but usually their methodology means that the sample isn't random. People in lower SES categories are less likely to vote, so an online poll may be more accurate in assessing voter outcomes simply because they ignore people that aren't likely to vote anyway. Quote
Fletch 27 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Seems this on-line poll is accurate! You cant pick-and-choose your Polls guys... Polls (ALL OF THEM) have shown over and over how poorly they perform... But Harper having 3x the trust over the Canadian Media seems like an "anomoly" that simply can not be overlooked.... and 16% vs 10% for the other parties?? Quote
PIK Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Posted November 13, 2012 Hugo, Hugo, , Lets go hugo. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Topaz Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 I don't mind the CBC and I think more Canadians watch it and besides that ALL network get money from Ottawa. If you don't like it, don't watch it like some Canadains do with SunTV. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Nice catch. I didn`t see that. Online polling is notoriously inaccurate... however Nate Silver - the new nerd 'it boy' of the moment has shown that it was the online polls that were most accurate in this election. Not all of them - but some of them. Notably Google consumer surveys. It seems everybody uses Google, right ? http://www.techdirt....after-all.shtml Check out Google's methodology. http://www.google.co...=2&filter=&rw=1 They go to great lengths to account for sampling bias, which gives their online surveys more strength than others that aren't as systematic. The measurement is only as good as the tape-measure. Edited November 13, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
CPCFTW Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 I don't mind the CBC and I think more Canadians watch it and besides that ALL network get money from Ottawa. If you don't like it, don't watch it like some Canadains do with SunTV. Didn't you just start a thread asking where $5 billion was spent? Well $1 billion is spent on the CBC.. Keep thinking about those entitlements that you love and you'll figure out where the rest was spent. Quote
WIP Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Where did this meme come from - is Sun Media running some BS to eliminate public broadcasting now? Sure, shut down the CBC and TVO here in Ontario, and let's end up in the same media mess the U.S. is in where all broadcasting aside from the fringes is run by corporate sponsors. I could agree with reforming the CBC...especially CBC television which runs in some nether world between being a public and a private broadcaster, but not shutting it down, that is just stupidity! Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
guyser Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Where did this meme come from - is Sun Media running some BS to eliminate public broadcasting now? The opening post was verbatim snipped from the Sun newspaper. Sun media better hope to eliminate competition, its the only way they will ever survive, they are drowning in red ink (SNN) and have less eyeballs watching them than a blind mans convention. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Even Kevin O'Leary has been ripping on Sun News for being a utter failure as a business. Granted he works for CBC, but he's hardly a liberal shill. Quote
CPCFTW Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Who cares about Sun News? This thread is about CBC... A PUBLIC broadcaster. You lefties are so clueless that you think you can use Sun news as a red herring to distract from the CBC propaganda machine. If so few people watch Sun News then why do you keep bringing it up? Odds are most here complaining about CBC don't watch Sun news (I don't). Quote
guyser Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Who cares about Sun News? This thread is about CBC The opening post was verbatim what was printed in the Sun this morning, Its all driven by the Sun, they dont like competition demolishing them at the ratings table. Quote
Sleipnir Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 So, some people didn't like that story. ISn't it an overreaction to say the CBC should shut down ? Yes, often when people see an article they don't like on CBC site - they scream for it to be shut down. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Topaz Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 At least, were the CBC, Canadians see where their money is being spent. As I said before suntv, global,ctv, they all get government money. Quote
Fletch 27 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 Topaz... To the tune of over a billion dollars? Leave you leftist angel wings at the door please... Quote
The_Squid Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 they skipped reporting a cenotaph getting vandalized CBC did report on it. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/11/12/toronto-war-memorial-vandalized.html The CBC said the video was an exclusive. But it actually wasn’t. Because the CBC called the military police to come watch the video An "exclusive" is when other news organizations haven't reported on a story. Shouldn't ezra Levant know what an "exclusive" is? Shoddy reporting from a supposed journalist. Quote
Fletch 27 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) No, ezra reported it first and nailed the CBC to the wall... They were forced to by real investigative reporting. Free and clear of motives. The CBC would not have reported this without Ezra's scoop... Edited November 14, 2012 by Fletch 27 Quote
wyly Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 I support the Middle.. I also support some unions Michael! I do not support the travesties that 2 Unions have commited on Students and taxpayers... OPSEU and the Teachers Union(s). I dont support a few points that Harper stands for... But he has captured what i call the center.. Thats why he has the Majority.. no harper has a majority because of the FPTP electoral system ..an understanding of the simplest sort of math shows 39% of the popular is not capturing any part of the center other the extreme right of center...capturing center would mean the cpc has 60-70% of the popular vote and they are no where close to that... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Guest Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 It doesn't surprise me that the CBC wouldn't report it until forced. However, it also wouldn't surprise me if it was a setup. Then the CBC would report it quick enough. That's probably what they were waiting for. Quote
wyly Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 The opening post was verbatim what was printed in the Sun this morning, Its all driven by the Sun, they dont like competition demolishing them at the ratings table. and Sun now wants to bundled on cable to save their butts.... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Guest Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) no harper has a majority because of the FPTP electoral system ..an understanding of the simplest sort of math shows 39% of the popular is not capturing any part of the center other the extreme right of center...capturing center would mean the cpc has 60-70% of the popular vote and they are no where close to that... An understanding of the simplest sort of math shows that fewer people wanted any of the alternatives. Why would the centre be 60-70% of the vote? It could just be me. Edited November 14, 2012 by bcsapper Quote
Fletch 27 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) Oooooo.... Our crazy democratic system must be broke... Did anyone save the receipt? Where can I return my "democracy"? I sure hope the line is short...... Alot of people seem to be returning their"mulcairs" too..... Go cry in your anti-democratic pool with the rest of the bottom feeding Koi.... Edited November 14, 2012 by Fletch 27 Quote
wyly Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 An understanding of the simplest sort of math shows that fewer people wanted any of the alternatives. ya 60.5% wanted anything BUT! the harper and the cpc. ..math wasn't your best subject was it Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
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