bleeding heart Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 If I wasn't disabled I would go in front of the mosque near my house and eat bacon sandwiches with big signs and a megaphone criticizing Islam during their prayers. If I did it now they would beat me and cut my head off. No, they wouldn't. I don't know why you keep making these claims. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
PIK Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Ironic they fought for the freedom of those women to do so.....doncha think? LOL I don't think mouthy muslim women were on our soldeirs minds when fighting the nazi's and I have spoken to veterns and this behavior by these people is not what they fought for. You can be hilarious at times. lol Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
bleeding heart Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 That's because Mr. Canada Merlin is not being serious. He's playing a character to incite people, like he always has. Actually, yes, I'm pretty sure you're right. When something looks like a crazy caricature, it usually is. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
bleeding heart Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 LOL I don't think mouthy muslim women were on our soldeirs minds when fighting the nazi's and I have spoken to veterns and this behavior by these people is not what they fought for. It is exactly what they fought for, whether they know it or not. (And many vets do know this, of course.) If and when you're fighting for principles of freedom...you don't get to determine the exact parameters of that freedom, and just what people will use it for. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
guyser Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 LOL I don't think mouthy muslim women were on our soldeirs minds when fighting the nazi's Probably not, relevance? Absolutely none! But thanks for the cool story bro. and I have spoken to veterns and this behavior by these people is not what they fought for. Well, not all of them are smart....right? You can be hilarious at times. lol Thank you. It sure beats the alternative such as yourself. Quote
scribblet Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 The Muslim Canadian Congress has denounced it, good for them. I didn't realize that they also said "Canada will burn, praise Allah" http://www.scribd.com/doc/113105509/MCC-statement-denouncing-the-disruption-of-Remembrance-Day-ceremony-by-Muslim-students Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
cybercoma Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 The MCC doesn't speak for Muslims in Canada. This has been discussed elsewhere (note: I mention CMU in that post, but it's actually the Canadian Islamic Congress that is the most credible voice for Muslims in Canada). Many Muslims organizations don't believe in condemning this because they don't feel these people are representative of Islam and suggesting that Muslims need to condemn them is to imply that they are part of the same group. It's like suggesting that all moderate Christian leaders need to stand up and condemn Pat Robertson when he speaks. Most moderates ignore him because they don't recognize him as speaking for them or their beliefs. Same here. Condemning these Muslims gives them credibility and says that they are part of the group, when clearly moderate Muslims certainly should not be expected to take responsibility for them or their actions. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 The MCC doesn't speak for Muslims in Canada. This has been discussed elsewhere (note: I mention CMU in that post, but it's actually the Canadian Islamic Congress that is the most credible voice for Muslims in Canada). Many Muslims organizations don't believe in condemning this because they don't feel these people are representative of Islam and suggesting that Muslims need to condemn them is to imply that they are part of the same group. It's like suggesting that all moderate Christian leaders need to stand up and condemn Pat Robertson when he speaks. Most moderates ignore him because they don't recognize him as speaking for them or their beliefs. Same here. Condemning these Muslims gives them credibility and says that they are part of the group, when clearly moderate Muslims certainly should not be expected to take responsibility for them or their actions. Hmmmm...I wonder why the MCC doesn't apparently speak for Canadian Muslims? Why was there a split in that group again? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Time and place would be nice, however, they decided not to play it that way, as is there right. Bad taste like the Fred Phelps et al. They have that right. And others have the right to hate them for it and wish bad things upon them. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Restricted freedom, eh? All freedoms are restricted. Find me one that isn't. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 The MCC doesn't speak for Muslims in Canada. This has been discussed elsewhere (note: I mention CMU in that post, but it's actually the Canadian Islamic Congress that is the most credible voice for Muslims in Canada). Yes. True. The primary difference, of course, being that the MCC tends to be somewhat progressive, and doesn't hate Jews very much. The Canadian Islamic Congress, on the other hand, remains true to Islams middle eastern origins and cultural values. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
guyser Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 They have that right. And others have the right to hate them for it and wish bad things upon them. Correct, lets hope Pik and Fletch are paying attention ! Quote
Guest Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) They are, of course, hypocrites of the highest order, but they have every right do protest if they want to. Just as the Muslims who line the roads in Royal Wooton Basset (think Highway of Heroes on the 401) to jeer as the dead go by have every right to do that too. I support the right of the Reverend Phelps to his protests, and the right of Linda Gibbons to make hers. (Funny how she's the only one who ends up in jail) Edited November 14, 2012 by bcsapper Quote
Sleipnir Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 Are new immigrants instructed that they are allowed to disrespect out traditions and customs when they come to Canada? That they need not respect us at all? I would like to know that if they are indeed instructed to keep their culture and traditions and crap on ours whenever they want. I noticed you're increasingly targeting people of Middle-Eastern descent in many posts. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Guest Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 I noticed you're increasingly targeting people of Middle-Eastern descent in many posts. Well, they're gonna behead him. Quote
wyly Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 Probably not, relevance? Absolutely none! But thanks for the cool story bro. Well, not all of them are smart....right? Thank you. It sure beats the alternative such as yourself. I recall mr canada voicing extreme right wingnut views he claimed are popular at his legion...ironic my dad a ww2 vet shot at people who held those same views... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
guyser Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 I support the right of the Reverend Phelps to his protests, and the right of Linda Gibbons to make hers. (Funny how she's the only one who ends up in jail) Funny Gibbons never was jailed for protesting huh? She was free to do so,.......except when the court told her to do it somewhere else. Not comparable in the least. Quote
guyser Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 I recall mr canada voicing extreme right wingnut views he claimed are popular at his legion...ironic my dad a ww2 vet shot at people who held those same views... Yes he did. I am pretty sure its Mr C because three times Ive said Hi Mr C and not once has he asked who that is. Of course now he probably will just to seem 'oh my...gosh who could that be?" Its Mr C and I suspect willl get his looming fate dealt soon. Quote
g_bambino Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 Restricted freedom, eh? That's the reality we must deal with in a civilized society. We can't run about doing whatever we want whenever we want wherever we want. Quote
g_bambino Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 That's because Mr. Canada Merlin is not being serious. He's playing a character... Would that be a gnarly, hunched type of character that has a tendency to live under bridges? Quote
wyly Posted November 14, 2012 Report Posted November 14, 2012 That's the reality we must deal with in a civilized society. We can't run about doing whatever we want whenever we want wherever we want. yup... "one man's freedom ends when/where it infringes on anothers man's freedoms"...or something like that, I heard that a long, long time ago in a Uni poli-sci class... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
scribblet Posted November 15, 2012 Report Posted November 15, 2012 Funny Gibbons never was jailed for protesting huh? She was free to do so,.......except when the court told her to do it somewhere else. Not comparable in the least. Linda Gibbons was jailed for around 9 years... Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Guest Posted November 15, 2012 Report Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) Funny Gibbons never was jailed for protesting huh? She was free to do so,.......except when the court told her to do it somewhere else. Not comparable in the least. Of course it's comparable. The only thing that is not comparable is your attitude towards the targets of the two protests Unless you are suggesting that those Muslim protesters should have been jailed for protesting where they protested. Anybody can protest in their living room. Edited November 15, 2012 by bcsapper Quote
Merlin Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Posted November 15, 2012 Inciting a riot is a criminal offence. Quote
guyser Posted November 15, 2012 Report Posted November 15, 2012 Linda Gibbons was jailed for around 9 years... Good for her!Relevance to what this discussion is about please? Quote
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