jacee Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) Just came to my inbox and it won't make the news, so I'm posting it here ... Saturday, Sept. 29, 2012 is a day my cousin will never forget. While he was walking downtown he was stopped by two Regina City Police officers. In their conversation they offered him a ride home. Since we have many Police Officers/RCMP Officers in our family, he didn't think twice about accepting. Instead of a ride home, he was driven out of town, beaten by those two Officers with their batons & left there. By the City Landfill. He wasn't drunk. He wasn't being disorderly. His crime?? Being a young, tattooed Native man. My cousin has never been in trouble & he isn't part of a gang. What those two White Officers didn't see is that he is a human being. He's a student. He's a brother. He's a father. Not being aware of how to handle this situation, all my cousin did was duck & cover his head so the batons wouldn't do too much damage. He didn't think to get the badge numbers, the license plate number of the cruiser or the names of the Officers. I share this with you in hopes that you, the reader, will see the true daily struggle of Native people. That you will continue to fight for justice for all 'marginalized people'....because there simply shouldn't be such a term here in this 'civilized country' The Regina police are branching out to beating up healthy young native men ... going one up on the Saskatoon Police who specialize in older drunk native men and winter freezing deaths on 'starlight tours'. Some police officers are vicious creeps. And the rest of them are creeps who cover for tbem. And we PAY them while they're beating up innocent people! Edited October 5, 2012 by jacee Quote
eyeball Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 This why all police should be required to wear POV cameras, like in England. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Jiblethead Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 This why all police should be required to wear POV cameras, like in England. thats a pretty good idea, not sure how cost effective that would be but it sounds great Quote
Guest Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 It's funny, the Police are one of the few groups where it's perfectly okay to extrapolate the actions of a couple of reprobates to the group as a whole. Imagine if we did that to other identifiable groups. Obviously, those policemen in Regina should be tried, and if found guity, jailed. Their actions do not tar other members of the force, in my opinion. The cameras are a great idea, and as they are for the police in England, would be for their protection. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 There's no proof this story really occurred, and we don't know all sides to the story. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
jacee Posted October 5, 2012 Author Report Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) It's funny, the Police are one of the few groups where it's perfectly okay to extrapolate the actions of a couple of reprobates to the group as a whole. Imagine if we did that to other identifiable groups. Obviously, those policemen in Regina should be tried, and if found guity, jailed. It won't get reported to police () nor to media, for fear of retribution by police. Their actions do not tar other members of the force, in my opinion. The code of silence tars them all. The cameras are a great idea, and as they are for the police in England, would be for their protection. Bring it. Edited October 5, 2012 by jacee Quote
eyeball Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 There's no proof this story really occurred, and we don't know all sides to the story. We would if cops wore cameras. Credibility and respect would be a lot harder to erode or question in the presence of deep transparency in the public's domain. The same rationale is the basis for my oft repeated call for souveillance at the highest levels of government. Concentrate honesty and decency at the highest level of our governance and watch decency and honesty trickle down through the rest. In what other direction could it possibly go? I suspect most of the fuel for the animosity and crap that the right and left bicker over would evaporate within weeks or a few months at most if we did this. It would rationalize enormous amounts of bandwidth devoted to 'he said she said'. Who knows how much of the media we could lay-off? How much speculative crap could they produce in the face of...reality? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) It's funny, the Police are one of the few groups where it's perfectly okay to extrapolate the actions of a couple of reprobates to the group as a whole. Funny ha ha or is there something else tickling your imagination? Imagine if we did that to other identifiable groups. It happens all the time. Obviously, those policemen in Regina should be tried, and if found guity, jailed. If these cops knew their actions were being recorded or that any gaps in that record (should they leave their cameras in their car while they beat someone for example) would be scrutinized, they likely wouldn't have committed the transgression. As a fisherman who is monitored for regulatory compliance, to protect your stake in the public resource I utilize, gaps in my data are my worst nightmare. Their actions do not tar other members of the force, in my opinion. They do in the opinions of hundreds of thousands if not millions of your fellow citizens. How much unnecessary gunk do you think this clogs up the public's discourse with? The cameras are a great idea, and as they are for the police in England, would be for their protection. I'm pretty sure this is the tickle your imagination is reacting to. Edited October 5, 2012 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
cybercoma Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 There is, without a doubt, a systemic problem with police in Saskatchewan (and BC actually) abusing Natives. Quote
sharkman Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) We would if cops wore cameras. Credibility and respect would be a lot harder to erode or question in the presence of deep transparency in the public's domain. The same rationale is the basis for my oft repeated call for souveillance at the highest levels of government. Concentrate honesty and decency at the highest level of our governance and watch decency and honesty trickle down through the rest. In what other direction could it possibly go? I suspect most of the fuel for the animosity and crap that the right and left bicker over would evaporate within weeks or a few months at most if we did this. It would rationalize enormous amounts of bandwidth devoted to 'he said she said'. Who knows how much of the media we could lay-off? How much speculative crap could they produce in the face of...reality? Yeah, I don't believe this happened either. Why did the cousin have to post it, why couldn't the victim's chief get involved over this if it really happened. He said that they have many police officers in their family. What? Really? Why aren't they then advocating for this cousin who got 'beat up'? It just doesn't quite pass the smell test. I'll tell you this as someone who lived in Regina temporarily last year. There is a major native problem there, drunks, vandalism, B&E's and horrific drug use. The Bands seem unable to give their people any hope, direction or anything besides money. I had to live in central Regina, which has a really high crime rate, and of course my car was vandalized too. The owner of the house where I stayed said he had to put locks on his fence gates in the back yard because they would just come in and take things. He has 2 little girls and was very concerned about them in their own yard. Why don't you try having native americans wearing cams too? There is a systemic problem in Saskatchewan with native americans abusing their communities. Edited October 5, 2012 by sharkman Quote
Guest Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 I'm pretty sure this is the tickle your imagination is reacting to. If you think police cameras are for anyone elses protection, I think you are the ticklish one. Quote
eyeball Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 Yeah, I don't believe this happened either. Why did the cousin have to post it, why couldn't the victim's chief get involved over this if it really happened. He said that they have many police officers in their family. What? Really? Why aren't they then advocating for this cousin who got 'beat up'? It just doesn't quite pass the smell test. I'll tell you this as someone who lived in Regina temporarily last year. There is a major native problem there, drunks, vandalism, B&E's and horrific drug use. The Bands seem unable to give their people any hope, direction or anything besides money. I had to live in central Regina, which has a really high crime rate, and of course my car was vandalized too. The owner of the house where I stayed said he had to put locks on his fence gates in the back yard because they would just come in and take things. He has 2 little girls and was very concerned about them in their own yard. Why don't you try having native americans wearing cams too? There is a systemic problem in Saskatchewan with native americans abusing their communities. There's nothing stopping anyone from protecting themselves with POV souveillance. I'd also encourage band members to monitor their own leaders and government to reduce corruption and nepotism if it's a contributing factor to hopelessness. I can certainly identify with that. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 If you think police cameras are for anyone elses protection, I think you are the ticklish one. I think everyone would benefit, police and the public. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
guyser Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 Sniff sniff..........not buying it. Couldnt ID them? Not even a partial name? No witness to getting into the car? Not doing a thing? Something doesnt smell right Quote
eyeball Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 Sniff sniff..........not buying it. Couldnt ID them? Not even a partial name? No witness to getting into the car? Not doing a thing? Something doesnt smell right It seems fishy alright. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
AngusThermopyle Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 Gotta agree. This sounds like a blueprint for the stuff you see posted in the Aboriginal Issues section of Rabble. Just way too vague and lacking in the credibility department for my taste. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
WWWTT Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 Imagine if we did that to other identifiable groups. Like natives,women,homosexuals,visible minorities and immigrants? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 (edited) Gotta agree. This sounds like a blueprint for the stuff you see posted in the Aboriginal Issues section of Rabble. Just way too vague and lacking in the credibility department for my taste. I guess that's how Picton was able to murder so many in BC! The natives reporting the missing women "lacked credibility" I believe the RCMP have since apologized for their lack of concern that helped lead to the death of many! WWWTT Edited October 6, 2012 by WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Melanie_ Posted October 6, 2012 Report Posted October 6, 2012 There is such a pervasive issue with racism in the Prairie provinces; just walk down the streets of Winnipeg, Brandon, Saskatoon, Regina, Edmonton or Calgary (or any smaller centre in between) and you are likely to hear racist comments directed towards First Nations people. Here's a to a clip of a video exporing issues of racism in Regina; the entire video is 1 hour in length, but really worth watching if you can find it. Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Guest Posted October 6, 2012 Report Posted October 6, 2012 Like natives,women,homosexuals,visible minorities and immigrants? WWWTT Yeah, exactly. Quote
WWWTT Posted October 6, 2012 Report Posted October 6, 2012 Yeah, exactly. ??? I guess you are new to sarcasm. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Guest Posted October 6, 2012 Report Posted October 6, 2012 ??? I guess you are new to sarcasm. WWWTT Not just me... Quote
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